Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager Starscream Review

Thanks for the review. It let's me know to for surely get this figure. They've never made him in this mode and I like. It'll be a great addition to my collection.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Is the video not working for anyone else?

It's now not working for me, I'm contacting Seibertron about it

They had better do thundercracker and skywarp next for these molds. I care not for the coneheads, acidstorm, or slipstream.

But this, holy damn I'm definitely HAVING this thing!

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:They had better do thundercracker and skywarp next for these molds. I care not for the coneheads, acidstorm, or slipstream.

But this, holy damn I'm definitely HAVING this thing!

Thundercracker is Wave 3 with Springer, Skywarp is an exclusive. Red Wing is rumored for the Selects range.

The video not showing may a problem on YouTube's end, with the hotlinking.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skywarp is an exclusive.

WHY?

Exclusive to what?

Don't tell me I have to go to a f g convention or something to get one!

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skywarp is an exclusive.

WHY?

Exclusive to what?

Don't tell me I have to go to a f g convention or something to get one!

If Greenlight is anything to go by, to Amazon. There's another set with Slamdance and a redeco of Sideswipe that goes with it.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skywarp is an exclusive.

WHY?

Exclusive to what?

Don't tell me I have to go to a f g convention or something to get one!

Probably going to be an exclusive to Amazon like Blast Off or P/CP was...?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:their Transformers section of the toy aisles was completely and utterly empty. Not one single Transformer from any line, of any kind, was on the pegs or the shelf below. There was literally NOTHING for Transformers there.

Exact same thing today. They only had Botbots. That was all, nothing mainline. They had a single pack of Micromaster jets 2 weeks ago, and that's been it

Meanwhile at my Walmart (check the lower shelves):

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Deadput wrote:Your stretching it dude

Eh, I believe that I'm most likely over-exaggerating, I'm just annoyed that both of the Barricades this year are apparently rubbish when I was really looking forward to finally getting my hands on a good version of the character.

We just got the best version ever of the character last year with MPM Barricade. Thats why I really dont care at this point. We've been given the elixir of the gods, everything else by comparison will taste like piss.

Deadput wrote:hell that Club figure is just a straight repaint of TFP Prowl with no new head sculpt.

There's obviously no way of telling but I can only imagine that if this Barricade toy was made as exclusive as that previous Barricade toy, we wouldnt be having any of this discussion. Instead it would only be "oh fuck, how do I secure a preorder!!!". Or hell, if Hasbro was as lazy as everyone says they are and simply rereleased the club barricade people would be overjoyed at the idea of obtaining something deemed to have a higher value.

But instead we get an actual siege barricade that is available to everyone at a low price and now everyone can have a say. Yay? Who would have thought that the price for forgoing elitism was more whining?

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:their Transformers section of the toy aisles was completely and utterly empty. Not one single Transformer from any line, of any kind, was on the pegs or the shelf below. There was literally NOTHING for Transformers there.

Exact same thing today. They only had Botbots. That was all, nothing mainline. They had a single pack of Micromaster jets 2 weeks ago, and that's been it

Meanwhile at my Walmart (check the lower shelves):

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Deadput wrote:Your stretching it dude

Eh, I believe that I'm most likely over-exaggerating, I'm just annoyed that both of the Barricades this year are apparently rubbish when I was really looking forward to finally getting my hands on a good version of the character.

We just got the best version ever of the character last year with MPM Barricade. Thats why I really dont care at this point. We've been given the elixir of the gods, everything else by comparison will taste like piss.

Deadput wrote:hell that Club figure is just a straight repaint of TFP Prowl with no new head sculpt.

There's obviously no way of telling but I can only imagine that if this Barricade toy was made as exclusive as that previous Barricade toy, we wouldnt be having any of this discussion. Instead it would only be "oh ****, how do I secure a preorder!!!". Or hell, if Hasbro was as lazy as everyone says they are and simply rereleased the club barricade people would be overjoyed at the idea of obtaining something deemed to have a higher value.

But instead we get an actual siege barricade that is available to everyone at a low price and now everyone can have a say. Yay? Am I to take it that the price for forgoing elitism just the advent of more bitching and moaning?

I still don't see what everyone's looking for in a baricade that isn't currently, or soon to be, availible. If they made the Studio Series one bigger to allow for better articulation... ppl would cry about scale. If you really want the *best* barricade go hunt down the old Human Alliance one. The Masterpiece one is darn good... but again... it's got it's own scale going on.


I think the siege one will work out fine once we seen the actual sculpt and not a digital representation. Alternatively I think a little paintwork on the paneling inside the cowl along the jaw line would make a *big* difference. Or do the black Goatee like the referenced art.


Are collectors/fans god-forbid suffering from fatigue/burn out? Do we need (not that we'll ever get) a new Beast Wars type shift to shake things up?

On a side note... it's nice to see a Walmart actually stocked with something. I couldn't even spot a "transformers section" in my two local ones....

I believe I may have discovered something.


The use of Smokescreen as a base for this (essentially) G1 Barricade seemed like a right fit to me, and I couldn't put my finger on why. After some thinking I realized it was because I've seen it before, as fan art! And the similarities are a bit too close to be a coincidence in my mind. What do you guys think? Am I nuts? I mean there IS a lot of fanart out there. This art was posted in 2012 by the way.

Here's a link to the original post.
https://www.deviantart.com/guidoguidi/art/80-Retro-style-G1-Barricade-black-version-280192563

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I believe I may have discovered something.

transformers-war-for-cybertron-siege-discussion-thread-t110745s7125.php#p2013158

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I believe I may have discovered something.


The use of Smokescreen as a base for this (essentially) G1 Barricade seemed like a right fit to me, and I couldn't put my finger on why. After some thinking I realized it was because I've seen it before, as fan art! And the similarities are a bit too close to be a coincidence in my mind. What do you guys think? Am I nuts? I mean there IS a lot of fanart out there. This art was posted in 2012 by the way.

Here's a link to the original post.
https://www.deviantart.com/guidoguidi/art/80-Retro-style-G1-Barricade-black-version-280192563

is it wrong I kind of want to see that teal and hot pink barricade recolor?

I would also be perfectly okay seeing an MP Smokescreen w/ light bar recolor

william-james88 wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I believe I may have discovered something.

transformers-war-for-cybertron-siege-discussion-thread-t110745s7125.php#p2013158

Oh...

I'll be over here if you need me.

Can I just say I really like the Gold face they gave Barricade?

It makes him stand out amongst the waves and waves of generic silver face Transformers. Not that the silver faces are bad and if there was to be a default color for faces I'm glad it's silver but I'm glad we have some variety.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:
is it wrong I kind of want to see that teal and hot pink barricade recolor?

It's just the "Marvel comic" type lighting, the colors are meant to be Black and Purple.

william-james88 wrote:We just got the best version ever of the character last year with MPM Barricade. Thats why I really dont care at this point. We've been given the elixir of the gods, everything else by comparison will taste like piss.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I still don't see what everyone's looking for in a baricade that isn't currently, or soon to be, availible. If they made the Studio Series one bigger to allow for better articulation... ppl would cry about scale. If you really want the *best* barricade go hunt down the old Human Alliance one. The Masterpiece one is darn good... but again... it's got it's own scale going on.


I think the siege one will work out fine once we seen the actual sculpt and not a digital representation. Alternatively I think a little paintwork on the paneling inside the cowl along the jaw line would make a *big* difference. Or do the black Goatee like the referenced art.


Are collectors/fans god-forbid suffering from fatigue/burn out? Do we need (not that we'll ever get) a new Beast Wars type shift to shake things up?

I want the Evergreen design for Barricade as a figure. The TLK design it's based off of is good, but the figure had QC and clear plastic issues and I like the more streamlined Evergreen design better overall, especially the head design. Riot gear Barricade is something I didn't know I wanted until it existed, and now I love it. If this figure absolutely HAD to be a Prowl repaint, then I wanted him to have a head that actually looks like Barricade and suitably intimidating weaponry, instead of an Emo Smokescreen complete with his shoulder needle guns. The color scheme is great, and I love the purple windows and tires, but he doesn't resemble Barricade physically in any way other than having a hood chest and police tats. I was willing to settle for SS Movie 1 Barry because I didn't think we'd get another good Barricade anytime soon, let alone the one I wanted, and I was expecting Siege Barry to be disappointing, but apparently SS Barry has issues too, so I'm just disappointed on all fronts.

Also that fatigue you mentioned has been discussed multiple times at this point every time Hasbro just makes more of the same G1, and my broke college student budget can't justify Masterpieces even if I did want to suddenly start over with a new scale that doesn't work with retail stuff.

Well, I stopped by one of my more regular Walmarts on my way home from work tonight and, guess what? They had a Transformer! One. Just one. It was Studio Series Dropkick. Nothing else at all. Great going, Walmart! Way to stay on top of things.

As a stark contrast, have a look at this vintage Transformers G1 toy advertisement from Walmart. Yeah, let's try to rekindle some of that love for the brand 35 years later, eh Walmart?

Nemesis Primal wrote:
I want the Evergreen design for Barricade as a figure. The TLK design it's based off of is good, but the figure had QC and clear plastic issues and I like the more streamlined Evergreen design better overall, especially the head design. Riot gear Barricade is something I didn't know I wanted until it existed, and now I love it. If this figure absolutely HAD to be a Prowl repaint, then I wanted him to have a head that actually looks like Barricade and suitably intimidating weaponry, instead of an Emo Smokescreen complete with his shoulder needle guns. The color scheme is great, and I love the purple windows and tires, but he doesn't resemble Barricade physically in any way other than having a hood chest and police tats. I was willing to settle for SS Movie 1 Barry because I didn't think we'd get another good Barricade anytime soon, let alone the one I wanted, and I was expecting Siege Barry to be disappointing, but apparently SS Barry has issues too, so I'm just disappointed on all fronts.

Also that fatigue you mentioned has been discussed multiple times at this point every time Hasbro just makes more of the same G1, and my broke college student budget can't justify Masterpieces even if I did want to suddenly start over with a new scale that doesn't work with retail stuff.

An Evergreen Barricade would pop up in a you know an Evergreen line, Siege isn't an Evergreen line, the Evergreen design doesn't fit the Siege Aesthetic, you would still be disappointed because they would of changed it.

The head does look like a G1-vide Barricade, he has the gold face, forehead crest and black helmet, it just so happens to share a look with one of the "Datsun Brothers".

Barricade also didn't even officially use guns until TLK (In Dotm his gun was just a standard Protoform weapon it wasn't made with him in mind) and the only guns he even had was a dinky pistol and a wrist gun, only melee weapons he's ever used are his hand blades from 2007 and then a Baton and knuckle dusters in TLK.

I associate Barricade with beating up people with his fists more then I do with intimidating weaponry.

This figure didn't have to be a Prowl mold reuse but it was anyways to homage an Artist representation and a figure idea that some people wanted as well as the fact that Prowl was the inspiration for Barricade so it was either going to be a repaint/remold of Prowl or of Red Alert.

Why make his own mold when you could just use Prowl's from the very same line?

There isn't even a guarantee that Smokescreen is even going to come out we just know that there could be one, from what we know Bluestreak is an exclusive or a figure from some other line in some way so where does that leave Smokescreen's spot?

Plus how do we know that this head wasn't made for Barricade in mind with Smokescreen being thought up afterwards as the repaint?

Also I would say that Siege Barricade resembles the Evergreen/TLK design in ways besides the door wings but with colors more inspired by the 2007 guy which I will say is probably the most memorable version of the character.

Like I don't think he would of been as popular of a character if the TLK version showed up first over the 2007 one.