Travis Knight talks about what could be next after the Bumblebee Movie

That would be amazing. Would love to see a gritty CGI movie like that. Especially while a lot of the G1 voice cast is still able to reprise some of the roles. Which on a side note I blows my mind a little that Hasbro hasn’t just over dubbed the Headmasters and released it. Would have worked well with Prime Wars series.

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Bry Zilla wrote:That would be amazing. Would love to see a gritty CGI movie like that. Especially while a lot of the G1 voice cast is still able to reprise some of the roles. Which on a side note I blows my mind a little that Hasbro hasn’t just over dubbed the Headmasters and released it. Would have worked well with Prime Wars series.

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I think if they move forward with a Cybertron set movie, they should stick with the voice cast they've used for the Bumblebee Cybertron scene. It'll be good for continuity

I don't think a full on Cgi Transformers movie on Cybertron is a good idea as the next Transformers movie, not for story reasons or anything but I feel like it's jumping the gun a bit.

However I do think that the next movie which I assume is the Optimus movie from what I've heard should have a big chunk of Cybertron scenes whether they be flashbacks or if the first part of the movie has them, by big chunk I mean a good 20-40 minutes of Cybertron scenes.

In my mind this is what I'm thinking the basic plot structure of the Optimus Prime movie should be, this is if it's a reboot:

Warning some spoilers for the end of Bumblebee, not in depth spoilers but for anyone who doesn't want any don't read, after typing this out I put a TLDR at the bottom because I didn't realize how long this would be, and this is the short version I could write a whole novel about the "idea" of the movie.


We start with 5 or so minutes of Earth scenes picking up where Bumblebee ends with Optimus and Bumblebee as they were to establish the start of the movie with Prime explaining to Bee about what he was up to and what they should do next as they move out to meet up with the Autobots that show up at the end of the Bee movie which I assume is mostly the Autobots from the Bumblebee Cybertron scenes with a few additional others, so basically it's a reverse of Bumblebee's start where that movie started with 5 or so minutes on Cybertron before moving on to Earth.


We would transition to Cybertron as we see from the eyes of a younger Optimus who might or might not be named Orion Pax (probably would be) in my mind he would ideally be voiced by David Kaye in his Animated Optimus voice (Seriously though we need Kaye in these movies!) and would focus on his both his relationship with notable figures in his early life like Elita-1, Ultra Magnus, Roller or/and Dion as the best friend who ends up being the tragic first casualty, individuals who would later serve him as Autobots like Ratchet and Jazz or oppose him as Decepticons like Soundwave and Starscream, teachers/mentors like Alpha Trion, one or more of Prime's predecessors like Nova/Sentinel/Zeta but most importantly would be an also younger Megatron before he became the Decepticon leader, as well as the early stages of Optimus Prime's life whether that be as a Data clerk, dock worker, cop or someone who goes through all of those things over time (Like starts off as a data clerk, becomes a cop for adventure but becomes a dock worker later on to lie low from Megatron and the early Decepticons) before he ends up becoming "Optimus Prime leader of the Autobots" whether that be because another Prime dies on the battlefield against the Decepticons and passes responsibility to him or he gets elected to the position by a Cybertron council.


We wouldn't see the full war or anything from many other character perspectives besides Megatron and/or some other villain since stuff like that should be saved for a full on Cybertron movie since this movie would be about Optimus Prime so it should stick to smaller events like Prime's early life and big notable events Optimus takes part of like the start of the war, a notable fight or two he participates in and his "promotion/election" to Prime and/or Autobot leader, we also wouldn't see to much of Bumblebee here to make up for the spotlight of his own film although we would see the first time the two met.


So after the first arc or two on Cybetron we would return to Earth for the final arc of the movie where Prime and Bee would have to deal with the arrival of a small squad of Decepticon reinforcements led by Starscream (I would use him here since he wasn't a big presence in Bumblebee plus it would make up for the whole Blitzwing controversy to use him here) and some other high ranked Decepticon general who would serve as the designated character to kill for action and stuff but the movie would sort of build the character up during the Cybertron stuff as a character who has been present throughout his life, I would choose someone who would be notable enough to be a fan favorite but not to the point that people would be upset that they get killed in one movie like Bludgeon/Straxus/Stockade/Skyquake, Prime and Bee would have trouble with the majority of the Decepticons with the Decepticon General having Bumblebee at blade/gunpoint and ready to kill until the other Autobots that arrived at the end of Bumblebee would show up at the last moment to give Prime the moment to kill the the Decepticon General to save Bee which would lead to Starscream and the remaining Decepticons to retreat in old G1 cartoon fashion, movie ends with the Autobots establishing their base like they were planning to in Bumblebee.

After Credits scene would answer the question of where Megatron is in the present day whether that be on some Decepticon warship in space receiving Starscream's report on Earth about Prime and started heading there or Megatron already on Earth frozen or something.


(Argh I always end up writing more then I intend to so here is the TLDR: Start the film with 5 minutes on Earth, Act 1 being Optimus/Orion's early life before war, Act 2 being major events of Prime's life in the war like notable battles and his "promotion/election" to Prime and/or Autobot leader, Act 3 returning to Earth to deal with some Decepticons before reuniting with Autobot reinforcements)

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Unicron has the potential of being a great, intimidating villain if written correctly. I agree with the Thanos comment. Thanos in Infinity War was an exceptional, powerful, and even at times a relatable character. I enjoyed every scene with him for he had such the presence. All it takes to do a successful Transformers movie with Unicron is to write the movie well. I'm afraid that people tend to forget that what is placed on writing influences the aesthetic of a film (along with the director of course).

I personally wouldn't mind if they rewrote Unicron to be more than a planet eating planet-former.

My idea would be to sort of make him sort of a Devil like character who has a smaller "avatar" form the size of a typical Combiner who would reach out across the universe to different civilizations and make deals with individuals giving them things they want in return for favors, he would sort of be like a Mass Effect Reaper where spending enough time around him on his "planet" (Which would be the size of a moon at most and the Unicron Avatar would pass off his planet as a simple mobile space station) would corrupt the individual to the point where they end up serving as his herald and would offer their planet and moons to him for consumption and afterwards be sent out to find new planets for Unicron to eventually consume.

This Unicron wouldn't be as powerful as other incarnations where all the planet form has is the "planet sucker" and some guns to combat enemy fighters like the turrets on the Death Star, so Unicron has to work to earn his meals by corrupting enough individuals to take over the planet and shut down all defenses and threats to him so Unicron can safely consume those planets and moons without interference.

Unicron would have several Transformers as heralds since their a space faring species so naturally a few Cybertronians would have come across him at one point or another.

I think Unicron's Avatar could be inspired by his toy from the Transformers Cybertron toyline as well as the original comic Liege Maximo (although I have my own ideas for that character in general, mostly tying him with Logos Prime being his original name and pretending to be an organic galactic mob boss named Liege Maximo)

"We've been told for years that Transformers media needs human characters to remain relatable."

I still 100% believe that. While all of us here are salivating at the thought of a CGI, Transformers-only movie, it would only make a fraction of the money that a traditional TF movie would make. That would pretty much ensure we would never see another one like that. Most people I know who can be talked into watching one of the movies from Michael Bay, would simply never go see a "real" Transformers movie. Or if they did they would hate it.

I would just like some sort of closure on the Unicron thread. Anything really just so it isn't a dangling cliffhanger.

Wolfman Jake wrote:How do you feel about the prospect of a completely CGI-driven Transformers movie, without Earth, without humans? We've been told for years that Transformers media needs human characters to remain relatable. Will Paramount and Hasbro let Travis Knight put that to the test?

Predacons Rising says "Hi".

Predacons Rising is still my favorite TF movie. No humans, 95% on Cybertron, and fully CGI. None of which I care about because it was just a great story.

It also featured a Unicron who was not a planet-eater.

The people representing Hasbro really, really need to take a look at what's already been done. And been done well.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:How do you feel about the prospect of a completely CGI-driven Transformers movie, without Earth, without humans? We've been told for years that Transformers media needs human characters to remain relatable. Will Paramount and Hasbro let Travis Knight put that to the test?

Predacons Rising says "Hi".

Everyone always forgets that film. I bet they discount it because it wasn't released on the cinemas worldwide.

WiseMan wrote:It also featured a Unicron who was not a planet-eater.

Even though his role in that movie was kinda something of an unintentional ripoff of his role in Beast Wars Neo (e.g. - his reawakened non-corporeal form taking possession of the previously defeated villain faction leader's body as a new vessel--complete with a new makeover that even gives the body new a set of golden horns, no less--for the goal of returning to Cybertron and having his way with it, only to face opposition from the united forces of the show's heroes and villains working together to stop him and save Cybertron, which Unicron initially plows through with the utmost of ease, taking near control of Cybertron's very heart, but is ultimately defeated by a sacred talisman used by the leading mouthplated Prime/Convoy of the show's good guy faction).

When I thought I couldn't love this man any more, here we are
I think a clever route to take for the next film would be making an Orion Pax spinoff. Not only would this give us the long awaited backstory of Optimus Prime, but would also be a great means of telling the origin story of Megatron before becoming a corrupted war leader, and would also serve as a war on cybertron/Autobot/Decepticon origin story. All in one neat package that would sell to the audience like hotcakes
But hey, no matter what happens in the next chapter of this franchise, as long as Travis Knight is at the head of it, I'm 100% confident in the product. He's never failed me.

WiseMan wrote:Predacons Rising is still my favorite TF movie. No humans, 95% on Cybertron, and fully CGI. None of which I care about because it was just a great story.

It also featured a Unicron who was not a planet-eater.

The people representing Hasbro really, really need to take a look at what's already been done. And been done well.

Man Predacon rising was such a disappointing movie to me, nothing changed the status quo besides Unicron getting trapped and Optimus dying which was reversed by RID anyways.

(The actually final episode of the show would of made a better ending the PR did)

Deadput wrote:Man Predacon rising was such a disappointing movie to me, nothing changed the status quo besides Unicron getting trapped and Optimus dying which was reversed by RID anyways.

Uh, what about the planet being able to repopulate the species after having been inert for thousands of years?

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Man Predacon rising was such a disappointing movie to me, nothing changed the status quo besides Unicron getting trapped and Optimus dying which was reversed by RID anyways.

Uh, what about the planet being able to repopulate the species after having been inert for thousands of years?

Ah yeah there was that, the Omega lock shouldn't have been destroyed earlier if they were gonna go with that ending anyways.

Besides maybe Knock Out's defection and Megatron's "supposed" change of hear I was more so thinking there wasn't really any character development in the movie, things just happened.


Also disliked how Ultra Magnus gets beat up like a chump and then spends the rest of the movie in a "bed" and never says another word which is especially laughable that he never appears in RID afterwards and is never mentioned so for all we know he spends the rest of his life confined to a metal table or he died off screen after PR.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Man Predacon rising was such a disappointing movie to me, nothing changed the status quo besides Unicron getting trapped and Optimus dying which was reversed by RID anyways.

Uh, what about the planet being able to repopulate the species after having been inert for thousands of years?

Ah yeah there was that, the Omega lock shouldn't have been destroyed earlier if they were gonna go with that ending anyways.

Blame Beast Hunters for that. Season 2 had to blow through three seasons' worth of story to make room for Beast Hunters in Season 3 at the 11th hour.

Before the first live action TF movie was released in 2007, I spent 20 years (from 1987 to 2007) envisioning and all animated TF movie with as few human characters as possible in the vein of the 1986 TF:TM. So the idea has always been with me, only now has someone involved with the TF franchise actually been bold enough to state the idea in an interview. Seems like a slam dunk for me. It may not have general audiance appeal, but if Hasbro is that worried, make it on a smaller budget, straight to home media market. Warner/DC does 3 of these a year, and for the most part they are really well done (with few exceptions).

Also for what it's worth, IMHO Predacons Rising was amazing, heck even the BWII Movie was better than any Bayverse film.

Deadput wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Unicron has the potential of being a great, intimidating villain if written correctly. I agree with the Thanos comment. Thanos in Infinity War was an exceptional, powerful, and even at times a relatable character. I enjoyed every scene with him for he had such the presence. All it takes to do a successful Transformers movie with Unicron is to write the movie well. I'm afraid that people tend to forget that what is placed on writing influences the aesthetic of a film (along with the director of course).

I personally wouldn't mind if they rewrote Unicron to be more than a planet eating planet-former.

My idea would be to sort of make him sort of a Devil like character who has a smaller "avatar" form the size of a typical Combiner who would reach out across the universe to different civilizations and make deals with individuals giving them things they want in return for favors, he would sort of be like a Mass Effect Reaper where spending enough time around him on his "planet" (Which would be the size of a moon at most and the Unicron Avatar would pass off his planet as a simple mobile space station) would corrupt the individual to the point where they end up serving as his herald and would offer their planet and moons to him for consumption and afterwards be sent out to find new planets for Unicron to eventually consume.

This Unicron wouldn't be as powerful as other incarnations where all the planet form has is the "planet sucker" and some guns to combat enemy fighters like the turrets on the Death Star, so Unicron has to work to earn his meals by corrupting enough individuals to take over the planet and shut down all defenses and threats to him so Unicron can safely consume those planets and moons without interference.

Unicron would have several Transformers as heralds since their a space faring species so naturally a few Cybertronians would have come across him at one point or another.

I think Unicron's Avatar could be inspired by his toy from the Transformers Cybertron toyline as well as the original comic Liege Maximo (although I have my own ideas for that character in general, mostly tying him with Logos Prime being his original name and pretending to be an organic galactic mob boss named Liege Maximo)

You, sir, should write for Paramount. That idea could be thread throughout several self-contained stories (read: movies) in many creative ways.

Nexus Knight wrote:
You, sir, should write for Paramount. That idea could be thread throughout several self-contained stories (read: movies) in many creative ways.

I mean if someone could point me to where I could submit an application for Paramount or Hasbro in general I would happily do so! I have a cousin who's involved in some film and video game stuff (I'm not close to the guy, only movie I've known he's been in is one or two of the "Scary movie" films but I could get in contact with the guy)

While I would personally only be interested in writing Transformers stuff, I wouldn't mind taking a shot at other kinds of films or stories (Games, comics, etc) like horror (Had an idea about a guy who basically goes around hunting down horror movie killers and monsters, wouldn't be a parody but not completely serious either.)

Ideas is my general thing but I don't have the talent to bring any of that to life besides writing text and amateur photoshops. (I'm actually good at sound editing but I don't think that would help me here)


Edit: More on the idea of that Unicron, one of the ways he could corrupt others besides simple manipulation or forcefully feeding thoughts is to give addicting substances that poisons the mind, "drugs" and liquids for organic beings and things like "Dark Energon" for robotic beings, very addicting but it changes the individual to be more violent/aggressive as well as unawarely taking steps to further Unicron's goals such as constant warfare and domination of other species, also Unicron needs a lot of "fuel" (Read planets and or any other sufficient energy source) to be able to transform the planet mode and function with that body or even to move it across space. The Avatar isn't his real form or anything but simply a puppet shell used to talk to smaller beings.

Absolute Zero wrote:This producer sounds like an idiot.

No, he does not sound like an idiot. He is an idiot for sure!

Bleak5170 wrote:"We've been told for years that Transformers media needs human characters to remain relatable."

I still 100% believe that. While all of us here are salivating at the thought of a CGI, Transformers-only movie, it would only make a fraction of the money that a traditional TF movie would make. That would pretty much ensure we would never see another one like that. Most people I know who can be talked into watching one of the movies from Michael Bay, would simply never go see a "real" Transformers movie. Or if they did they would hate it.

I don't think so. If you always needed human characters, why had the transformers become popular among kids in 1980s in the first place? In the G1 cartoon, the role of humans was minimal. Human characters are NOT necessary to make movies relatable as long as the robots have their own personalities and behave like humans.

Depends on the fan as some want them less human but remember Hollywood is more into safe bets now, so if paramount think more humans will maximise profits, you can bet humans will be essential to the plot in some form. Now if we get another director like Travis though, and the right writer... Then we could, *could* get a movie set entirely on Cybertron. But that would only happen if Paramount were garunteed mass market success.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:How do you feel about the prospect of a completely CGI-driven Transformers movie, without Earth, without humans? We've been told for years that Transformers media needs human characters to remain relatable. Will Paramount and Hasbro let Travis Knight put that to the test?

Predacons Rising says "Hi".

Everyone always forgets that film. I bet they discount it because it wasn't released on the cinemas worldwide.

Its not that they discount it, its that it was a cartoon made for children, with nods to adult fans as an afterthought.

What works in a childrens cartoon format will NOT work in a major blockbuster film format, no matter how much some of us may wish it so.

Ironhidensh wrote:Its not that they discount it, its that it was a cartoon made for children, with nods to adult fans as an afterthought.

Did we watch the same show? That's, like, the one American-made TF cartoon that tried to pretend like it wasn't a kids show, as though it found being labeled a kids show embarrassing (like how insecure teenagers like to insist that they're totally mature and not still kids anymore). If I had kids, I certainly wouldn't let them watch Prime until they were old enough to be able to handle it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Its not that they discount it, its that it was a cartoon made for children, with nods to adult fans as an afterthought.

Did we watch the same show? That's, like, the one American-made TF cartoon that tried to pretend like it wasn't a kids show, as though it found being labeled a kids show embarrassing (like how insecure teenagers like to insist that they're totally mature and not still kids anymore). If I had kids, I certainly wouldn't let them watch Prime until they were old enough to be able to handle it.

My kids are 4 and 5, and they've watched the entirety of Prime. I say this with no disrespect intended, but I think you have a distorted view, or maybe just old fashioned, of what is mature content.

I like Prime too, but it was a kids show.

As a responsible parent who does monitor what my kids watch, I'll just say this... I loved Prime, and felt it was made for a fan like myself...for *adults*, specifically though...I don,t know, maybe for teenageers. I felt the action was on par with something like Star Wars. My kids were 4 and 5 when it started airing. It's not so much that I prevented them from watching it, its just that they wouldn't have cared for it. When Rescue Bots came out in 2012, this was perfect for them at that time, and my son also liked some other shows like Armada... As he grew older, he could appreciate more complicated shows like the Original Series, Beast Wars and TF Prime.

The only TF content I did censor pretty heavily was, of course the Bay Films, for obvious reasons. My kids are now just a few months away form turning 13 and 14, so seeing the BB Movie with them in theaters was a pretty fun experience, they both thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm glad there was no content that really caused me to regret that decision.

I'm sure they will find a way to spin the poor sales as "G1, the 80's and small scale plots doesn't sell let's go back to the Bayverse style and see what happens"

I think you're being too pessimistic Deadput, if anything, they'll just allow more time to pass between installments. So for example, we'll get a new film in 2022

ZeroWolf wrote:I think you're being too pessimistic Deadput, if anything, they'll just allow more time to pass between installments. So for example, we'll get a new film in 2022

True, I'm just in a sour mood about the possibility that my enjoyment of Bumblebee will be for nothing, well not the enjoyment itself but more so if they don't properly follow up on it.

Patience young padwan, we don't know anything at the moment, wait until bee is everywhere and more box office takings. At the very least you can bet that Paramount are looking at what people are saying about the movie, while money is the ultimate factor, critical opinion is valued as well. I wouldn't worry about a return for Bay, and no one will want to Ape his style.

Oops, redundant post. My bad.

Hot on the heels of Transformers Bumblebee, and the news of its box office takings and critical acclaim, Live Action series Producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura has revealed that an animated Transformers movie, one that is set to explore Cybertron's history, is now in development. This news comes courtesy of fellow Seibertron user, Carytheone.



This was revealed during an interview that the producer gave to Metro

Lorenzo di Bonaventura wrote:“We actually have an animated movie in the works that will tell the whole Cybertron mythology. The fans will love that,” Di Bonaventura teases. “We’re trying to figure out an [Optimus Prime solo movie].”

In the same interview he admits that they are still trying to figure out how to do a Optimus Prime solo movie, stating:

Lorenzo di Bonaventura wrote:“It will be hard with Optimus, he is always right, very stoic and is a man of few words … It is kind of like saying, ‘Lets do a movie about Obi-Wan Kenobi?’ But how much is there to say about Obi-Wan? It is not so easy."

You can read the full interview here.

Is the news of your dreams? Will this tie in to the current film lore or restart all of it? Let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

I think the primary reason you can't do a standalone for Optimus is that a standalone spin off movie focuses on someone away from the main character. Optimus Prime is the main character of transformers, he's the Big Good.
I hope that this animated cybertron film shows the start of the war while those of us who read comics and novels have several good ones to choose from the broader audience don't have those. I really hope we start with Orion Pax and he becomes optimus part way through, particularly if it is in any way like the way it goes in Autocracy.

I don’t think he always needs to be right. IDW built an optimus wasn’t always right, an optimus where it took Megatron to see the flaws of his world and speak out and stand up. Even his own series showed that he was a very flawed person that was always trying to do the right thing. It’s 100% possible to make optimus a deep character.

I don’t know why the producer is saying he’s always right becuase he does things that arnt always right and I’m not talking about the “murder prime” BS that became a joke in the fandom. The last two movies with Cade trying to talk to him and help him with his own demons he had showed that. Let’s be honest AoE and LK showed optimus losing his faith in humanity and Cade and Bee proved him wrong.

Randomhero wrote:I don’t think he always needs to be right. IDW built an optimus was always right, an optimus where it took Megatron to see the flaws of his world and speak out and stand up. Even his own series showed that he was a very flawed person that was always trying to do the right thing. It’s 100% possible to make optimus a deep character.

I don’t know why the producer is saying he’s always right becuase he does things that arnt always right and I’m not talking about the “murder prime” BS that became a joke in the fandom. The last two movies with Cade trying to talk to him and help him with his own demons he had showed that. Let’s be honest AoE and LK showed optimus losing his faith in humanity and Cade and Bee proved him wrong.

I think it's become obvious by now that Lorenzo di Bonaventura has, at best, a surface level understanding of the Transformers franchise and its characters. He is similar to people that watch the movies for what they are, without being into the brand itself. Everything he's said regarding story and characters are what I would expect from someone who spent a day reading about Transformers on Wikipedia and just went from there.

Randomhero wrote:I don’t think he always needs to be right. IDW built an optimus was always right, an optimus where it took Megatron to see the flaws of his world and speak out and stand up. Even his own series showed that he was a very flawed person that was always trying to do the right thing. It’s 100% possible to make optimus a deep character.

I don’t know why the producer is saying he’s always right becuase he does things that arnt always right and I’m not talking about the “murder prime” BS that became a joke in the fandom. The last two movies with Cade trying to talk to him and help him with his own demons he had showed that. Let’s be honest AoE and LK showed optimus losing his faith in humanity and Cade and Bee proved him wrong.

I really hope that Optimus solo series is never adapted or used outside the comic. With half the time spent on figuring out how to add an earth delegate to the council of Cybertron, i think people would flash back to all that exciting senate action in the Star Wars prequels.

If anyone wants depth for Optimus, just read Chaos Theory (2 parter) . Its the greatest TF comic of all time and deals exactly with Optimus' origin.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I don’t think he always needs to be right. IDW built an optimus was always right, an optimus where it took Megatron to see the flaws of his world and speak out and stand up. Even his own series showed that he was a very flawed person that was always trying to do the right thing. It’s 100% possible to make optimus a deep character.

I don’t know why the producer is saying he’s always right becuase he does things that arnt always right and I’m not talking about the “murder prime” BS that became a joke in the fandom. The last two movies with Cade trying to talk to him and help him with his own demons he had showed that. Let’s be honest AoE and LK showed optimus losing his faith in humanity and Cade and Bee proved him wrong.

I really hope that Optimus solo series is never adapted or used outside the comic. With half the time spent on figuring out how to add an earth delegate to the council of Cybertron, i think people would flash back to all that exciting senate action in the Star Wars prequels.

If anyone wants depth for Optimus, just read Chaos Theory (2 parter) . Its the greatest TF comic of all time and deals exactly with Optimus' origin.

Oh I don’t think you could ever adapt anything from the Optimus Prime comic series. Not because it wasn’t good, it was my favorite out of the two but it was a series that used all of the flashbacks and history of IDW as it’s backbone. The flashbacks were all snippets of stuff that just flushed out more of time in his life.

You’re absolutely right saying chaos theory is a good place to go and while I don’t like it maybe some of Autocracy. The final product is trash but concepts and over ideas in it are good it’s just the execution that flopped. To me that is.

I think the producer is probably basing his reasoning of G1 cartoon prime.

Oh i dont think you are alone in thinking that, i feel the same way about the autocracy trilogy. But i feel a big problem that didnt help was the visual storytelling. That artist would use the most baffling angles for his panels sometimes.

Just do a movie on Orion Pax: Super Cop.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the producer is probably basing his reasoning of G1 cartoon prime.

Actually I felt the exact opposite. Paramount wanted to refrain from doing a film set on Cybertron as established in the original animated series, because that would not mesh well with the already established Bayverse. Yes I know it's continuity has more holes than swiss cheese, but it caused enough problems to prevent us from seeing Megatron in the Cybertron set scenes of the BB movie.

I'll probably be laughed off the forums, but I'd love to see a polished version of War Dawn as an animated film. Probably not including the Aerialbots, but a different team of Autobots traveling to Cybertron's past, and witnessing all the events that cause Orion Pax to become Optimus Prime.

Hmm. . . I know the whole continuity thing is up in the air right now, but I like the idea of the Optimus movie being about him having to lead the Autobots after Sentinel goes AWOL (which we saw in the opening of DOTM).

If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity

leokearon wrote:If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity

Why cant it be just a prequel to that opening scene in Bumblebee?

leokearon wrote:If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity

That just means it will be all CGI. Something Knight said wanted to make a month ago as a prequel to bumblebee about the war before he decided he wanted to focus on smaller stuff

Yeah, I'll echo what will and Randomhero have said. This project does sound like it's setting up that opening scene but we'll learn more as time passes. All of this should be seen as a good thing as it shows they are paying attention to what people are saying about bee.

However IIRC correctly, an animated film itself isn't exactly *new* news, I seem to recall this project being on Hasbro's agenda even before the BB movie was announced. It was from the beginning to be a "Pre-Earth" film set on Cybertron, but in the Live Action movieverse. Of course I know the failure of TLK changed a lot of things, but if anything, this news only reminds us that the animated film hasn't been cancelled, as opposed to a new announcement entirely. And yes of course, the 2 or 3 minuets of All CG TF battles being hailed by fans as the best part of the film, doesn't hurt either .

william-james88 wrote:

leokearon wrote:If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity

Why cant it be just a prequel to that opening scene in Bumblebee?

They could be when it send animated, I'm hoping for something like Into the Spider-verse (animated movie separate from Live-Action) where they don't have to be bogged down with continuity

leokearon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

leokearon wrote:If they do a animated Cybertron movie it won't have to be in any continuity

Why cant it be just a prequel to that opening scene in Bumblebee?

They could be when it send animated, I'm hoping for something like Into the Spider-verse (animated movie separate from Live-Action) where they don't have to be bogged down with continuity

Well sure. But have you met this Fandom? Cramming Square Peg Plots into Round Hole Continuities is a Write of Passage for us.

Personally, I was not a fan of the Optimus Prime Comics. I liked it in premise and some of the supporting roles, seeing the Camien perspective of a Prime and even the Autobots’ themselves of the title was neat. But I feel like they took Prime too far afield for me. That said, some of the IDW Prewar stuff, such as the Lost Light story of Prime stealing the Matrix Bomb could lend its style to a Pre-War Cybertron story well enough without overshadowing the Pedestal Prime is usually on. I think Prime’s viewpoint would be a great way to do it, particularly if they started him off as a Laborer and not as a Police Officer, because that would put him in the same situations that Megatron was in. But the Police job gives him more flexaibility to actually do something about it.

Actually, I think Megatron would be the best POV but You risk creating a sympathetic villain. That’s not always a bad thing, but for the Movie going public, you are pretty much told from the start that Megatron is BAD, Like Uber villain. But wouldn’t it be cool if, maybe Megatron was always a bit twisted but Optimus was the one to keep him on the nobler path, and it was Starscream who secretly convinced the Council to make Optimus a Prime, and then started whispering in Megatron’s ear to go full Nutso-cookoo homicidal ragekill? That could be why Screamer manages to stick around despite Megatron’s many backhandings, because he wormed his way into Megatron’s trust and played to his urges, and now Screamer is a bad habit Megs cannot quit.

With how well Bumblebee turned out with its depth on character development and story, I can’t wait to see how they’re going to flesh out Optimus’s character next.

Megatron should be out and out BAD this is where IDW MK1 got the while autobot/deception cause's wrong.
The Primes should all be noble with the exception of the Fallen (liege maximo is a poor idea for a prime)

I fully understand characters with layers but megs and op work well as black and white characters op should be a sweaky clean Captain America type and megs like the red skull.