Unite Warriors Bruticus Teaser with Blast-off Shuttle mode confirmed

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

That shoulder sho nuff looks like a shuttle nose to me.

Not a new Vortex, but he has 4 rotors now.

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

Fucking better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

Agreed. $100 on an import site beats $160+ at BBTS. Every time.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment

GHAAARGH! We are at 50 50 now. UW 1-3 were wide releases but 4-6 were exclusive. There was no rhyme or reason to it. I hope it goes back to wide releases.

I will now have 7 "Classics" Onslaughts.... (Though 2 are more "Generations" using the FoC mold.)

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment

GHAAARGH! We are at 50 50 now. UW 1-3 were wide releases but 4-6 were exclusive. There was no rhyme or reason to it. I hope it goes back to wide releases.

That o/p set is exclusive? wow, what an underwhelming joke

Quite the day for Combiner Wars related news.

Decepticon Alpha Bravo has been upgraded

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Decepticon Alpha Bravo has been upgraded

Va'al will be pleased

I love how the background is basically an explosion.

Microraptor wrote:I love how the background is basically an explosion.

Seems appropriate

I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

Shockwave7 wrote:I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

I must admit, I am interested in a Vortex that isn't an exact clone of A/B or Blades, wonder if they might change his cockpit shells too, it's easy enough

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

I must admit, I am interested in a Vortex that isn't an exact clone of A/B or Blades, wonder if they might change his cockpit shells too, it's easy enough

From the silhouette it looks like the only the rotor has been changes. The back is the same, the arms may be different, but the font looks to be the same, with the nose cone becoming the arm modes' Cocktail cuff.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

I must admit, I am interested in a Vortex that isn't an exact clone of A/B or Blades, wonder if they might change his cockpit shells too, it's easy enough

From the silhouette it looks like the only the rotor has been changes. The back is the same, the arms may be different, but the font looks to be the same, with the nose cone becoming the arm modes' Cocktail cuff.

Yeah, I wasn't insinuating that they changed the transformation, rather, they mold new shells to look like a different helicopter and keep the transformation

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

I must admit, I am interested in a Vortex that isn't an exact clone of A/B or Blades, wonder if they might change his cockpit shells too, it's easy enough

From the silhouette it looks like the only the rotor has been changes. The back is the same, the arms may be different, but the font looks to be the same, with the nose cone becoming the arm modes' Cocktail cuff.

Yeah, I wasn't insinuating that they changed the transformation, rather, they mold new shells to look like a different helicopter and keep the transformation

I know allot about Alpha Bravo in arm mode, I was trying to argue that the silhouette, with the exception of rotor, matches those of Alpha Bravo. The standard arm mounted missiles can be seen on vortex's right arm, and it has the same rounded canopy cuffs.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I admit - I want these Takara Blastoff/Vortex versions. Looking forward to them!

I must admit, I am interested in a Vortex that isn't an exact clone of A/B or Blades, wonder if they might change his cockpit shells too, it's easy enough

From the silhouette it looks like the only the rotor has been changes. The back is the same, the arms may be different, but the font looks to be the same, with the nose cone becoming the arm modes' Cocktail cuff.

Yeah, I wasn't insinuating that they changed the transformation, rather, they mold new shells to look like a different helicopter and keep the transformation

I know allot about Alpha Bravo in arm mode, I was trying to argue that the silhouette, with the exception of rotor, matches those of Alpha Bravo. The standard arm mounted missiles can be seen on vortex's right arm, and it has the same rounded canopy cuffs.

Okay I'll take your word for it ; I haven't used my copter-bots since I got their replacements. I guess it's still possible the upper part of cockpit is different, but I'll just give up hope now.

Will watch this with interest

It's far enough out that they could also completely 'fix' Brawls torso too

Hellscream9999 wrote:It's far enough out that they could also completely 'fix' Brawls torso too

I was going to say "You can't fix what isn't broken" but then I remembered Devastar.

I can't wait to collect UW Bruticus as long as it's not an exclusive i don't want to pay extra just because of that, Blast Off should always be a shuttle hmm but any word on fixing Brawl though it would be nice if they did

fenrir72 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Put UW Defensor together tonight. Streetwise's hips are incredibly loose so my streak with that mold continues, and the torso suffers from some bad combiner lean when you raise the arms. At least the Hasbro version of Hot Spot lasted a day or two.

Try ratcheting up the hips one notch backwards, though that in turn gives him the backward lean syndrome.

That's what I've had to do with every single torso bot I have. Some can last a day or two before leaning forward. This version of Hot Spot was really bad.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Devastator just came. And I think I just did too.

I only have ten minutes to check him out before I go to work. Almost there, baby. Soon.

I legit just fell out of my chair laughing. Good job!

Having the set for about a week now I have some more thoughts on Devastator:

1) Scrapper, Mixmaster, and Hook KILL IT. These are the best figures of the set. Long Haul, Bonecrusher, and Scavenger are nice but there's just something missing. Bonecrusher and Scavenger are the weakest basically due to a lanky design in the legs. The G1 weapons and extra joints DO make a major difference.

2) Long Haul, Scrapper, and Mixmaster combine super tight. There's been a few times where I forget where the legs end and Long Haul begins. Hook pegs in well but there's a gap, its covered by the chest plate, but it's there.

3) I'm concerned about how Scavenger and Bonecrusher attach to Hook as arms. There's no springs or a release for the clips so it's all friction. I'm concerned over time the ports or clips breaking. Scavenger doesn't peg in as tightly as it looks in the instructions, and without the chest piece securing things droops a tad.

Haven't gotten to merging Devastar yet. About the gap, compared to the 3rd party Devs (do you also own one?) might they also have that gap (feedback appreciated if you own a 3rd party to compare as I don't own any of them)?

Don't have a 3rd party one but from pics I've seen the gap is meant to be there.

A proper Blast-Off and an extra rotor on Vortex? With all that done I'll be OK if they don't fix Brawl and give a proper cannon back pack to Onslaught.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Not a new Vortex, but he has 4 rotors now.

Noticed that too. 4 rotors...please TT, also retool Vortex's cab to at least look like a HinD

There is a Primus!

Don't make him be a limited exclusive PLEASE!

UW Bruticus will be so mine!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Decepticon Alpha Bravo has been upgraded

Va'al will be pleased

PRAISE THE CHOPPAH!

Interesting, blast off was always my favourite of the combaticons but sadly my g1 version never made it. So while final judgement will wait to the proper reveal, I like what I see so far.

I do hope UW Bruticus is not a 200$ something-whatever exclusive.

Awww yis. I think I may have to bite on this, provided I've cleared out some space and have the money by the time pre-orders go up.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

Exclusive in what way ? Unite Warriors Defensor is in stock everywhere. I dont think there is a collector alive who wanted this set but couldnt obtain it. The only thing "exclusive" thing about the Defensor set was the higher price. Just cause they slap a "Takara Mall" monkier on it doesnt mean a thing. Its a mass release intended for those who dont mind spending an extra 30 bucks for a real Groove.

Ill be all over this takara bruticus no matter what monkier they slap on it. On a side note, the "work in progress" slapped on his chest leads me to believe they might be shooting for a cartoon accurate chest shield transformation that intergrates with blast offs shuttle wings. That would be so freaking awesome !

I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

Rated X wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

Exclusive in what way ? Unite Warriors Defensor is in stock everywhere. I dont think there is a collector alive who wanted this set but couldnt obtain it. The only thing "exclusive" thing about the Defensor set was the higher price. Just cause they slap a "Takara Mall" monkier on it doesnt mean a thing. Its a mass release intended for those who dont mind spending an extra 30 bucks for a real Groove.

Ill be all over this takara bruticus no matter what monkier they slap on it. On a side note, the "work in progress" slapped on his chest leads me to believe they might be shooting for a cartoon accurate chest shield transformation that intergrates with blast offs shuttle wings. That would be so freaking awesome !

Exclusive meaning it would cost more to obtain it since we<d have to go through another party than a direct takara seller.

Exclusive these days doesnt mean we cant get, just that it would end up costing more. And of course, we<d always preffer for it to cost less. So more like UW Superion and less like UW Defensor.

And its not an extra 30$ for everyone.

UW Superion cost me 116$ US shipped (from Japan to canada)
UW Defensor would cost me 212$US shipped (from BBTS to canada)

So It being TTMall exclusive ends up costing me 100$ more US. I would VERY MUCH want to avoid that since I cant afford spending 100$ extra for this.

william-james88 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

Exclusive in what way ? Unite Warriors Defensor is in stock everywhere. I dont think there is a collector alive who wanted this set but couldnt obtain it. The only thing "exclusive" thing about the Defensor set was the higher price. Just cause they slap a "Takara Mall" monkier on it doesnt mean a thing. Its a mass release intended for those who dont mind spending an extra 30 bucks for a real Groove.

Ill be all over this takara bruticus no matter what monkier they slap on it. On a side note, the "work in progress" slapped on his chest leads me to believe they might be shooting for a cartoon accurate chest shield transformation that intergrates with blast offs shuttle wings. That would be so freaking awesome !

Exclusive meaning it would cost more to obtain it since we<d have to go through another party than a direct takara seller.

Exclusive these days doesnt mean we cant get, just that it would end up costing more. And of course, we<d always preffer for it to cost less. So more like UW Superion and less like UW Defensor.

And its not an extra 30$ for everyone.

UW Superion cost me 116$ US shipped (from Japan to canada)
UW Defensor would cost me 212$US shipped (from BBTS to canada)

So It being TTMall exclusive ends up costing me 100$ more US. I would VERY MUCH want to avoid that since I cant afford spending 100$ extra for this.

It's that time of the year again.........

Back to Bruticus, I was just checking the propeller clearance for Blades in Guardian. Two blades have enough clearance in limb mode but if the silhouette of Vortex is indeed accurate with "four" blades, then TT might be adding an extra "mm" on the connector to allow for clearance. That might mean a major re-tool and not just the typical TT pimping of the mold. Here's hoping this also applies to the cockpit too

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!!

So glad I waited for the Takara version.

But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.

Exclusive in what way ? Unite Warriors Defensor is in stock everywhere. I dont think there is a collector alive who wanted this set but couldnt obtain it. The only thing "exclusive" thing about the Defensor set was the higher price. Just cause they slap a "Takara Mall" monkier on it doesnt mean a thing. Its a mass release intended for those who dont mind spending an extra 30 bucks for a real Groove.

Ill be all over this takara bruticus no matter what monkier they slap on it. On a side note, the "work in progress" slapped on his chest leads me to believe they might be shooting for a cartoon accurate chest shield transformation that intergrates with blast offs shuttle wings. That would be so freaking awesome !

Exclusive meaning it would cost more to obtain it since we<d have to go through another party than a direct takara seller.

Exclusive these days doesnt mean we cant get, just that it would end up costing more. And of course, we<d always preffer for it to cost less. So more like UW Superion and less like UW Defensor.

And its not an extra 30$ for everyone.

UW Superion cost me 116$ US shipped (from Japan to canada)
UW Defensor would cost me 212$US shipped (from BBTS to canada)

So It being TTMall exclusive ends up costing me 100$ more US. I would VERY MUCH want to avoid that since I cant afford spending 100$ extra for this.

It's that time of the year again.........

Indeed. Where X is a billionaire and think every TF collector is.

I totally understand the nostalgia factor involved with this, but I never in my adulthood got on board with Blast Off being a space shuttle. Sure, it fits the character's name, but not the theme of the group. I know it's a rather unpopular opinion to have, but that and the obvious scale issue made me welcome the jet version for CW Brute, just like Legends class Groove with CW Defensor (although I still like the design of Deluxe Groove, and I hope it gets retooled for Afterburner, who can be any size he wants as an alien motorcycle).

Glarryg

I hope Takara goes for something like this:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

The vintage 1986 bruticus toy uses a chest plate that does nothing and does not intragrate which I know drives you bananas. At least the cartoon chestplate attempts a form of parts integration. Im suprised you wouldnt support that.

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

The vintage 1986 bruticus toy uses a chest plate that does nothing and does not intragrate which I know drives you bananas. At least the cartoon chestplate attempts a form of parts integration. Im suprised you wouldnt support that.

Except that, on Bruticus's animation model, Blast Off still has his wings folded onto his arm mode like on toy.



Those little brown flaps on the Blast Off forearm are the shuttle's wings.

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

The vintage 1986 bruticus toy uses a chest plate that does nothing and does not intragrate which I know drives you bananas. At least the cartoon chestplate attempts a form of parts integration. Im suprised you wouldnt support that.

Indeed, but the CW toy manages to replicate the look of the chestplate without actually using a separate piece, so you have the best of both worlds. Plus, the only ways to achieve the cartoon-accurate shuttle chest wing would be either fake kibble (which sucks) or removing bits of Blast Off and sticking them on the chest (which would potentially affect structural integrity and would have to either be comically huge on Blast Off or pathetically small on Bruticus.

So in short? No. Toy accuracy all the way.

Delta Magnus wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

The vintage 1986 bruticus toy uses a chest plate that does nothing and does not intragrate which I know drives you bananas. At least the cartoon chestplate attempts a form of parts integration. Im suprised you wouldnt support that.

Indeed, but the CW toy manages to replicate the look of the chestplate without actually using a separate piece, so you have the best of both worlds. Plus, the only ways to achieve the cartoon-accurate shuttle chest wing would be either fake kibble (which sucks) or removing bits of Blast Off and sticking them on the chest (which would potentially affect structural integrity and would have to either be comically huge on Blast Off or pathetically small on Bruticus.

So in short? No. Toy accuracy all the way.

how about something like this

Ultra Markus wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope not. Bruticus' cartoon model was ugly as sin and completely inaccurate to the (far nicer looking) toys. Grey chest all the way.

The vintage 1986 bruticus toy uses a chest plate that does nothing and does not intragrate which I know drives you bananas. At least the cartoon chestplate attempts a form of parts integration. Im suprised you wouldnt support that.

Indeed, but the CW toy manages to replicate the look of the chestplate without actually using a separate piece, so you have the best of both worlds. Plus, the only ways to achieve the cartoon-accurate shuttle chest wing would be either fake kibble (which sucks) or removing bits of Blast Off and sticking them on the chest (which would potentially affect structural integrity and would have to either be comically huge on Blast Off or pathetically small on Bruticus.

So in short? No. Toy accuracy all the way.

how about something like this

Combiner_Bruticus.jpg

Combiner_Bruticus.jpg

Eh, I guess. I still prefer the grey chest piece. It makes him look more cohesive.

The question of what they will do to Vortex' rotors comes to mind if they really have four blades. On the Alpha Bravo/Blades/Vortex mold, the blades/rotor are all attached to that dongly flappy bit, which only can tilt up and down just enough to let it stay out of the way of all the other parts while transforming.

In arm/leg/robot mode, the rear rotors are in the way so that the main rotors can't spin. The best thing to do is fold in the blades and rotate up, then tuck the blades between the fins of the rear rotor so they don't flop around anywhere.

With the Takara version, it looks like all four main rotors will be unfolded. The rear tail rotor fins will be in the way so they can't spin around without bumping into something. If that dongly, flappy bit is still used to anchor the main rotors, options will be limited. Obviously, folding all four main rotor blades would cause.... issues.

Oh yes - and hopefully, Takara will do something to fix Brawl's infamous flapping crotch issues.

Glarryg wrote:I totally understand the nostalgia factor involved with this, but I never in my adulthood got on board with Blast Off being a space shuttle. Sure, it fits the character's name, but not the theme of the group. I know it's a rather unpopular opinion to have, but that and the obvious scale issue made me welcome the jet version for CW Brute, just like Legends class Groove with CW Defensor (although I still like the design of Deluxe Groove, and I hope it gets retooled for Afterburner, who can be any size he wants as an alien motorcycle).

Glarryg

Already confirmed thats gonna happen on Hasbro's side. Here is out first look at afterburner for CW Computron:

Agamemnon wrote:I hope Takara goes for something like this:

Or something similar to Six-wing's right arm.

Blastoff being a jet doesn't really bother me, but given the choice I'd take the shuttle any day, even if it makes no sense both in scale and COMBATicon senses. Geewun, baybay!

Also cool if they're giving Vortex a more accurate rotor, but I'd really rather, if they were to retool something, have them "fix" Onslaught's big back cannon. It just bugs me that it's made of straight recolors of Hotspot's guns stuck to a new part. I understand it'd probably be a more expensive change, but hey, I'm just wishing over here.

Nerd rage in 3,2,1...Hasbro and Takara are in kahoots!!! Hasbro releases the Protectobots without a deluxe Groove, then Takara later announces it will be producing a deluxe Groove. After Hasbro releases the Combaticons, it is now announced Takara will release a proper Blastoff.
I know I should've expected this but...#$%&!...I already went all in with Hasbro's Combaticons.

Likeits1985 wrote:Nerd rage in 3,2,1...Hasbro and Takara are in kahoots!!! Hasbro releases the Protectobots without a deluxe Groove, then Takara later announces it will be producing a deluxe Groove. After Hasbro releases the Combaticons, it is now announced Takara will release a proper Blastoff.
I know I should've expected this but...#$%&!...I already went all in with Hasbro's Combaticons.

Except in all likelihood, the groove was probably in the planning stages for use as the technobot; but TT may have chosen to use it as Groove once the option was available, not sure about shuttle-off and the 4-prop vortex

Maybe it would've killed them to give the victorion twins the 4-prop rotor piece

Today is a good day! I ordered Devastar. Amiami had him on backorder, so I did some digging. I was a little discouraged by the results at first. All the US retailers had him at around $220 (a fair price), with or without free shipping. HLJ and 1999 (Japan-based retailers) both had prices higher than Amiami's. But I kept searching and I found that not only did Nippon-Yassan have him for under 20,000 yen, they had him for 17,180 yen, which is less even than Amiami's listed price of 18,730 yen. With EMS shipping he came out to just under $200 USD after conversion, and he should be here by week's end. Oh happy day!

If you want to get him, the listing is here.

I don't think Rubber has to decay - heck I don't think in many cases it even is rubber just a soft plastic - O-rings are usually actually rubber so they will got tail up eventually - I've been looking through my really Old Action Force/Gi Joe and I only had 3 or 4 really floppy ones and 1 that had broken, curiously the much newer Sonic-viper Figure had gone really floppy but the 1982/83 stuff was still fine - different materials supplier later on perhaps.

Either that Or I just hadn't kept them near a radiator, all my Visionaries & Cops figures are fine too.

Anyway regarding rubber tires - I had an Inferno where the tire separated along the mould line. but I've NEVER had any crumble - the closest to any noticeable harm I've noticed is some 2nd hand Junker 2001 RID Autobot cars have tires that look pock marked but They were not mine so I have no idea if someone left them in full sun or by a radiator (all my own original Car Robots ones are fine, so are the Universe ones) none of my G1 toys tires are damaged at all - even junker Minibots, heck even a badly light damaged Beachcomber I've got has perfect tires.

The worst thing I can think of is the surface of the hose on my radioshack style Grey KO Shockwave has gone a little grey looking.

I suspect if you live in say Arizona you will suffer problems if you live in say Norway then not so much.

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Speaking of Unite Warriors Defensor is the Chinese / Hong Kong edition out yet ?
I recall it being announced but never noticed if it actually came out.