Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance"

Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance"

Monday, January 26th, 2009 9:24am CST

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YOUTHFUL IGNORANCE

Story by;
Curt “Duke of Luns” Lunsford

Art & Letters by;
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873888)
Posted by uranimusprime on January 26th, 2009 @ 10:14am CST
Cool premise for a short story. I don't think Optimus would call Bumblebee a "true autobot" just for killing a 'con. He'd be the sort that would reassure him about his contributions without having to kill someone though. Good work.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873889)
Posted by Wingspan on January 26th, 2009 @ 10:14am CST
Well done on all fronts*; this was good.

*Accurate dialogue, panel design, use of toys, Ark background, etc.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873904)
Posted by Duke of Luns on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:00am CST
uranimusprime wrote:Cool premise for a short story. I don't think Optimus would call Bumblebee a "true autobot" just for killing a 'con. He'd be the sort that would reassure him about his contributions without having to kill someone though. Good work.


That seems to be the most common criticism. On the one hand, maybe I did overlook that small fact. However, Prime is a soldier, and I was portraying him as a "General" of sorts, and like everyone else in the piece, maybe has "dehumanized" their enemy over time.

Or, maybe Bee's grief is misconstrueing Prime's words.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873907)
Posted by Chaoslock on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:06am CST
Duke of Luns wrote:
uranimusprime wrote:Cool premise for a short story. I don't think Optimus would call Bumblebee a "true autobot" just for killing a 'con. He'd be the sort that would reassure him about his contributions without having to kill someone though. Good work.


That seems to be the most common criticism. On the one hand, maybe I did overlook that small fact. However, Prime is a soldier, and I was portraying him as a "General" of sorts, and like everyone else in the piece, maybe has "dehumanized" their enemy over time.


Well, the G1 Prime or most of the bots would never agree on killing, Shattered Prime or the Movie-verse Prime would...

Still, the artwork is good, but this feels like a Shattered Glass story.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873914)
Posted by Tigertrack on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:21am CST
Nice job Luns. I enjoyed it a lot!
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873918)
Posted by First-Aid on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:28am CST
Absolutely wonderful Mosaic. One of my faves for sure.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873931)
Posted by esclavo on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:46am CST
Nice mosaic! I love the art and the way you used the figures to portray the story. Story is great also. I like the fact that Optimus acts more like a general than his G1 self. It is war after all. Nice piece.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873972)
Posted by Skullgrin140 on January 26th, 2009 @ 1:37pm CST
You really have to feel sorry for Bumblebee, hard to see such a character like him having thoughts of guilt and selfloathing.

But well written mosaic and also great use of toys for the art.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (873977)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 26th, 2009 @ 1:51pm CST
I dont think prime would say that in this context. I never realized how small BB was compared to Prime. I knew he was small but damn hes small.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874061)
Posted by Head Shot on January 26th, 2009 @ 3:42pm CST
yet another crappy mosaic... am I the only one who really hates these things or am I just seriously that crazy? All they ever really seem to be is some poorly written fan-wank, and I have yet to see one that I actually like.

First off, to one of the first posters saying that the writing is accurate.... yeah its accurate if we were talking about the shattered glass universe, but none of the autobots in my mind with the exception of a few like Ironhide ever glorified killing the 'cons. Beating them by stopping them from doing further harm to the planet and other living things was glorified, even beating the pulp out of them, but killing?

Do you all forget this was a children's cartoon and not some poorly written science fiction that glorifies robots killing eachother? The autobots were never blood thirsty soldiers, and from the depiction of this, every autobot in this story, ESPECIALLY PRIME, are waaaaaay out of character. Absolutely trash writing whoever came up with the dialogue. Very good message in regards with Bumblebee's morality, and the deeper meaning behind the whole segment, but thats all defiled by the terrible dialogue and out of character personifactions of Jazz, Prime, and the others.

Flame me if you want, but I just can't stand these things... and I've tried to like them but simply can't. Maybe theres something wrong with me, or maybe its just that I can't stand 99.9999999% of fanfiction for anything. :?
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874065)
Posted by Mega Zarak on January 26th, 2009 @ 3:53pm CST
Head Shot wrote:yet another crappy mosaic... am I the only one who really hates these things or am I just seriously that crazy? All they ever really seem to be is some poorly written fan-wank, and I have yet to see one that I actually like.

First off, to one of the first posters saying that the writing is accurate.... yeah its accurate if we were talking about the shattered glass universe, but none of the autobots in my mind with the exception of a few like Ironhide ever glorified killing the 'cons. Beating them by stopping them from doing further harm to the planet and other living things was glorified, even beating the pulp out of them, but killing?

Do you all forget this was a children's cartoon and not some poorly written science fiction that glorifies robots killing eachother? The autobots were never blood thirsty soldiers, and from the depiction of this, every autobot in this story, ESPECIALLY PRIME, are waaaaaay out of character. Absolutely trash writing whoever came up with the dialogue. Very good message in regards with Bumblebee's morality, and the deeper meaning behind the whole segment, but thats all defiled by the terrible dialogue and out of character personifactions of Jazz, Prime, and the others.

Flame me if you want, but I just can't stand these things... and I've tried to like them but simply can't. Maybe theres something wrong with me, or maybe its just that I can't stand 99.9999999% of fanfiction for anything. :?


No I'm not going to flame you, you are entitled to your opinion. But what was the purpose of your post? You took something that someone worked hard on and lumped in all the others for that matter and really just spit on them. "Another crappy mosaic" is really what I'm talking about, I've seen my share of bad ones but decline to comment. You know that old saying, if you can't say something nice... Not everyone is a prize winning author.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874082)
Posted by hippymule on January 26th, 2009 @ 4:27pm CST
thats geneis real pictures of tfs tured into a comic pure genies
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874083)
Posted by hippymule on January 26th, 2009 @ 4:29pm CST
Mega Zarak wrote:
Head Shot wrote:yet another crappy mosaic... am I the only one who really hates these things or am I just seriously that crazy? All they ever really seem to be is some poorly written fan-wank, and I have yet to see one that I actually like.

First off, to one of the first posters saying that the writing is accurate.... yeah its accurate if we were talking about the shattered glass universe, but none of the autobots in my mind with the exception of a few like Ironhide ever glorified killing the 'cons. Beating them by stopping them from doing further harm to the planet and other living things was glorified, even beating the pulp out of them, but killing?

Do you all forget this was a children's cartoon and not some poorly written science fiction that glorifies robots killing eachother? The autobots were never blood thirsty soldiers, and from the depiction of this, every autobot in this story, ESPECIALLY PRIME, are waaaaaay out of character. Absolutely trash writing whoever came up with the dialogue. Very good message in regards with Bumblebee's morality, and the deeper meaning behind the whole segment, but thats all defiled by the terrible dialogue and out of character personifactions of Jazz, Prime, and the others.

Flame me if you want, but I just can't stand these things... and I've tried to like them but simply can't. Maybe theres something wrong with me, or maybe its just that I can't stand 99.9999999% of fanfiction for anything. :?


No I'm not going to flame you, you are entitled to your opinion. But what was the purpose of your post? You took something that someone worked hard on and lumped in all the others for that matter and really just spit on them. "Another crappy mosaic" is really what I'm talking about, I've seen my share of bad ones but decline to comment. You know that old saying, if you can't say something nice... Not everyone is a prize winning author.
seconed on that man
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874149)
Posted by spiritofcat on January 26th, 2009 @ 6:22pm CST
I like the use of photos. It's a good look.
I do have to disagree with the characterisation though, especially Prime.
Like plenty of others before me have said, killing cons has never been the goal for the Autobots.
However, if Bumblebee had killed Starscream by accident I can imagine some of the troops being quite pleased and impressed.
I can agree with Bumblebee's side of the story.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874151)
Posted by Sledge on January 26th, 2009 @ 6:32pm CST
Before we begin, you're sadly entitled to your opinion, and even to express it. But I'm going to rip it to shreds because you don't seem to have put any thought into it.
Head Shot wrote:yet another crappy mosaic... am I the only one who really hates these things or am I just seriously that crazy? All they ever really seem to be is some poorly written fan-wank, and I have yet to see one that I actually like.
Well, sucks to be you. I can think of several so good that I've saved them to my hard drive so I can enjoy them again and again. Poorly-written? Let's see how you back that up.
First off, to one of the first posters saying that the writing is accurate.... yeah its accurate if we were talking about the shattered glass universe, but none of the autobots in my mind with the exception of a few like Ironhide ever glorified killing the 'cons. Beating them by stopping them from doing further harm to the planet and other living things was glorified, even beating the pulp out of them, but killing?
First of all, where do you see anyone praising BB for killing? They're complimenting him on a job well done. I doubt very much that the job BB was sent to do was killing what looks like Skywarp. Looks to me more like BB did his job and had to kill someone in the process.

Second, are you at all familiar with the characters? Let's look at who is complimenting him. Jazz: according to his profile, he "takes most dangerous missions," and he's a special ops agent. Doesn't sound like someone who'd shy away from killing.

Sunstreaker "is a very calm, competent, and ruthless war machine." Yeah, I'll bet he cries himself to sleep every time he has to kill a 'Con.

Sideswipe "relishes a fight to the finish with an opponent. Uses underhanded tactics when absolutely necessary." Why, this just doesn't seem to be supporting your point at all, does it? It's... it's almost like you were talking out of your rear end! :o

Do you all forget this was a children's cartoon and not some poorly written science fiction that glorifies robots killing eachother?
No. It's a series of toy robots that, over the years has spawned several cartoon shows, movies and comic books. And in every single one of them, characters have got killed. "Glorifies"? Did you actually read this? The whole frickin' point is about how terrible it is to kill someone, even an enemy! Jeez, people like you are the reason crap fiction gets made. Why bother putting some effort in when some numpty will come along, not pay attention then miss the point and blame the writer?
The autobots were never blood thirsty soldiers, and from the depiction of this, every autobot in this story, ESPECIALLY PRIME, are waaaaaay out of character.
Already covered this. You don't know those characters well. And, of course, I'll ask you to show me where Prime is saying "Way to go on slaughtering the enemy."
Absolutely trash writing whoever came up with the dialogue. Very good message in regards with Bumblebee's morality, and the deeper meaning behind the whole segment, but thats all defiled by the terrible dialogue and out of character personifactions of Jazz, Prime, and the others.
Again, try paying attention to what you're reading. Or just go back to watching the Matrix sequels.

Flame me if you want, but I just can't stand these things... and I've tried to like them but simply can't. Maybe theres something wrong with me, or maybe its just that I can't stand 99.9999999% of fanfiction for anything. :?
Yes, there's something wrong with you. You don't pay attention to what you're reading and you don't know as much as you think you do about Transformers.

So, what do I think? I like it. The characters are in character, which is something a lot of TF fanfic writers have trouble with.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874158)
Posted by olokin on January 26th, 2009 @ 6:44pm CST
The effect is scratchy but I like it. I'd like more of this type of Mosaic utilizing actual toys.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874161)
Posted by Editor on January 26th, 2009 @ 6:51pm CST
Ok, First off. I like this Mosaic. Good story great imagery, a well thought out idea, presented brilliantly.

And for all the people who are criticizing this work, here is why.

At what point do any of them congrat BB for killing? I don't see any clear indication of them doing so. What I do see is that they are proud of him for completing a mission or a battle.

Yes, clearly he took out a Seeker during that time and it is weighing heavily on him, but there is not one direct indication that their praise is for him killing.

When taken in that light, every single one of them is reacting completely within character.

Great job.
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874165)
Posted by DoubleOScorpio on January 26th, 2009 @ 7:05pm CST
To Head Shot - If the Mosaics have been such a disappointment to you, why not write one yourself? Put your money where your pie hole is!

To Luns - excellent job on this. I love the use of figures and the story. I felt bad for Bumbles and loved the body language in the last frame. It drove home how upset he was. Great job!!!
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874169)
Posted by Tiby on January 26th, 2009 @ 7:15pm CST
I understood Prime's words to mean that Bumblebee was a true Autobot as he was suffering from these feelings of guilt, doubt and inner turmoil after taking a life, not simply because he took a life.

I thought Bumblebee's thoughts showed that he missed Prime's point after getting all the cheers from the other Autobots.

Great Mosaic! Keep them coming!
Re: Transformers Mosaic: "Youthful Ignorance" (874186)
Posted by Mr O on January 26th, 2009 @ 7:58pm CST
This is great. I love it. I want more. If I hated it I wouldn't have posted, at least not without offering something I considered better in it's place. Why slag something you could just disregard? For the sake of it? Insecure? Unimaginative? I made up my own stories when I played with TF's as a child and though I'm way past toy age now I still make up stories, it's fun. What's wrong with being creative? Mosaic is one of the coolest things I can be bothered with right now and whether I'm familiar with the continuity or not I appreciate the creativity and self-motivation for their own sake. Mosaic forever! Head Shots tend to damage the thinking.
Sorry to ramble.

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