UK Toyfair 2010 Transformers Advertisement - First Look at Seaspray, Bruticus and More!
Friday, January 29th, 2010 5:42PM CST
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I was taken round by a nice lady. Movie stuff on display including Leader Starscream and Bludgeon. Game tie-in figures from War on Cybertron were on the stand - present were Prime and Bumblebee, Deluxe size is the only price point for this range. Both were in Cybertron vehicle mode.
Picture shows Power Core Combiners. She described them as 5 legend sized figures that combine. They look great.
Battle Ops Bumblebee on show - Price between Leader and Supreme points - £60ish - Looked cool.
RPMs were a surprise, the hot wheel sized cars. New higher price point called Stealth Force. The cars transformed into a battle mode with gun etc, poping out. The Prime was moterized with sound effects. I was told Bay liked this and is planning on using the idea.
As you can tell from the advertisement, we're getting Voyager Seaspray, Movie Deluxe Ironhide, the previously revealed Battle Ops Bumblebee, and Power Core Combiners - which look to include a combiner in the form of Bruticus.
You can check out the article at the Private Universe. If you're also a fan of any other Hasbro related figures, you'll be quite intrigued to take a look!
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Posted by blobatron on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:49pm CST
Posted by First Gen on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:50pm CST
Good work Blurrz, you just beat me to the punch.
Posted by Blurrz on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:50pm CST
blobatron wrote:Looks lik they got rid of the weird blue plasma finger and the pull ring... I hope! And the shoulder cannons appear to fold down. Might have to pick it up. I've got a deluxe shoulder cannon BB and the Ultimate Battle Charged BB, would be nice to have a proper leader size sort.
This Bumblebee looks like the same thing we saw prior to the preview of Battle Ops, but we had to take it down because Hasbro got mad. I'm sure he'll have the pull ring and glowing green stuff...
Posted by Diem on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:52pm CST
I'll wait on the Takara USA Edition to get Seaspray in the proper colours, ta.
Posted by Trikeboy on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:52pm CST
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 29th, 2010 @ 5:57pm CST
Posted by Forgotten on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:00pm CST
SEASPRAY IS AWESOME!! that is all.
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:13pm CST
ANYWAYS WHY DONT THEY MAKE PRIME LIKE THAT HE WAS THE HERO OF BOTH MOVIES
that deluxe ironhide might not be bad
hes supposed to be small
ok here are my sizings that i think they should be
Autobots
prime voyager
ironhide deluxe
ratchet deluxe
bumble and anyone else who turns into a car scout class
stratosphere bigger than supreme (the cargo plane he turns into is bigger than devastator so yeah BIG)
Decepticons
megatron ultra
grindor supreme
starscream leader
long haul ultra
mixmaster voyager
rampage voyager
Posted by Mkall on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:14pm CST
I don't know what to think now.
That seaspray looks cool. I'm hoping for a G1-style repaint though.
I think I'll wait to see more of Bruticus though.
Posted by Hairball178 on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:33pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:48pm CST
Seaspray isn't as eye catching as I had hoped and the feet bug me. Unless that tug-boat has a third creepy merman mode I want nothing to do with it. And I'm straight "geewun" or what ever the hell it is.
Now moving onto the PCCs. I can officially add 2-packs and 5-packs to my list of favorite packs. (previously only 6 & 12 packs)
I'm eager to see what they can do with scout sized target/weapons masters and legends Gestalts kinda gets my nerd implulses going. Can't wait to see more!
BB actually looks cool.
Posted by ConBotFormer on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:49pm CST
Megatronsdemise666 wrote:I HATE BUMBLEBEE THEY SHOULD STOP MAKING THEM
ANYWAYS WHY DONT THEY MAKE PRIME LIKE THAT HE WAS THE HERO OF BOTH MOVIES
that deluxe ironhide might not be bad
hes supposed to be small
ok here are my sizings that i think they should be
Autobots
prime voyager
ironhide deluxe
ratchet deluxe
bumble and anyone else who turns into a car scout class
stratosphere bigger than supreme (the cargo plane he turns into is bigger than devastator so yeah BIG)
Decepticons
megatron ultra
grindor supreme
starscream leader
long haul ultra
mixmaster voyager
rampage voyager
Okay? Why would Prime be a voyager? Are you one of those people that think semi trucks are smaller then you think? I have a friend that still thinks Prime would only be as big as Ironhide. And why would Megatron be an ultra class? And Prime a voyager class? I thought we all wanted these figure to be more size accurate!
Posted by ConBotFormer on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:51pm CST
Posted by Mkall on January 29th, 2010 @ 6:54pm CST
Doubledealer25 wrote:so all of these are ROTF? or is seaspray with the classics? what is bruticus? he is ROTF or classics?
I don't think there'll be a distinction any more.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:00pm CST
Mkall wrote:Doubledealer25 wrote:so all of these are ROTF? or is seaspray with the classics? what is bruticus? he is ROTF or classics?
I don't think there'll be a distinction any more.
uh i dont understand? u mean hasbro is making all TFs all in one series?
Posted by Dclone Soundwave on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:08pm CST
Posted by Mkall on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:09pm CST
Doubledealer25 wrote:Mkall wrote:Doubledealer25 wrote:so all of these are ROTF? or is seaspray with the classics? what is bruticus? he is ROTF or classics?
I don't think there'll be a distinction any more.
uh i dont understand? u mean hasbro is making all TFs all in one series?
Well, they're removing the Revenge of the Fallen name from their packaging, and they haven't made anything official toward a Universe/Classics line again. My thinking is that evverything will be made into one line (Rumours are calling it Transformers: Generations) and it will have the astetics in between Universe 2 and ROTS that the recent ROTF figs like Brawn and Bludgeon are aiming for.
Posted by Blurrz on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:13pm CST
Down_Shift wrote:Ironhide looks very disappointing. I've been wanting a Deluxe Ironhide since I found out about Deluxe Ratchet. I mean it only made sense to me, but that looks very poor. FAB poor.
Then stop wishing for things like that! Wish for more meaningful figures like Deluxe Blurr, and more Deluxe Blurr, and throw in some fembots for my robot harem. Seriously, Hasbro's reading your mind... make your mind want Blurrrr
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:18pm CST
Mkall wrote:Doubledealer25 wrote:Mkall wrote:Doubledealer25 wrote:so all of these are ROTF? or is seaspray with the classics? what is bruticus? he is ROTF or classics?
I don't think there'll be a distinction any more.
uh i dont understand? u mean hasbro is making all TFs all in one series?
Well, they're removing the Revenge of the Fallen name from their packaging, and they haven't made anything official toward a Universe/Classics line again. My thinking is that evverything will be made into one line (Rumours are calling it Transformers: Generations) and it will have the astetics in between Universe 2 and ROTS that the recent ROTF figs like Brawn and Bludgeon are aiming for.
interesting, so they are using one name and mashing together the movie look with the classics look?
Posted by LiKwid on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:19pm CST
Im trippin over the Seaspray, thats too awesome.. G1 colors please
Another BB......FFS enough already... would it kill hasbro to make another cliffjumper? I grow weary of re-painting BB.....
lol blurrz... it shall be done.....
Posted by HeadmasterPrime on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:26pm CST
Posted by Stormrider on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:27pm CST
Posted by Nemesis_Apoc on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:28pm CST
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:30pm CST
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Oh, wow... is that really the Universe Seaspray everyone is freaking about? I gotta say I'm a good bit disappointed.
yeah same here, i was kinda looking forward to seeing it. the other figs pass.
Posted by autobot-jolt on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:51pm CST
*jaw drops slightly*
*confusion*
Well well well. Don't know where to start. Oh yeah, ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN MOVIE LINE ALREADY HASBRO! Gee wizz, can't they finish it up? That says "Autumn/Winter 2010" If they're planning to have RotF going on all of this year, then I'm goin' to be very disapointed indeed. But hey, maybe it'll give me enough time tofind a nice Energon Dreadwing for about $15 (hint, hint, hint) Now for my verdicts on idividual things:
Deluxe Class Ironhide: I thinks it's ok, but Recon is waaaaaaaaaaay better. I don't think I'll get it though. He looks inacurate to the movie and not a lot of fun overall. Too bad, I was hoping Dlx. Ratchet would have a friend. But again, Voyager Ironhide does look better compared to Leader Prime. Anyway...
Voyager Class Seaspray: Why in the name of Vector Sigma is this part of the RotF line? I thought it would be part of a classics line (which, ahem, Hasbro, ahem, you should actually be, ahem, planning for instead). Anyway, he's a bit too beefy and (color wise) dull for me. Another pass.
Battle Ops Bee: Didn't want this anyway. If Hasbro is gonna sell this for, say $60, then I think they're gonna have the same issue as they had with Desrt Tracker Ratchet: poor sales because of price, figure, and nothing new/that good to expect. Again, pass.
New Package Look: This, I must say, actually is the best packaging I've seen in a long time. For this, nice work, Hasbro. But regular old Sideswipe??? He'd better be Premium (though I can't see how much shiner he can get), otherwise this is just a waste of fine packaging.
Power Core Combiners: What the heck is this line doing in RotF? I thought it was going to be a completely new line, but no, it has to be Movie. Really, I'm getting tired of it. Let's move on to something fresh and new, like War for Cybertron, which I'm growing fond of. But, it's a limited line (that's what I heard) and won't have many figures to last us another year. But, Bruticus looks sweet, I have to admit. If the price is right (for the quality we're getting), then I'll pick it up. Hey, it might look good next to Legends Devastator.
I have no more to say, so good night, fellow Seibetronians; autobot-jolt is out.
Posted by guardianprime on January 29th, 2010 @ 7:58pm CST
but anyways im happy to see that he actually has some character to his bulk and am pleased that he is a voyager.
cant say im all that intrested in deluxe ironhide (expecially since i dislike deluxe ratchet)
and im not even going to bother mentioning BB *insert negative comments*
as for bruticus, that shit looks NAAASTY (good way) cant wait to see some more (and better) pics of it! my hopes (that will be let down) are 1 that the 5 pieces are all unique
2 that they are interchangeable with the old energon combiners *fatchance*
and 3 that there are no shitty weapons for hands and feet (good chance)
cant wait to see more of the upcoming line and also for some pics of the new RPMs
Posted by Mkall on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:16pm CST
autobot-jolt wrote:*right eye starts twitching*
*jaw drops slightly*
*confusion*
Well well well. Don't know where to start. Oh yeah, ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN MOVIE LINE ALREADY HASBRO! Gee wizz, can't they finish it up? That says "Autumn/Winter 2010" If they're planning to have RotF going on all of this year, then I'm goin' to be very disapointed indeed. But hey, maybe it'll give me enough time tofind a nice Energon Dreadwing for about $15 (hint, hint, hint) Now for my verdicts on idividual things:
Where on the new packaging does it say that this line is ROTF? It doesn't. ROTF line is done. This is a new line in the same asthetic.
autobot-jolt wrote:Voyager Class Seaspray: Why in the name of Vector Sigma is this part of the RotF line? I thought it would be part of a classics line (which, ahem, Hasbro, ahem, you should actually be, ahem, planning for instead). Anyway, he's a bit too beefy and (color wise) dull for me. Another pass.
Where did Hasbro say that Universe 3 was actually happening, and would be in exactly the same asthetics as the previous line?
autobot-jolt wrote:New Package Look: This, I must say, actually is the best packaging I've seen in a long time. For this, nice work, Hasbro. But regular old Sideswipe??? He'd better be Premium (though I can't see how much shiner he can get), otherwise this is just a waste of fine packaging.
Maybe it's a mock-up? Wouldn't be the first time we've seen new packaging using an older fig as a filler.
autobot-jolt wrote:Power Core Combiners: What the heck is this line doing in RotF? I thought it was going to be a completely new line, but no, it has to be Movie. Really, I'm getting tired of it. Let's move on to something fresh and new, like War for Cybertron, which I'm growing fond of. But, it's a limited line (that's what I heard) and won't have many figures to last us another year. But, Bruticus looks sweet, I have to admit. If the price is right (for the quality we're getting), then I'll pick it up. Hey, it might look good next to Legends Devastator.
Again, show me where it says ROTF on the packaging.
Posted by zenosaurus_x on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:23pm CST
This "SeaSpray" guy looks cool though, and so does that big combiner at the bottom of the page.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:42pm CST
I don't really like the movie aestetic, so this is kinda bad news for me, I suppose. Still, there's plenty of pricey products out there that fit my bill, so I can't say I'm too bummed out. But the pictures are so, so small. The figures might look nicer at a better size.
Posted by Autobot032 on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:44pm CST
Deluxe Ironhide: Pass.
Voyager Seaspray: Maybe.
Battle Ops Bumblebee: Pass.
Powercore Bruticus: Maybe.
Powercore Huffer: Maybe.
Figures being repacked and resold: Meh.
I'll wait for ToyFair in February (which will have clearer pictures and include video) before making my final decisions on these, but so far...I'm seriously unimpressed.
Fortunately, we'll see the end of Animated (Arcee and Ratchet rock, btw.), we'll have War For Cybertron toys (and they look to be rather incredible), and with this new "one size fits all" packaging, we should see the return of Universe 3.0, and Powercore might be worth a shot, but Bruticus looks to be one ugly sumbitch so far. =\
I...dunno.
So, there will be something for everyone, I just think the Powercore line is a bit...unnecessary. Especially when you see FansProject's Bruticus set...geez that thing is incredible.
Posted by Samsonator on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:53pm CST
ConBotFormer wrote:Buldgened
Anyway, the thing I'm most excited about, movie aesthetic or not, is the PCCs, Multiple combinations? Hellz yeah! A Dlx Ironhide will, like Ratchet, make a nice stand in for the larger one that I never got.
- Sam
Posted by autobot-jolt on January 29th, 2010 @ 8:58pm CST
Mkall wrote:autobot-jolt wrote:*right eye starts twitching*
*jaw drops slightly*
*confusion*
Well well well. Don't know where to start. Oh yeah, ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN MOVIE LINE ALREADY HASBRO! Gee wizz, can't they finish it up? That says "Autumn/Winter 2010" If they're planning to have RotF going on all of this year, then I'm goin' to be very disapointed indeed. But hey, maybe it'll give me enough time to find a nice Energon Dreadwing for about $15 (hint, hint, hint) Now for my verdicts on idividual things:
Where on the new packaging does it say that this line is ROTF? It doesn't. ROTF line is done. This is a new line in the same asthetic.
Ok, Got me there.autobot-jolt wrote:Voyager Class Seaspray: Why in the name of Vector Sigma is this part of the RotF line? I thought it would be part of a classics line (which, ahem, Hasbro, ahem, you should actually be, ahem, planning for instead). Anyway, he's a bit too beefy and (color wise) dull for me. Another pass.
Where did Hasbro say that Universe 3 was actually happening, and would be in exactly the same asthetics as the previous line?
I was just saying, they should be working on something like it. Also, in an earlier news post, they were hinting at a Universe 3.0 (or something like it, but not quite).autobot-jolt wrote:New Package Look: This, I must say, actually is the best packaging I've seen in a long time. For this, nice work, Hasbro. But regular old Sideswipe??? He'd better be Premium (though I can't see how much shiner he can get), otherwise this is just a waste of fine packaging.
Maybe it's a mock-up? Wouldn't be the first time we've seen new packaging using an older fig as a filler.
That's the first time I've seen it, but I'll keep an eye out for it in the future. Got me there too, but I still like the packaging design.autobot-jolt wrote:Power Core Combiners: What the heck is this line doing in RotF? I thought it was going to be a completely new line, but no, it has to be Movie. Really, I'm getting tired of it. Let's move on to something fresh and new, like War for Cybertron, which I'm growing fond of. But, it's a limited line (that's what I heard) and won't have many figures to last us another year. But, Bruticus looks sweet, I have to admit. If the price is right (for the quality we're getting), then I'll pick it up. Hey, it might look good next to Legends Devastator.
Again, show me where it says ROTF on the packaging.
Again, got me there too. I'm sorry, I'm just freaking out a bit (ok, A LOT) I just am anxious to see new info on upcoming lines.
Posted by Valandar on January 29th, 2010 @ 9:22pm CST
Also, it looks like it has working knees, hips, and shoulders. Dunno about elbows, but one can hope...
Posted by PrimeFan on January 29th, 2010 @ 9:49pm CST
Mkall wrote:Where did Hasbro say that Universe 3 was actually happening, and would be in exactly the same asthetics as the previous line?
Ummm.. from Seibertron's own Q&A from December.
Seibertron.com: Setting aside the 2 limited G1 Reissues released recently this year, how does Hasbro plan to reach out to the adult collector market? With Alternators not planned for the near future, the homage based Classics "on hold", and no further Special Edition figures announced (didn't Overkill, Dragstrip, Megatron, and Optimus Prime sell well?), there appears to be more incentive for adult collectors to purchase reissues and other more targeted merchandise from outside import vendors and '3rd party' companies. Why has Hasbrotoyshop.com not established a collector service to provide Encore, Alternity, and Masterpiece figures in the same manner that MattyCollector is attending to their adult fan-base? Where are the previously seen 'Red Classics Mirage', and upgraded Classics Cliffjumper going to appear (theorized to be next in line as Special Edition toys)? Is there anything in the plans that caters more to the Transformer collector market, rather than just the whole of the Transformers brand market?
Hasbro: We think one of the reasons it may feel like there's not as much collector-specific products is that we are right in the middle of the "movie madness" and we haven't made any formal announcements for the Fall 2010 line and exclusives. We continue to look for opportunities to bring out the G1 re-issue characters that haven't been released as re-issues before or do them in a new, different way. We are trying to avoid releasing the same versions that were released in 2003/2004. We will continue to find these opportunities (like we did with Soundwave at Comic Con in 2009... hint hint). We will continue to bring Masterpiece toys as retailer exclusives where appropriate - there will be one in 2010. And as discussed at BotCon, we will be continuing the "Classics/Universe" toys in the back half of 2010 with a new name (it won't be called Universe 3.0, but that's the idea). In addition we also try to include fan favorites in the movie line like Bludgeon and Brawn as well as assortments like the Human Alliance assortment.
Posted by UltraPrimal on January 29th, 2010 @ 9:50pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on January 29th, 2010 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by Jacob P. Galvatron on January 29th, 2010 @ 10:37pm CST
I love me some Ironhide, but I've already got two perfectly good voyager figures.
I wonder why they're pushing Ratchet and Ironhide down a size class.
Will more characters follow?
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:02pm CST
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:09pm CST
the reason why is because HASBRO says megatron is be bigger than prime
hasbro even says primes 28 feet tall and megatron is 34 feet tall and what ever hasbro says is correct
dont go by the film(and besides the special feature disc from the rotf movie even says megatron is taller)
and dude that truck prime turns into is only 14 feet is not that big
Posted by zenosaurus_x on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:14pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:33pm CST
PrimeFan wrote:Mkall wrote:Where did Hasbro say that Universe 3 was actually happening, and would be in exactly the same asthetics as the previous line?
Ummm.. from Seibertron's own Q&A from December.And as discussed at BotCon, we will be continuing the "Classics/Universe" toys in the back half of 2010 with a new name (it won't be called Universe 3.0, but that's the idea).
So you highlighted and underlined the part that said it wasn't Universe 3.0? That was your argument against it?
Nothing is confirmed yet. What we do know is that it will be a hybrid of movie and fan wank. Like Seaspray and that wee Bruticus.
Blurrz wrote:
Then stop wishing for things like that! Wish for more meaningful figures like Deluxe Blurr, and more Deluxe Blurr, and throw in some fembots for my robot harem. Seriously, Hasbro's reading your mind... make your mind want Blurrrr
blurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrlblurrboobsblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrboobsblurr
blurrblurrblurrkatiperryblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrblurrtacobellblurrblurrblurr
moreboobsblurr.
I'm doing my best here... your Blurr figures may have a rounder then normal chest, look hot in a a show girl outfit and may also come with nacho cheese. Like I said, I'm doing my best. For you bro, for you.
Posted by Valandar on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:41pm CST
Megatronsdemise666 wrote:and dude that truck prime turns into is only 14 feet is not that big
Umm... no. A Peterbilt 379 (the model he turns into) is a LOT longer than 14 feet. Its wheelbase alone (which is significantly shorter than the full length of the vehicle) is 216 inches, or 18 feet. The total length of the vehicle is probably closer to 24 feet.
Posted by zenosaurus_x on January 29th, 2010 @ 11:54pm CST
Blurrz wrote:
Seriously, Hasbro's reading your mind... make your mind want Blurrrr
If they're reading my mind then....LeaderBlackoutUltraBoneCrusherLeadrrBlackoutUltraBoneCrusher...ok fine, Deluxe Blurr.....
Posted by Valandar on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:00am CST
Posted by Blurrz on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:10am CST
causeallyourblurrsbelongtomehahahahaha
Posted by Warbreaker on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:20am CST
Can't wait for Power Core Combiners, a very promising line with the superior-than-before minicon gimmickiness
Seaspray looks quite nice and bulky, but that flat bed at the back of his alt-mode looks to become a flat pane of bot-mode kibble. Deluxe Ironhide - can't really see the details on him properly.
Battle Ops Bumblebee - he looks set to be very close to being a Masterpiece Movie Bumblebee - I wouldn't mind picking him though I already have a HA Bee and 2007 concept Bee. Should've seen the look on my little cousin's face when I showed him the pics of BOBB.
All in all, everything's nice
Posted by PrimeFan on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:32am CST
Down_Shift wrote:PrimeFan wrote:Mkall wrote:Where did Hasbro say that Universe 3 was actually happening, and would be in exactly the same asthetics as the previous line?
Ummm.. from Seibertron's own Q&A from December.And as discussed at BotCon, we will be continuing the "Classics/Universe" toys in the back half of 2010 with a new name (it won't be called Universe 3.0, but that's the idea).
So you highlighted and underlined the part that said it wasn't Universe 3.0? That was your argument against it?
You're right, it won't be called Universe 3.0. My argument isn't about what its going to be called, it's about whether or not the Classics/Universe line is even returning. Mkall stated that Hasbro hasn't announced its return and that he believes the movie aesthetics will be used for future toys. As you can read, they clearly state that they are "continuing the Classics/Universe toys". That to me, means that it'll share the same aesthetics as Classics and Universe. And not that of the movie.
So for all intents and purposes, Universe 3(Classics/Universe) is happening, it just won't be called that. That's my argument.
Posted by Mkall on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:36am CST
PrimeFan wrote:You're right, it won't be called Universe 3.0. My argument isn't about what its going to be called, it's about whether or not the Classics/Universe line is even returning. Mkall stated that Hasbro hasn't announced its return and that he believes the movie aesthetics will be used for future toys. As you can read, they clearly state that they are "continuing the Classics/Universe toys". That to me, means that it'll share the same aesthetics as Classics and Universe. And not that of the movie.
So for all intents and purposes, Universe 3(Classics/Universe) is happening, it just won't be called that. That's my argument.
If that happens, I will gladly eat my words, then buy the entire line.
However I'm calling it based on what I've seen so far. And it's far too early for either one of us to be right. We each got arguments to stand on, and evidence to back it up. For the time being though I'm willing to wait and see.
Posted by PrimeFan on January 30th, 2010 @ 12:43am CST
And I agree, we've only seen a sampling of Hasbro's product for the fall. The upcoming Toy Fair, but more likely Botcon, will reveal more of what's to come.
Posted by redguyver on January 30th, 2010 @ 1:27am CST