Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed

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Thanks to Seibertronian o.supreme, we have news that the 4th of 6 MPG Trainbots has been officially revealed and is up for preorder.

The fourth figure in this MGP line is Suiken, who forms the left arm (and part of the foot) for Raiden. Suiken transforms into a Tokai-type 153 Express locomotive in a green and orange color scheme, a striking scheme compared to the 3 Trainbots revealed so far. Suiken stands about on par with the other Trainbots in terms of size, as seen in a comparison picture with Getsuei.

Suiken appears to have the left robot mode fist built into his design, an integration tactic seen on the Fall of Cybertron era combiners. A majority of his train mode forms the left arm to Raiden, while a portion breaks off and transforms into the foot wing kibble. He comes with his scaled blaster, the larger Raiden blaster, 2 pieces of train tracks, and a piece for his stand.

Suiken is listed on Amazon Japan for ¥17,705, or at the current exchange rate approximately $122.00 USD. His preorder is live, and we anticipate other stores will begin listing him before too long.

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think of the next Trainbot in the comments down below!

Credit(s): Amazon Japan

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146608)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 6th, 2022 @ 2:24pm CDT

Best looking team member so far to me. I love this

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146610)
Posted by Brokebot on October 6th, 2022 @ 2:54pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Best looking team member so far to me. I love this

This long, drawn-out release schedule is killing me, though.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146611)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 6th, 2022 @ 3:01pm CDT

I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146620)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 6th, 2022 @ 4:16pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146622)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 6th, 2022 @ 4:21pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Well, the sword hasn't been released yet, may not come untill the final train it, but we have a spot for it when it does

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146623)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 6th, 2022 @ 4:24pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Well, the sword hasn't been released yet, may not come untill the final train it, but we have a spot for it when it does

But... Raiden nor any of his components have ever had a sword?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146625)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 6th, 2022 @ 4:32pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Well, the sword hasn't been released yet, may not come untill the final train it, but we have a spot for it when it does

But... Raiden nor any of his components have ever had a sword?

Been forever since I've seen headmasters so I can't remember if he had one there or not, but I couldn't find any images. Either way, the train track have a big sword shaped storage spot under them. Thepeg holes are even contoured to match the shape. Maybe Takara decided he needed one

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146630)
Posted by o.supreme on October 6th, 2022 @ 5:21pm CDT

I've seen 3 Getsuei reviews online (one of them TT official Transformation video), and none of them mentions this... I never even looked under the track pieces :oops:

, except to notice the gauges were different, so these wont all be able to go along the track together when completed.

Here's another one... Is the term "Hand-Held Bazooka" by definition incorrect?

Every one I've ever seen requires you to rest it on your shoulder.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146632)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 6th, 2022 @ 5:30pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Well, the sword hasn't been released yet, may not come untill the final train it, but we have a spot for it when it does

But... Raiden nor any of his components have ever had a sword?

Been forever since I've seen headmasters so I can't remember if he had one there or not, but I couldn't find any images. Either way, the train track have a big sword shaped storage spot under them. Thepeg holes are even contoured to match the shape. Maybe Takara decided he needed one

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146634)
Posted by o.supreme on October 6th, 2022 @ 5:34pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:

ok then some 3P company needs to make Lightsabers for all the combiners so we can reenact this scene:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146637)
Posted by Tigerhawk7109 on October 6th, 2022 @ 7:11pm CDT

Normally Suiken is my favorite of the Trainbots. But I just cannot get over how much of a mess that robot mode is. I'll stick with the Moon Studios version, thanks.

:BH-PREDACON:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146638)
Posted by Brokebot on October 6th, 2022 @ 7:18pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:I've been all in on these so far, but not for the combined mode, which is kinda sad. but I like trains, and I like the looks of the robots. also, just noticed that Getsuei's tracks when put together in the right order has a storage slot for the combiner sword. I'm sure people already knew this, but I think it's neat

Sword?

Well, the sword hasn't been released yet, may not come untill the final train it, but we have a spot for it when it does

SON.
OF.
A.
BIOTCH.

I did not see that.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146642)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 6th, 2022 @ 8:29pm CDT

Wow, I don't think anyone else has noticed this.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146647)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 6th, 2022 @ 9:53pm CDT

Lol well dang, I figured I was late to the discussion on it. Glad To make the discovery then.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146650)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 6th, 2022 @ 10:16pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wow, I don't think anyone else has noticed this.

I first heard about it on Discord.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146657)
Posted by Brokebot on October 7th, 2022 @ 6:34am CDT

Ok, smarter people than me, I'm curious about this one: the instructions show a piece to turn the tracks into stands (I guess so you can pose them in ways that need help to balance.) There's even a clear plastic piece for this prop-rod to plug into. But there's no prop rod included in the boxes.

What's the deal?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146658)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 7th, 2022 @ 7:02am CDT

Brokebot wrote:Ok, smarter people than me, I'm curious about this one: the instructions show a piece to turn the tracks into stands (I guess so you can pose them in ways that need help to balance.) There's even a clear plastic piece for this prop-rod to plug into. But there's no prop rod included in the boxes.

What's the deal?

I believe some previous MP's came with a stand that can work for these using the extra piece they provided. You would need the stand from another MP however.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146659)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 7th, 2022 @ 7:08am CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:Ok, smarter people than me, I'm curious about this one: the instructions show a piece to turn the tracks into stands (I guess so you can pose them in ways that need help to balance.) There's even a clear plastic piece for this prop-rod to plug into. But there's no prop rod included in the boxes.

What's the deal?

I believe some previous MP's came with a stand that can work for these using the extra piece they provided. You would need the stand from another MP however.

Specifically, I think the necessary component came with MP Dinobot, and maybe 1 or a couple other MP Beast Wars figures

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146666)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 7th, 2022 @ 7:25am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:Ok, smarter people than me, I'm curious about this one: the instructions show a piece to turn the tracks into stands (I guess so you can pose them in ways that need help to balance.) There's even a clear plastic piece for this prop-rod to plug into. But there's no prop rod included in the boxes.

What's the deal?

I believe some previous MP's came with a stand that can work for these using the extra piece they provided. You would need the stand from another MP however.

Specifically, I think the necessary component came with MP Dinobot, and maybe 1 or a couple other MP Beast Wars figures

also mp blackarachnia, v3 Starscream. technically, you can use the stock part of v2 megatron, but it won't plug into the tracks. seriously, I know others have said this, but jeeze has/tak/tomy rip that damn bandaid off and just start selling the display stands. stop letting bandai one-up you on this.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146668)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 7th, 2022 @ 7:28am CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:Ok, smarter people than me, I'm curious about this one: the instructions show a piece to turn the tracks into stands (I guess so you can pose them in ways that need help to balance.) There's even a clear plastic piece for this prop-rod to plug into. But there's no prop rod included in the boxes.

What's the deal?

I believe some previous MP's came with a stand that can work for these using the extra piece they provided. You would need the stand from another MP however.

Specifically, I think the necessary component came with MP Dinobot, and maybe 1 or a couple other MP Beast Wars figures

also mp blackarachnia, v3 Starscream. technically, you can use the stock part of v2 megatron, but it won't plug into the tracks. seriously, I know others have said this, but jeeze has/tak/tomy rip that damn bandaid off and just start selling the display stands. stop letting bandai one-up you on this.

I will not argue that, that is for sure

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146673)
Posted by o.supreme on October 7th, 2022 @ 10:00am CDT

Yeah, it's basically a situation of "Stand Sold Separately". That may be indicated in Japanese somewhere in the instructions, but of course most of us don't understand the language, but I figured early on from other toy reviewers.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2146692)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 7th, 2022 @ 6:06pm CDT

I'm throwing this out here, if you need MPG 02 Getsuei I'm selling my broken one for $75 shipped. It still works and can transform to all three modes but, as seen in my review, the ring around one of the posts broke off so the panel has to be parts formed for all three modes.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2149067)
Posted by o.supreme on November 11th, 2022 @ 11:25am CST

Oof...

. The Yen has come on strong against the US Dollar the last week or so. Seeing my financial advantage of ordering from Amazon Japan melt away isn't fun, but I always knew there was a risk when I first ordered. My pre orders are still about 10 dollars cheaper on average after it's all said and done than Any domestic pre order, plus these things are always cyclical. The next MPG dosen't ship for another 4 months anyway.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2149091)
Posted by Emerje on November 11th, 2022 @ 7:01pm CST

o.supreme wrote:Oof... . The Yen has come on strong against the US Dollar the last week or so. Seeing my financial advantage of ordering from Amazon Japan melt away isn't fun, but I always knew there was a risk when I first ordered. My pre orders are still about 10 dollars cheaper on average after it's all said and done than Any domestic pre order, plus these things are always cyclical. The next MPG dosen't ship for another 4 months anyway.

Probably because of the election, they often have affects on exchange rates, especially when they drag on like this one is. It'll likely creep back down next month if not sooner.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2149124)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 12th, 2022 @ 2:21pm CST

You know it would have been awesome had :HASBRO:

done what they did to Jetfire/Skyfire in reverse. They first gave us thie Commander Class then after the MP version, so the dream of combiner class Raiden not a MP well.... :roll:

.

Anyway I've decided to hold on any of the current figures til "All Are One" :-P

and released with a reivew to see what flaws may be involved AND it's worth the :ic$:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2152367)
Posted by o.supreme on December 24th, 2022 @ 10:59am CST

Well, looks like we get some photos from a booklet with the upcoming MPG-03

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8195816820

AS the economy continues to tank, and my Amazon.jp pre-orders are basically even now with Hasbro and 3P retailer pre-orders, I guess the advantage is that those who ordered from Amazon will supposedly get theirs earlier.

Pre-orders for MPG 05 and 06 will be coming sometime in January (I'm guessing late January), also glad my initial prediction of trying to get this all done by the end of 2023 was accurate. It will be nice to have both a completed Raiden and Haslab Deathsaurus by end of 2023.

Also in terms of proportions, while I dont think the combined mode for Raiden looks terrible, the lower torso is what makes all the difference between him and say...CW/UW Devastator. All the other parts (legs, arms, upper torso) aren't that different. But whereas Lang Haul is the BIGGEST member of CW/UW Dev and makes up a good portion of his body, Kaen seemingly makes up the smallest part, with parts forming for other portions, and a LOT being left on the back. Too bad a little more couldn't have been adjusted to increase the lower abs proper to make him closer to CW/UW Devastator height, but oh well.

He will just be that oddball. Slightly taller than CW/UW/PotP combiners, but not as tall as Titan Dev or Predaking.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2152646)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 30th, 2022 @ 10:24am CST

I really need to see more of what they are doing with Kaen, the lower torso/thighs just seems so odd, I can't really get a good grasp of the design and why they made the choices they did yet.

I like him, he looks good, just ready to see the full picture now.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153531)
Posted by o.supreme on January 11th, 2023 @ 7:37pm CST

MPG-05 Pre-Order on Amazon Japan...

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0B ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153551)
Posted by Emerje on January 12th, 2023 @ 2:08am CST

o.supreme wrote:MPG-05 Pre-Order on Amazon Japan...

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0B ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&

I saw that as well, from Takara Tomy Mall. The end is in sight.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153567)
Posted by Emerje on January 12th, 2023 @ 8:26am CST

It's been a long ride, but the end is starting to come into sight. Takara Tomy has finally revealed Masterpiece G MPG-05 Seizan, Raiden's right arm man. Thanks to listing on both Takara Tomy Mall and Amazon Japan and Seibertronian o.supreme in the forums we get our first clear look at the beige train and all his features including two Raiden Cannons, a Brain Laser gun and Raiden's giant Light Sword as well as more tracks. The Japanese tax inclusive price is 22,000JPY while the current Amazon Japan price that many of us will be using is currently at 21,997JPY (about US $169), but that will definitely drop in the coming days. Seizan is expected to ship in September, then we'll only have MPG-06 Kaen left.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153568)
Posted by TulioDude on January 12th, 2023 @ 9:00am CST

He looks neat! I wonder how the backpack affects his balance.

Day 1108 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153581)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 12th, 2023 @ 11:27am CST

I've enjoyed these so far. they definitely harken back to older mp releases as far as style and fun factor. but there's no denying that sacrifices were made of course for the combining, but also for the sake of the vehicle mode. makes sense when you consider Japanese love of trains. I think the biggest sacrifice though is the combined mode. I have little faith in it tbh. besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off. but we will see when Kaen gets revealed.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153598)
Posted by angtre on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:55pm CST

I've always had a soft spot for Trainbots. I'd really wish they use the second Diaclone colour scheme for a second run of the molds.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153608)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on January 12th, 2023 @ 4:06pm CST

Another awesome reveal! I hope this spurs more JG1 Masterpiece releases. Though, would it be in the realm of impossibility to hope for a Generations Trainbot combiner? I’m too many MP purchases behind to even consider getting all 5 of these guys.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153610)
Posted by o.supreme on January 12th, 2023 @ 4:31pm CST

The main reason why I'm getting these MP is because I don't see a standard Generations version happening any time soon unfortunately.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153614)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2023 @ 5:44pm CST

Yeah, one of the main reasons that this set is even happening at all as Masterpieces instead of as normal figures is because of the MP budget allowing for Takara to try appealing to the Japanese model train demographic, with each of these being not only super realistic in vehicle mode but also being scaled to a real-world model train scale.

This attempt to attract that audience in addition to the Transformers fandom seems like a sign that Takara does not have enough faith in the Trainbots being popular enough to sell well on their own as normal Generations-styled figures, what with their very real sense of obscurity, even in their own country of Japan.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153644)
Posted by Brokebot on January 13th, 2023 @ 6:28am CST

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, one of the main reasons that this set is even happening at all as Masterpieces instead of as normal figures is because of the MP budget allowing for Takara to try appealing to the Japanese model train demographic, with each of these being not only super realistic in vehicle mode but also being scaled to a real-world model train scale.

The only problem is that although they are on the same scale, they aren't on the same gauge track. MPG-02 Getsuei rides on narrower tracks than MPG-01 Shouki. Not being a train model aficionado myself, I'm not sure if that's because they are two different types of trains and that's just the way they are, or it that was a concession of engineering the internal robot. Either way, I think it would have been a nice feature to be able to link them together as a single train so that they could ride the same track, but that's by no means a deal breaker.

Anyhoo, the last 4 of these bad boys are the only things on my must-have list. The fact I'm going to be waiting until next Christmas for the last one is killing me. :BOOM:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153647)
Posted by DeathReviews on January 13th, 2023 @ 8:05am CST

"And I see your schwartz is as BIG as mine!"

I'm glad I had no kind of G1 attachment to this set, otherwise I might be tempted. As it stands, I have the ability to look at them objectively and decide that an all-train gestalt isn't really my bag.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153648)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 13th, 2023 @ 9:52am CST

Brokebot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, one of the main reasons that this set is even happening at all as Masterpieces instead of as normal figures is because of the MP budget allowing for Takara to try appealing to the Japanese model train demographic, with each of these being not only super realistic in vehicle mode but also being scaled to a real-world model train scale.

The only problem is that although they are on the same scale, they aren't on the same gauge track. MPG-02 Getsuei rides on narrower tracks than MPG-01 Shouki. Not being a train model aficionado myself, I'm not sure if that's because they are two different types of trains and that's just the way they are, or it that was a concession of engineering the internal robot. Either way, I think it would have been a nice feature to be able to link them together as a single train so that they could ride the same track, but that's by no means a deal breaker.

Anyhoo, the last 4 of these bad boys are the only things on my must-have list. The fact I'm going to be waiting until next Christmas for the last one is killing me.

If I understand correctly, real trains in Japan have 2 different track widths and this is relfected in the individual trains having the appropriate width at that scale for the tracks the were used on. Takara is being super accurate to the train modes.

Unfortunately that prevents you from being able to line all six up front to back and roll them on the same set of tracks. Still works fine on a floor or tabletop though, so I'm not too bummed by it.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153650)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 13th, 2023 @ 10:14am CST

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, one of the main reasons that this set is even happening at all as Masterpieces instead of as normal figures is because of the MP budget allowing for Takara to try appealing to the Japanese model train demographic, with each of these being not only super realistic in vehicle mode but also being scaled to a real-world model train scale.

The only problem is that although they are on the same scale, they aren't on the same gauge track. MPG-02 Getsuei rides on narrower tracks than MPG-01 Shouki. Not being a train model aficionado myself, I'm not sure if that's because they are two different types of trains and that's just the way they are, or it that was a concession of engineering the internal robot. Either way, I think it would have been a nice feature to be able to link them together as a single train so that they could ride the same track, but that's by no means a deal breaker.

Anyhoo, the last 4 of these bad boys are the only things on my must-have list. The fact I'm going to be waiting until next Christmas for the last one is killing me.

If I understand correctly, real trains in Japan have 2 different track widths and this is relfected in the individual trains having the appropriate width at that scale for the tracks the were used on. Takara is being super accurate to the train modes.

Unfortunately that prevents you from being able to line all six up front to back and roll them on the same set of tracks. Still works fine on a floor or tabletop though, so I'm not too bummed by it.

It's not just a thing in Japan. In real life in many parts of the world, there exist standard gauge railways and narrow gauge railways (arguably one of the most famous being the Talyllyn Railway in Wales). The type of engine that Getsuei turns into is a narrow gauge engine, making him the odd one out. In real life, standard gauge and narrow gauge are not supposed to interact with each other on the same rail tracks, so it's the fault of Takara back in the 1980s for basing the Diaclone toy that would later be used for Getsuei on an engine type that is, in real life, incompatible with the others.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153653)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2023 @ 10:54am CST

Seizan looks pretty nice! I love the sword pose, kinda neat how they are spreading out all of the accessories over the releases. I think Suiken still looks better than Seizan, but the arms both look to be strong individuals.

As for the conversation related to the combined mode, I think it is clear that they were focusing on the train modes as the primary modes here, with the robot modes built in 2nd and combined mode last, and like Sabrblade said, it makes sense that a character like this might need an avenue where they can focus on another aspect (i.e. the train community) of the characters to help them actually sell. I for one am OK with it, especially since I very much dislike the 3P Raiden.

Also, speaking of combined mode, the image below started circulating. Not sure where it came from, but it shows a black and white sketch of Kaen in there too.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153659)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 13th, 2023 @ 11:37am CST

Raiden's arms look a little short.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2023 @ 4:19pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:The type of engine that Getsuei turns into is a narrow gauge engine, making him the odd one out.

The Shinkansen duo Shouki and Yukikaze are standard gauge; the other four are all 3'6" narrow gauge. The latter was used in the British Empire, and areas they had a hand in.

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Posted by Nemesis Destron on January 15th, 2023 @ 4:00pm CST

Damnation I can't wait til the final combiner figure so we can see a over all review and see the possible flaws involved and IF it's worth the possible small fortune it will involve. Unlike many others that have already gotten the figures already released to date my wait continues on. :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153867)
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2023 @ 9:36am CST

Sabrblade wrote:Raiden's arms look a little short.

Pretty sure they're bent at the elbows and the panel that frees the articulation is hiding his upper arms.

Incidentally, Wonder Festival 2023 [Winter] is a few weeks away, we might get our first look at Kaen as a gray model there and the mostly complete Raiden.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153907)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 16th, 2023 @ 7:14pm CST

Emerje wrote:Incidentally, Wonder Festival 2023 [Winter] is a few weeks away, we might get our first look at Kaen as a gray model there and the mostly complete Raiden.

Really hoping so

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153951)
Posted by RotorstormNZ on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:13pm CST

Immortal Starscream wrote:besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off.

So they designers didn't start with Raiden being the end goal?!

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2153954)
Posted by o.supreme on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:36pm CST

RotorstormNZ wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off.

So they designers didn't start with Raiden being the end goal?!

Raiden has always been part of the design. It's just that making the individual train modes for model train enthusiasts in Japan seems to have been the priority (again this is all fan conjecture, nothing has been stated anyone at TT as far as I am aware).

I'm sure however when it is all said and done it will be quite the accomplishment.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2154004)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 18th, 2023 @ 10:19am CST

o.supreme wrote:
RotorstormNZ wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off.

So they designers didn't start with Raiden being the end goal?!

Raiden has always been part of the design. It's just that making the individual train modes for model train enthusiasts in Japan seems to have been the priority (again this is all fan conjecture, nothing has been stated anyone at TT as far as I am aware).

I'm sure however when it is all said and done it will be quite the accomplishment.

Also keep in mind that whatever is drawn on paper or modeled in CAD may not always work out the way they're supposed to in real life, so tweaks are made "on the go".

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Gattai MPG-4 Suiken Revealed (2157026)
Posted by o.supreme on February 28th, 2023 @ 6:30pm CST

DHL just delivered....

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