Transformers Generations Selects Turtler and Gulf Shipping from Hasbro Pulse

I've had these for a while, and in the context of WFC figures, they don't feel as overpriced as I expected. Skalor is beefier than most deluxes, and has five accessories (sword, combiner hand, cannons, and transforming tail weapon). His paint job and articulation are great, though probably not on par with Siege figures. Snaptrap/Turtler feels like a leader-class WFC figure - voyager sized but loaded with accessories that can be used in different ways. You can make pretty cool little tank out of his rifle, shell, shoulder cannons, and combiner feet. The rifle and cannons are compatible with 5mm blast effects, too.

Hopefully BBTS gets theirs in soon.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hopefully BBTS gets theirs in soon.

Are they even still doing theirs? It's been a while, but as I recall, their preorders vanished from their listings, and they never even listed the last two. Please correct me if I'm wrong; I ordered via TFSource, so I don't remember.

To quickly weigh in on the exhaust vs. Slicer, I would prefer Slicer actually. I'd like an Action Master as a new Transformer design

Bounti76 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hopefully BBTS gets theirs in soon.

Are they even still doing theirs? It's been a while, but as I recall, their preorders vanished from their listings, and they never even listed the last two. Please correct me if I'm wrong; I ordered via TFSource, so I don't remember.

I was able to get pre-orders in for the first two and they're still listed in my account. Hopefully I haven't made a mistake.

Just got charged for the first 2 Seacons via Pulse. We will see how long it takes to make it here.

triKlops wrote:Just got charged for the first 2 Seacons via Pulse. We will see how long it takes to make it here.

I got charged on Wednesday, still not shipped yet.

If they get any in-stock I'll probably pick them up from Pulse.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hopefully BBTS gets theirs in soon.

Yeah that listing for the first 2 on BBTS was pulled in less than an hour. Probably when they realized they weren't going to be able to order directly. Either they may bite the bullet and make good ordering from pulse, then just forward to you, or probably just cancel the order and not charge you. That is the one good thign about BBTS is they do not charge until the item is actually in stock.

Has anyone else had this problem with their Select Seawing? I’ve noticed mine has come misassembled on his right leg, where the knee joint is put in backwards? This prevents him from bending his knee backwards in robot mode, but doesn’t affect his ability to transform into a stingray.

Anyone know a good way to get these pins out?

Backwards nothing: your Seawing/Kraken has two left upper legs including knees.

It's the end of the month, which means the new Transformers toys from Takara are out. that includes Generations Selects Tentakil and Overbite. Transformers fan Richard shared some images (to keep his privacy we will not link to his personal Facebook page) and you can see them below. He of course took the opportunity to finally combine them all to make King Poseidon / Piranacon.

So, are you getting yours? Or did you decide this combiner was just a bit too much money to your liking? Regardless of your choice, let us know how you feel about it now!

They all look pretty sharp. I haven't preordered them due to financial issues, but if it's feasible, I'm definitely gonna pick them up on the 2ndary market. For some reason, Piranacon looks skinnier than I remember him onscreen and the comic pages, but I guess he's accurate to the original toy, which was 1 of my favorites.

These are the only two I'm still waiting for.

Actually, the original Piranacon/King Poseidon is a bit on the chubby side:


It comes from his components having a lot more meat on their bones while still having to have the same robot mode and limb-mode heights as the other "Scramble City" type combiners, so they and the combination end up a bit squashed and chubby.
Abominus has the same issue but to a distinctly lesser degree.

If anyone can look at Tentakil in robot mode and NOT see a repaint as Scylla....

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, the original Piranacon/King Poseidon is a bit on the chubby side:


It comes from his components having a lot more meat on their bones while still having to have the same robot mode and limb-mode heights as the other "Scramble City" type combiners, so they and the combination end up a bit squashed and chubby.
Abominus has the same issue but to a distinctly lesser degree.

I always had Snaptrap's legs a bit closer together to make him taller. I never liked the squatting look on the original gestalts, but some of them couldn't be helped, their chest-crotch armor forced their legs to stay immobile.

Piranacon looks great! If the prices on the secondary market aren't too insane, I may end up trying to get him

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, the original Piranacon/King Poseidon is a bit on the chubby side:
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It comes from his components having a lot more meat on their bones while still having to have the same robot mode and limb-mode heights as the other "Scramble City" type combiners, so they and the combination end up a bit squashed and chubby.
Abominus has the same issue but to a distinctly lesser degree.

I always had Snaptrap's legs a bit closer together to make him taller. I never liked the squatting look on the original gestalts, but some of them couldn't be helped, their chest-crotch armor forced their legs to stay immobile.

That armor also made it look a lot less like squatting, at least on Superion, Menasor, and Bruticus. I can say that much with confidence, since RiD Ruination and G2 Superion have been fixtures of my shelves for a while now, and G1 Menasor was for a while as well.

Even without Snaptrap/Turtler's legs squatting, G1 Piranacon/King Poseidon's limb members end up looking chubby as limbs.

I'd love to get some measurements of the SELECTS Seacons' beast modes, so that I can try doing papercraft versions of said beast modes. If I can't manage it, I hope someone else does.

Can I get a reminder, how much were these on Hasbro Pulse or the other sites they were available on?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Can I get a reminder, how much were these on Hasbro Pulse or the other sites they were available on?

As I recall, most sites had Snap Trap/Turtler at $59.99. Pulse had the limbs at $34.99, and most other sites had them at $39.99. I think there may have been several cancellations, because I later saw them on various sites for a bigger markup than they'd originally been listed.

I just paid the remaining balance for the last two Seacons (I did a 10% deposit) so will be able to complete Piranacon within the week hopefully!

Does anyone here have the G1 AND Takara vintage toys? I’ve always wondered if there were any color changes between them. I’d love to see a comparison pic... and actually all four G1 variants counting the two reissues. Thanks if so!

Sabrblade wrote:These are the only two I'm still waiting for.

Same. Does anyone know if TFSource has shipped any out yet? Just curious because I ordered the first 4 from Asia directly, but ordered these last 2 from TFSource because they were available. Just wondering if they ship earlier than Hasbro Pulse, or on about the same schedule...or if they haven't shipped any yet, that would be a bit concerning.

Also I know the fun of these Seacons is you can configure them many different ways. I was a bit surprised however that Turtler's instructions didn't have an *official* suggested combination, they just show an image of how Gulf/Skalor can be an arm, leg, or weapon.

Ill have fun messing with these guys, but when he goes on display it will be in official King Poseidon formation.

IIRC the only difference between Piranacon and King Poseidon was that for:

Piranacon: Right Arm= Overbite & Weapon= Lobclaw/Nautilator
King Poseidon Right Arm= Lobclaw/Nautilator & Weapon= Overbite

I think thats right, but its been a long time since I've owned the original Piranacon...It will be nice when this selects King Poseidon is complete

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:These are the only two I'm still waiting for.

Same. Does anyone know if TFSource has shipped any out yet? Just curious because I ordered the first 4 from Asia directly, but ordered these last 2 from TFSource because they were available. Just wondering if they ship earlier than Hasbro Pulse, or on about the same schedule...or if they haven't shipped any yet, that would be a bit concerning.

Also I know the fun of these Seacons is you can configure them many different ways. I was a bit surprised however that Turtler's instructions didn't have an *official* suggested combination, they just show an image of how Gulf/Skalor can be an arm, leg, or weapon.

Ill have fun messing with these guys, but when he goes on display it will be in official King Poseidon formation.

IIRC the only difference between Piranacon and King Poseidon was that for:

Piranacon: Right Arm= Overbite & Weapon= Lobclaw/Nautilator
King Poseidon Right Arm= Lobclaw/Nautilator & Weapon= Overbite

I think thats right, but its been a long time since I've owned the original Piranacon...It will be nice when this selects King Poseidon is complete

TFSource has shipped out all of the figures except Overbite and Tentakil.

The colors on these figures are pretty nice too look at.

Tentakil I can see, because of his reuse of Moonracer's upper body minus the chest (makes an easy redeco into God Neptune's Scylla). You know, he could totally go for the charming bishonen trope as the US guy is described as rather charming in his Marvel bio.

o.supreme wrote:IIRC the only difference between Piranacon and King Poseidon was that for:

Piranacon: Right Arm= Overbite & Weapon= Lobclaw/Nautilator
King Poseidon Right Arm= Lobclaw/Nautilator & Weapon= Overbite

I think thats right, but its been a long time since I've owned the original Piranacon...It will be nice when this selects King Poseidon is complete

With all 6 members, King Poseidon and Piranacon have the same main configuration in the media they appeared in, as explained a few pages back:

Right Arm: Nautilator
Left Arm: Seawing
Right Leg: Skalor
Left Leg: Tantakil
Weapon: Overbite

The US instructions however give two more; one with, and one without Nautilator. It's all a few pages back.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With all 6 members, King Poseidon and Piranacon have the same main configuration in the media they appeared in, as explained a few pages back:

Right Arm: Nautilator
Left Arm: Seawing
Right Leg: Skalor
Left Leg: Tantakil
Weapon: Overbite

The US instructions however give two more; one with, and one without Nautilator. It's all a few pages back.

That makes sense, even aesthetically, as Nautilator and Seawing are both majority grey, black, and teal, and Skalor and Tentakil are both majority pink, magenta and blue. Overbite is the only one to have purple as his main color.

Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator because including him would have meant a bigger box just for the Seacons. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.

Bounti76 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.

I edited the post to clarify what I meant.

Makes one wonder why Hasbro made five limbs in the first place.

It's not like any of their Targetmaster modes were all that impressive.

Probably for the sake of mixing things up, trying something new with a combiner.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.

I edited the post to clarify what I meant.

Gotcha. I get what you mean now. I guess I never really thought about the size of the gifset boxes- the only complete combiner I had as a kid was Computron, and got all his components individually. All the team set boxes were the same size, then?

I think all six could have been offered in the Piranacon box set, in the original series box sizes were not that standard. I really can't think of a logical reason why Nautilator was left out of the box set. But all that aside, I'm glad the selects versions exist, and will soon be complete.

o.supreme wrote:I think all six could have been offered in the Piranacon box set, in the original series box sizes were not that standard. I really can't think of a logical reason why Nautilator was left out of the box set. But all that aside, I'm glad the selects versions exist, and will soon be complete.

Did the giftsets have a set pricepoint? If so, then perhaps a sixth figure would have upped the price of the Piranacon giftset in enough of a difference that might have made retailers not want to have to make a separate spot on the shelf for one uniquely priced giftset of the same box size as the others that had come before it, and thus Hasbro left Nautilator out to keep the set's price the same.

My question might be a bit out of subject, but I'll ask it here anyway.

Anybody knows if there are plans for an upgrade kit(s) likes the hands and feet from Perfect Effect or Dreamwave for King Poseidon?

Daganisoraan wrote:My question might be a bit out of subject, but I'll ask it here anyway.

Anybody knows if there are plans for an upgrade kit(s) likes the hands and feet from Perfect Effect or Dreamwave for King Poseidon?

I doubt they would bother, the hands and feet are very different from CW and POTP, similar to Computron I'd say

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Did the giftsets have a set pricepoint? If so, then perhaps a sixth figure would have upped the price of the Piranacon giftset in enough of a difference that might have made retailers not want to have to make a separate spot on the shelf for one uniquely priced giftset of the same box size as the others that had come before it, and thus Hasbro left Nautilator out to keep the set's price the same.

That is a good point. Not sure because the only giftset I clearly remember seeing in store was Superion, which was $40 ( would be the same if you bought Silverbolt $20 , and each smaller bot $5) separately. I know some people who got Devastator, but never saw it myself, though the individual bots were everywhere. Same for the Stunticons, Protectabots, Technobots etc.... Individual components easy to find, never saw the box sets.

Which is another reason I am glad for the Unite Warrior sets. I never understood why Hasbro US didn't do giftsets for Bruticus and Abominus. Predaking perhaps may have been a price issue as you stated, but no real reason for the others.

I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

Bounti76 wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

Vic Zanzibar wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

None

william-james88 wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

None

I wouldn't say none entirely, they did tease the possibility at the end of the final Seacons comic showing the BWII Seacons in the Selects bodies along with a preview of Galvatron getting upgraded. It wouldn't be unreasonable to believe the next round of Takara Tomy Selects will be God Neptune and Super Megatron.

Anyway, didn't see this mentioned, but Pulse started shipping the first wave of Seacons Saturday. Mine say they're coming Wednesday which is a little surprising since I've gotten these shipping notices the same day they arrived before. The effect of COVID-19 on shipping I guess.

Emerje

That Tentakil looks so good, that is the one I am most excited for.

Also really hoping for a God Neptune from this. My BWII Galvatron demands their presence

Well Pulse has the first two Seacons in stock so I cancelled my pre-orders on BBTS. Glad to have them coming.

Love it, best combiner to date.

I look forward to the photos of him battling Legends Super and God Ginrai

Bounti76 wrote:If anyone can look at Tentakil in robot mode and NOT see a repaint as Scylla....

Seeming Scylla is a repaint of Tentakill....... probably not