Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview

Transformers News: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview

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Good day, fellow Seibertronians! The fourth issue of the current Transformers Ongoing is scheduled to appear on your store shelves this week, despite the late release of last issue, and IDW Manager and Senior Editor Tom Waltz has seen fit to offer us a sampling of IDW's next issue via his twitter. The image features Chromia in her alternate mode, Orion Pax gazing into the night, Megatron and Soundwave leering, and a sulking Bumblebee. Take a look below, and tell us what you think in the forums below. Be sure to stay tuned this week to Seibertron.com for more Transformers news and reviews!

Transformers News: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview
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Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019544)
Posted by ScottyP on April 22nd, 2019 @ 9:23am CDT
Burn wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Much like Visionaries #1, I feel this only sold out because of the death on the last page

Or they just didn't print enough copies.
Yeah second printings are great PR and usually a sign that there have been enough reorders to justify another run. It's also easy to print ten copies and declare a triumphant sellout at the distributor level.

The most recent second printings: TF vs Visionaries 1 after about 6,000 copies of the first printing were sold to shops, Unicron 1 over double that and Unicron 2 up over 9,000 - though please be sure to read the disclaimer on those links' destination as these are limited estimate numbers, best anyone can do though. The point is that we don't know yet if this indicates a roaring success or a small run.

My guess is that issue 1 probably did sell a ton (by TF comic standards) but the attrition rate is going to be painful to witness when we get beyond issue 3, assuming 4 continues the same pacing.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019545)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 22nd, 2019 @ 9:27am CDT
Marvel (and DC) relaunch constantly because slapping "#1" on the cover is an effective marketing tool to lure in the new reader.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019616)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 22nd, 2019 @ 6:14pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Burn wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Much like Visionaries #1, I feel this only sold out because of the death on the last page

Or they just didn't print enough copies.
Yeah second printings are great PR and usually a sign that there have been enough reorders to justify another run. It's also easy to print ten copies and declare a triumphant sellout at the distributor level.

The most recent second printings: TF vs Visionaries 1 after about 6,000 copies of the first printing were sold to shops, Unicron 1 over double that and Unicron 2 up over 9,000 - though please be sure to read the disclaimer on those links' destination as these are limited estimate numbers, best anyone can do though. The point is that we don't know yet if this indicates a roaring success or a small run.

My guess is that issue 1 probably did sell a ton (by TF comic standards) but the attrition rate is going to be painful to witness when we get beyond issue 3, assuming 4 continues the same pacing.

I really think Issue 4 is going to be the make or break. 2 and 3 went slow, and if you have a 3rd issue in a row where things don't grab attention, then that to me is strike 3 and a lot check out.

Which is sad, I hate watching something fall flat and disappoint.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019786)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2019 @ 9:03am CDT
We have some fun Transformers comic news for you today.Firstly, Scotty P found that the third John Gallagher exclusive is up for preorder at Mutant Beaver Comics. It is not cheap and will cost Americans more due to it being Canada exclusive with rather pricey shipping options all around (for Canadians too). But that's run of the mill for the niche exclusives comics market. You can see the image below featuring Jetfire.

We also have a bigger preview for issue 4, thanks to Itunes, to go with the out of order page we got earlier (which we included again). It features fan favourite Cyclonus which looks exactly like the Combiner Wars toy, undercarriage and all.

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Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019797)
Posted by Seibertron on April 24th, 2019 @ 12:31pm CDT
Just realized one of the things that really bugs me about this series ... the characters seem like they're drawn just fine, but the many panels with open backgrounds with little on the horizon and nothing but sky really irk me. Where are Cybertron's buildings? Where are all of the unique towers and city scenes that should cover most of Cybertron such as in the G1 cartoon or Beast Machines or Transformers Animated or the Bumblebee movie? It looks boring (and artistically lazy) that there is very little going on in the background.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019800)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on April 24th, 2019 @ 1:04pm CDT
Even less hope for a new Cyclonus mold to match the TR Targetmasters... :(
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019802)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2019 @ 1:18pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Just realized one of the things that really bugs me about this series ... the characters seem like they're drawn just fine, but the many panels with open backgrounds with little on the horizon and nothing but sky really irk me.

Me too. Not sure if I mentioned it before or not, but it really feels like the bots and the background dont exist in the same space. Cybertron feels very empty.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019804)
Posted by o.supreme on April 24th, 2019 @ 1:34pm CDT
I guess yay for Cyclonus finally looking the way he should, but boo because it only took 4 issues to shoehorn in Windblade (and yes I'm aware she was planned from the outset in this new series..) I mean I get why Hasbro forced IDW to push her into so much story previously, but this is a NEW continuity. The fact that Hasbro seems intent on retconning the original TF history to include Windblade is frustrating. Might as well draw her in the background of reprinted Marvel Comics, or insert her randomly into original series episodes Lucas *special edition* style...
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019805)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2019 @ 2:03pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I guess yay for Cyclonus finally looking the way he should, but boo because it only took 4 issues to shoehorn in Windblade


She is in issue 1.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019807)
Posted by Seibertron on April 24th, 2019 @ 2:38pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Just realized one of the things that really bugs me about this series ... the characters seem like they're drawn just fine, but the many panels with open backgrounds with little on the horizon and nothing but sky really irk me.

Me too. Not sure if I mentioned it before or not, but it really feels like the bots and the background dont exist in the same space. Cybertron feels very empty.


Yes! Exactly. I dont have any real complaints about how the Transformers are drawn in this series. They look good,maybe a little more styling would be good, and maybe a little more detail such as mouths when they are drawn from a distance, but the lack of backgrounds and minimal characters makes the planet seem empty.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019808)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on April 24th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CDT
Man you can really see those glaring toy designs when Chromia is shown next to Geomotus and Windblade. It’s like there’s 3 styles happening on the page all at one. They really just took those designs ultra-literally without any degree of stylization. The last time we saw over-literal designs was Energon/Cybertron and look how those turned out
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019811)
Posted by Randomhero on April 24th, 2019 @ 2:57pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I guess yay for Cyclonus finally looking the way he should, but boo because it only took 4 issues to shoehorn in Windblade (and yes I'm aware she was planned from the outset in this new series..) I mean I get why Hasbro forced IDW to push her into so much story previously, but this is a NEW continuity. The fact that Hasbro seems intent on retconning the original TF history to include Windblade is frustrating. Might as well draw her in the background of reprinted Marvel Comics, or insert her randomly into original series episodes Lucas *special edition* style...


She’s in issue one...
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019812)
Posted by o.supreme on April 24th, 2019 @ 3:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I guess yay for Cyclonus finally looking the way he should, but boo because it only took 4 issues to shoehorn in Windblade


She is in issue 1.


Randomhero wrote:She’s in issue one...



That only makes it worse...
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019814)
Posted by Randomhero on April 24th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I guess yay for Cyclonus finally looking the way he should, but boo because it only took 4 issues to shoehorn in Windblade


She is in issue 1.



That only makes it worse...



No it just makes your argument worse since it starts with your rant about taking 4 before “shoehorning” her in. She’s been in it from the start. Here’s the thing about Windblade. She debuted in 2013. Six years ago, the better half of a decade. She is now older than the length of the the original G1 cartoons and toyline. Windblade now has history in transformers and the complaints about her really matter anymore.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019816)
Posted by o.supreme on April 24th, 2019 @ 3:37pm CDT
Randomhero wrote: No it just makes your argument worse since it starts with your rant about taking 4 before “shoehorning” her in. She’s been in it from the start. Here’s the thing about Windblade. She debuted in 2013. Six years ago, the better half of a decade. She is now older than the length of the the original G1 cartoons and toyline. Windblade now has history in transformers and the complaints about her really matter anymore.


She debuted in the OLD IDW Universe, which is thankfully dead and gone, and should stay that way. If IDW wanted to try to bring Transformers back to it's roots, which was the whole point of the reboot, (in which Windblade was never present), then it has automatically failed. Also its amazing that in six years she did nothing of significance to contribute to the overall TF mythos. You don't see Drift, or the Torchbearers, or Sunstorm in this new IDW universe, for good reason. The same should be with Windblade, just my opinion I know it's not popular, but it's just frustrating that every new comic incarnation and animated series has less and less of what has made Transformers great in times past.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019817)
Posted by Randomhero on April 24th, 2019 @ 3:50pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote: No it just makes your argument worse since it starts with your rant about taking 4 before “shoehorning” her in. She’s been in it from the start. Here’s the thing about Windblade. She debuted in 2013. Six years ago, the better half of a decade. She is now older than the length of the the original G1 cartoons and toyline. Windblade now has history in transformers and the complaints about her really matter anymore.


She debuted in the OLD IDW Universe, which is thankfully dead and gone, and should stay that way. If IDW wanted to try to bring Transformers back to it's roots, which was the whole point of the reboot, (in which Windblade was never present), then it has automatically failed. Also its amazing that in six years she did nothing of significance to contribute to the overall TF mythos. You don't see Drift, or the Torchbearers, or Sunstorm in this new IDW universe, for good reason. The same should be with Windblade, just my opinion I know it's not popular, but it's just frustrating that every new comic incarnation and animated series has less and less of what has made Transformers great in times past.


She debuted as a toy fan made by fans and was put in the comics because of that reason. IDW didn’t create her, hasbro and fans did.

You’ve also seen less than a dozen characters appear yet. I’m sorry this isn’t the G1 cartoon you hold so high up where every autobot showed up at once and stood shoulder to shoulder while their names were called and they transformed into their alt mode so you knew which toy you wanted because that’s what that was. A commercial to sell a toy.


There are three issues out. This universe is brand new and we’ve seen other characters from IDWs lore pop up already. There’s plenty of time to introduce other characters. You can’t say “these characters haven’t shown up!” Were on issue three currently.

And I’m pretty sure IDW characters have impacted other media ya know. Winblade has been in cartoons and drift was in 2 movies and showed up in the fist season of Cyberverse.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019819)
Posted by Nexus Knight on April 24th, 2019 @ 4:54pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:She debuted in the OLD IDW Universe, which is thankfully dead and gone, and should stay that way. If IDW wanted to try to bring Transformers back to it's roots, which was the whole point of the reboot, (in which Windblade was never present), then it has automatically failed.

Wait, what? When, where, who said that? As far as I can tell, the reboot was done to let the old IDWverse end and let new stories be told. Back to its roots? What on Earth does that even mean? It's roots were a cartoon that was basically a twenty minute toy ad (with some okay stories). If that's the case, then it's... sorta failed? I mean, 5hese characters are in toy based bodies, so...

o.supreme wrote:Also its amazing that in six years she did nothing of significance to contribute to the overall TF mythos. You don't see Drift, or the Torchbearers, or Sunstorm in this new IDW universe, for good reason. The same should be with Windblade, just my opinion I know it's not popular,

Um, but it is only THREE ISSUES in. There is plenty of time to introduce these characters. But, if you're meaning from the outset... so what? Windblade is a character more modern reader can identify with, some having had a hand in polls that created her. It's a familiar face newer fans will recognize. And, yeah, she has contributed (IMO) greatly to the mythos. From a marketing standpoint, she is the first character created by the fans, being the starting point for fans having a more direct role in their franchise. Also (this may get me in trouble), Windblade seemed to be the starting point for more diverse cast to begin being introduced. We now have higher focus on on having female Transformers in the mythos, which adds diversity. If TF stayed "with its roots", it would get stale very quick.

o.supreme wrote:but it's just frustrating that every new comic incarnation and animated series has less and less of what has made Transformers great in times past.

Once again, you're referring to the original stuff? The cartoon? A show for kids that was (once again) a huge commercial to sell toys? That is what made Transformers great? How?
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019821)
Posted by ricemazter on April 24th, 2019 @ 5:08pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Just realized one of the things that really bugs me about this series ... the characters seem like they're drawn just fine, but the many panels with open backgrounds with little on the horizon and nothing but sky really irk me.

Me too. Not sure if I mentioned it before or not, but it really feels like the bots and the background dont exist in the same space. Cybertron feels very empty.


Yes! Exactly. I dont have any real complaints about how the Transformers are drawn in this series. They look good,maybe a little more styling would be good, and maybe a little more detail such as mouths when they are drawn from a distance, but the lack of backgrounds and minimal characters makes the planet seem empty.


I could be wrong since I'm not in any way involved in this comic's creation, but I have to imagine that the truncated production schedule of the book as opposed to a monthly basis might have something to do with it.

I think about the first issue, which had some pretty good vistas, and then quality slowly starts to slide. I imagine the artists are putting a ton of work into this, but they're operating in like half the time a normal book would have.

I'm just an amateur artist that works on projects with friends, and it takes me forever to complete a crummy drawing set. It would be great if someone with actual comics publishing experience could give some insight.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019855)
Posted by Superginraix on April 25th, 2019 @ 11:34am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote: No it just makes your argument worse since it starts with your rant about taking 4 before “shoehorning” her in. She’s been in it from the start. Here’s the thing about Windblade. She debuted in 2013. Six years ago, the better half of a decade. She is now older than the length of the the original G1 cartoons and toyline. Windblade now has history in transformers and the complaints about her really matter anymore.


She debuted in the OLD IDW Universe, which is thankfully dead and gone, and should stay that way. If IDW wanted to try to bring Transformers back to it's roots, which was the whole point of the reboot, (in which Windblade was never present), then it has automatically failed. Also its amazing that in six years she did nothing of significance to contribute to the overall TF mythos. You don't see Drift, or the Torchbearers, or Sunstorm in this new IDW universe, for good reason. The same should be with Windblade, just my opinion I know it's not popular, but it's just frustrating that every new comic incarnation and animated series has less and less of what has made Transformers great in times past.

Robots that turn into vehicles and fight each other?

Because that's the basic premise. Two factions of robots that can change their shape and fight each other. And even THEN, I'd argue that what made the original comics and cartoon great wasn't the actual fighting but the deeper stories they sometimes got away with telling during all the robot fighting.

The great thing about a good franchise is that it is adaptable and different fans can get different things out of it so I'm not seriously guessing you like the franchise because of the robot fights. I'm guessing you like it for a specific cast of characters? If so, this is really your golden age because Siege is filled to the brim with new version of Generation One classics. And since that's the case, you shouldn't be too bothered if one or two non-G1 characters show up. After all, even the original comic and cartoon featured non-toy creations... and new characters were introduced all the time there as well. Yes, to sell toys.

If I'm completely wrong, I apologize. I hope you find what you're looking for in one of the many Transformers storylines/ toy lines. For me... I might like them too much... and my wallet pays the ultimate price.
Re: Transformers Issue #4 One-Page Textless Preview (2019860)
Posted by o.supreme on April 25th, 2019 @ 4:07pm CDT
I find it interesting how those that minimize the original series to *just a toy commercial* completely gloss over the fact, that if not for it, we wouldn't be here 35 years later discussing it.... :roll: that's gratitude for ya...

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