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Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I doubt I'll ever be able to watch RID at it's usual time, but CN has put it up on it's on demand hub so I was able to watch part 1 of the pilot. Not bad, I can't judge the series yet because nothing has really happened. All I can hope is for an increase in views of the toys. I also hope that those of you watching it online are also going to watch the episodes as they air, you're only hurting the brand if you don't.

If I had cable again, I would (we lost it).

I can't afford cable, and none of the websites that I know of that stream the show legally and for free work for me in Canada.

Plus the shows are being effective at marketing to me, convincing me to buy Steeljaw so far and I'm on the verge of buying Grimlock. If the shows truly exist to sell the toys, then all Hasbro need do to get my money is to release Warrior-class figures of all the Decepticons from the show and I will be dumping 20$ a pop on them (Yeah, in Canada at TRU the RID2015 warrior-class figures are 19.99 before tax). I don't think that us (the adult fanbase) are going to cut much of their profit away if we watch it illegally as opposed to legally, since they don't really expect us to be watching on CartoonNetwork at 6am, furthermore, we are also likely to buy the figures even without the TV show selling the characters to us (as it has become part of our identity as collectors)



Now, on a separate note, Someone mentioned the FOC Dinobots being in the Prime comics fighting the Predacons? Is that worth reading?

Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

NuclearConvoy wrote:Now, on a separate note, Someone mentioned the FOC Dinobots being in the Prime comics fighting the Predacons? Is that worth reading?

It's an OK comic, nothing to write home about, but not terrible. It's basically what you want from a comic. But I wouldn't bother, since as we know, not even the creators care for it.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.

If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.

Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Surely all of the animal based cons became Decepticons and were captured before the revival of Cybertron. There is no indication in the show that the war is ongoing, so any current/ex Decepticons must have joined the faction prior to the events of Predacons Rising, and so animalistic cybertronians in the RID timeline do predate the rebirth.

I'll put it down to artistic license but it is still a bit of a continuity point.

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.

If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.

Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.

But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.

And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.

And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.

If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.

Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.

But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.

And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.

And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.

You're putting too much thought into this Sabre, nobody on this show knows or cares about what the Covenant says, just like the author of the Covenant didn't care about what everything else in the universe was doing.
They have ideas for something, and they will execute them pre-established continuity or rules be damned. So no, they likely don't know about Sharkticons originating from Aquatron in Aligned, they just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that. Same logic behind Grimlock or anything else in this show, or any other part of this "Continuity".

A shame, because had the show not been sold to us as part of Aligned and the sequel to Prime, I would have enjoyed the humor in this.

Dead Metal wrote: just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that.

Or owned the copy right/trade mark for.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.

Possibly. I think this is a really good point. I understand peoples disappointment and desire to have a consistent continuity. After being a die hard Star Wars (and TFs for that matter) fan for so long I think I have just learned to except inconsistency, fill in the blanks with head canon, and forget the existing things that don't work for me.
But, I think really, what it boils down to is These shows are made to hook new generations of fans. Every 4 or 5 years we get a new show, and every 4 or 5 years there are new generations of 7 to 12 year olds and their respective cash wielding parents.

Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

Dead Metal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Oh, and speaking of Predacons in Prime, it does sort of confuse me that they can link the Prime plot to this plot and sudden;y have like dozens of different kinds of animalistic Decepticon subspecies and yet, in the Prime cartoon, it seemed absolutely baffling to them that any Cybertronian life could have been so animalistic...

Cybertron was a dead world by the time of Prime, so it's couldn't support a whole host of wildlife by that point. The only fauna that we saw to still be alive on the planet were a bunch of Scraplets and at least one Insecticon. Though, Arcee, did mention "vermin", suggesting there could have been other creepy crawlies roaming the planet at the time, but not many.

But after the planet was revived, it was hospitable again and could support life once more, including Cybertronian animals.

And there was Soundwave's avian Minicon Deployer Laserbeak in the show, too.

Sure, but then how much farther in the future is this supposed to be set? Or, alternatively, how long have these Decepticons been kept in stasis in prison? etc.

If we take this as a completely new series that only throws odd references to the past at the viewer then it doesn't matter, but if it is a true sequel to Prime and WFC/FOC then it is truly confusing.

Am I asking too much from Children's programming? Possibly.

But there were more animals on Cybertron before it went dark. The Well created a whole bunch during the Age of Evolution. And after the planet was dead, they couldn't survive anymore.

And not all of the Decepticons in this show have been said to be full on animals. Steeljaw's only wolf aspects are his head and tail. The rest of his body is like any ordinary bipedal Cybertronian.

And some of them might not even originally be from Cybertron. Like Hammerstrike, for instance. Though he was on Cybertron at some previous point, his being a Sharkticon means that he (or his ancestry) would have to have originally been from Aquatron, the Sharkticons' homeworld.

You're putting too much thought into this Sabre, nobody on this show knows or cares about what the Covenant says, just like the author of the Covenant didn't care about what everything else in the universe was doing.
They have ideas for something, and they will execute them pre-established continuity or rules be damned. So no, they likely don't know about Sharkticons originating from Aquatron in Aligned, they just know that the term Sharkticon is something that's old and popular and went with that. Same logic behind Grimlock or anything else in this show, or any other part of this "Continuity".

A shame, because had the show not been sold to us as part of Aligned and the sequel to Prime, I would have enjoyed the humor in this.

Don't you think you're just jumping to conclusions too quickly? We're only 9 episodes into the series so we still have plenty of time to see how RID15 connects to the algined universe assuming that it won't get canned. Also you can't assume the writers don't know or care about the pre-established continuity without any proof to back it up with. As for the tone of the series why is having it more light hearted such a bad thing? Isn't it better that Hasbro keeps bringing more vareity into their shows? If they all retain the same general tone people will get bored real quick.

I really don't see what the big deal about Cybertron having animals is. It didn't have them before because it couldn't sustain them. But now that it can, it does. What's the problem?

Is it the Predacons? Everyone's reactions to them in Prime? Those reactions were no different than how humans of today would react to seeing dinosaurs walk the Earth again in the present. Predacons were an ancient extinct species no different from the situation of the dinosaurs. To see a Predacon alive and well in the 21st century would be just like seeing a dinosaur alive and well in the 21st century.

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

Hasbro specifically said it was going to be a new timeline for all TF productions going forward. War for Cybertron was the first of the entries into it, followed by Prime. The problem is that there was no real communication between High Moon Studios and Hasbro Studios, so it was rife with continuity errors. They patched this up in season 2 and Fall of Cybertron, with more apparent links between the two. And now RID dropped a cherry bomb in that toilet and we've moved back behind square one.

Shadowman wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

Hasbro specifically said it was going to be a new timeline for all TF productions going forward. War for Cybertron was the first of the entries into it, followed by Prime. The problem is that there was no real communication between High Moon Studios and Hasbro Studios, so it was rife with continuity errors. They patched this up in season 2 and Fall of Cybertron, with more apparent links between the two. And now RID dropped a cherry bomb in that toilet and we've moved back behind square one.

I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I lost interest in Prime after season 1 and have yet to play those games.

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.

I have only been exposed to the Prime cartoon and the RID15 cartoon. I want to play the games (WFC/FOC) but haven't found them yet.


And, honestly, I don't really care if this series is actually connected to anything else or not. It just seems to me like they want it to be a sequel to Prime (Optimus is dead, Bumblebee talks again etc.) but have sort of made a lot of it incompatible with Prime. Also, the combat in this show seems a bit weird, considering the Prime cartoon and the bay-verse movies have tried desperately to make the TFs all have built in weapon systems and then *poof* everyone has to carry pistols (terribly designed ones at that) or "Decepticon Hunters" etc.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.

Cool. I like that Rescue Bots fits in there.
Guy's I am really a "toy guy" and head canon subscriber. That's why it intrigues me to read these conversations. Please carry on.

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Would anyone mind outlining what the "Aligned " continuity is, or what stories that encompasses?

The War for Cybertron video game, the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron one-shot comic, the Prime comic, the Prime cartoon, the Exiles novel, the Rescue Bots cartoon, the Fall of Cybertron comics, the Fall of Cybertron video game, the Rage of the Dinobots comics, the Beast Hunters comics, the Covenant of Primus book, the Retribution novel, the Rise of Dark Spark video game, and the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon.

I have only been exposed to the Prime cartoon and the RID15 cartoon. I want to play the games (WFC/FOC) but haven't found them yet.


And, honestly, I don't really care if this series is actually connected to anything else or not. It just seems to me like they want it to be a sequel to Prime (Optimus is dead, Bumblebee talks again etc.) but have sort of made a lot of it incompatible with Prime. Also, the combat in this show seems a bit weird, considering the Prime cartoon and the bay-verse movies have tried desperately to make the TFs all have built in weapon systems and then *poof* everyone has to carry pistols (terribly designed ones at that) or "Decepticon Hunters" etc.

To be fair the movies do have some of the characters like AOE Hound,Drift and Crosshairs carry guns and swords that aren't intergrated into their arms and Prime did have Wheeljack carry swords and Magnus with his hammer not to mention Knockout carrying a staff for example so the combat in RID15 isn't really that far off from what Prime did.

I guess. Still doesn't change how terrible the gun designs are in RID15.

It all just ends in fist fights anyway, and I think there is more proof that this is children's programing.

Cobotron wrote:It all just ends in fist fights anyway, and I think there is more proof that this is children's programing.

That's no excuse for lazy design.

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Cobotron wrote:It all just ends in fist fights anyway, and I think there is more proof that this is children's programing.

That's no excuse for lazy design.

Very True. But I think they are really trying to under play weapons all together in this show. The only Charactor with a gun is Strongarm, and she is a police officer. But I have yet to see her do much other than point it at a con before they kick her in the chest and disarm her.
I do like the Decepticon Hunter though. I think it's kind of a cool concept, and after watching episode 9, I think it will have more significance.