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Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover

Wednesday, January 15th, 2014 6:47PM CST

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Courtesy of IDW Publishing's Twitter feed we have an upcoming post Dark Cybertron cover featuring Hasbro's Fan Built Bot winner Windblade! Check out the art below by Casey Collier and Joana Lafuente.

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Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1548372)
Posted by Blurrz on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:14pm CST
That Blurr des needs a toy.
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Posted by emptythreat on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:19pm CST
A pass. No issue with fembots but not a fan of either the way they're being shoehorned into this corner of the IDWverse which is genderless. I probably also wouldn't have been as annoyed by it had the author not made some odious comments attempting to speak on behalf of all women. Had this been a Prime book or Animated no-one (including me) would have found even the slightest amount to react to. And on top of that those Stone sketches look awful. I realise they're just sketches but...
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Posted by No One on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:32pm CST
WHERE have I seen a story about FIVE new airplane characters dropped into a centuries long war that wasn't theirs. Who were new to Cybertron, and also had to figure out who was who the hard way? (Cough G1 cartoon Cough)
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:47pm CST
I don't mean to sound sexist or anything, but does anyone else notice that both Starscream and Blurr have more feminine figures than Chromia?
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Posted by kaijuguy19 on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:54pm CST
Windblade's personalty so far seems interesting. I can imagine this is where the conflict between her and Screamer came to be.

I'm digging the drawings Sarah Stone made too. They seem to be a blend of IDW and TFP in a good way. I like how Chromia's supposed vehicle window acts like a riot shield.
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Posted by Coptur on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:55pm CST
Empty threat you're odious and who're you to say how a woman can comment on other women. They look like boys and girls to me and most other people

I'm looking forward to it and I think it'll fun
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Posted by Mkall on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:58pm CST
If Chromia's toy looks similar to that sketch, I'll be a happy Mkall
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Posted by kirbenvost on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:04pm CST
I'm interested to see how this series (and character) turns out. As I'm collecting all of the main IDW continuity, I'll definitely be picking it up.

Chromia looks awesome. I hope that's similar to the upcoming Deluxe figure. :D

I do agree Starscream & Blurr look more feminine than usual, but out of all the characters that could be drawn that way, they're most fitting. What I like most about all of these designs is that they scream personality. Definitely looking forward to this. :)
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Posted by Manterax Prime on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:08pm CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I don't mean to sound sexist or anything, but does anyone else notice that both Starscream and Blurr have more feminine figures than Chromia?


I believe these are merely concept art as Chromia's form in the comics greatly differs from what we see here. For now at least. It may be she gets a new altmode and a new body structure to go w/ it just like Windblade.
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Posted by Banjo-Tron on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:18pm CST
All talk of gender aside, this Windblade character makes Drift look not quite so utterly, utterly cliched and beneath contempt in comparison. It's like bad fanfic accidentally given the green light. I love these versions of Chromia and Blurr however.
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Posted by ZackRoyer on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:26pm CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I don't mean to sound sexist or anything, but does anyone else notice that both Starscream and Blurr have more feminine figures than Chromia?


Me too, But I was afraid to say it and be raged to death.
Nothing against feminine designs but, either you change completely the gender (I don't like it, but some people do) or you maintain original character proportion (look at that starscream head, what the flick!)

They look like Kpop singers.
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Posted by Mindmaster on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:35pm CST
So I'm the only one that (at least) sorta likes that Starscream design? Bummer. :-(

Though I will say I don't care for the proportions of his wings. That's really all that bothers me.

I'm liking Chromia's design. I don't know what else to say besides that without being awkward.
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Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:47pm CST
I love how Starscream looks in that sketch. I wish the toy pulled of that look so well.
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Posted by Noideaforaname on February 6th, 2014 @ 2:03pm CST
Image
It's kinda like Armada and Prime Starscreams had a baby. =P~

Chromia's transformation looks like it'd be pretty lazy. Fold the body into a box-ish shape, snap the windshield (HA!) on top, and done.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CST
MR Optimus Prime wrote:WHERE have I seen a story about FIVE new airplane characters dropped into a centuries long war that wasn't theirs. Who were new to Cybertron, and also had to figure out who was who the hard way? (Cough G1 cartoon Cough)
Well, it sure is a darn good thing we won't be getting THAT story anytime soon since the war here has been good and over for a while now and Windblade's being dropped into the AFTERMATH of the war that wasn't hers.
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Posted by Hero Alpha on February 6th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CST
That Blur looks awesome, maybe a tad bit too much hips, but cool looking. Windblade looks a lot like the WFC Shockwave with turbines and painted face head EDIT: Oh yea and metal boobs. Maybe its just me.
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Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on February 6th, 2014 @ 10:21pm CST
Blurrz wrote:That Blurr des needs a toy.

Agreed.
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Posted by Henry921 on February 6th, 2014 @ 11:00pm CST
So it seems this'll be Windblade opposing Starscream in some form; possibly while he's still more or less in charge of Cybertron.

That premise sounds interesting, and while I'm not thrilled with all of her comments, I do think Scott has her strengths as a writer...

...damn it all, I guess I'll read the comic included with the Windblade figure.
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Posted by Down_Shift on February 6th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CST
Meh. Those designs are too far gone for my tastes. Sure Chromia looks feminine, but Starscream and Blurr look feminine too which makes them look ridiculous.

If this arc is anything like ROTD then I'm out. That whole thing stunk from top to bottom.
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:15am CST
I do like the way she looks here though, Chromia I mean, not Windblade (still gonna pop her head off and put something else there if I can). I really hope we get a Chromia figure. Transformers is REALLY lacking in female characters that aren't Arcee and Blackarachnia.
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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:20am CST
To my anime-accustomed eyes at least, SS and Blurr seem to have generic "bishonen" (pretty boy) physiques and faces.

Chromia looks rather tomboyish, but it works.

From what I've seen of Windblade, not exactly a fan of the overall design.

No comment on the story, as I don't read the comics.
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Posted by Darth Jumpy on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:23am CST
I am getting real interested in this. The writer wrote several episodes for Prime that made Miko fun and likable, which is quite an accomplishment.

Though I hope that they reveal why there are now more female Transformers in the IDW universe pretty soon, if not in this series. I just want a better explanation than none.
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Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2014 @ 4:19am CST
Darth Jumpy wrote:I am getting real interested in this. The writer wrote several episodes for Prime that made Miko fun and likable, which is quite an accomplishment.

Though I hope that they reveal why there are now more female Transformers in the IDW universe pretty soon, if not in this series. I just want a better explanation than none.


The Windblade mini-series will address exactly that: where do Windblade, Chromia and Nautica come from, and why do we only find out about them now? :D
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Posted by Mindmaster on February 7th, 2014 @ 9:59am CST
Va'al wrote:...where do Windblade, Chromia and Nautica come from, and why do we only find out about them now?


Didn't you know?

It was definitely wizard aliens. >:oP

You haven't been maintaining your atandarfs. Son, I am disappoint. [-(
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Posted by Va'al on March 3rd, 2014 @ 12:42pm CST
We have already heard about new fan-built Transformers character Windblade, but comics news website ComicBookResources was also able to have a chat with writer Mairghread Scott about what's to come in the four-issue mini-series set on Cybertron! Read excerpts below, and the whole thing here.

In the wake of the "Dark Cybertron" crossover, the various Transformers are in disarray. And things are about to get even more interesting for the characters, as writer Mairghread Scott and artist Sarah Stone -- the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series -- will soon be hitting them with the imminent arrival of Windblade.

The first "fan-built bot" created through a number of polls on Hasbro's website, Windblade's design, features and abilities were all decided by the general public and brought to life by Hasbro designer Lenny Panzica. The sword-wielding, jet-powered female Transformer looks set to cause a whole load of trouble for the rest of Cyberton's sons and daughters in her own four-issue, self-titled miniseries due to kick off in April. Scott spoke to CBR about her plans for the character -- and just what her arrival means for IDW Publishing's Transformers Universe as a whole.


CBR News: Windblade arrived in the IDW Transformers continuity during the recent "Dark Cybertron" crossover event. Following that story, what kind of state are the Autobots and Decepticons in as this miniseries kicks off? How are they recovering -- or not -- from the event?

Mairghread Scott: I don't think it spoils anything to say that things get a little, well -- dark by the end of "Dark Cybertron" and the whole event has very much demoralized the entire planet. Fighting an endless war is tiring, but there are only so many times you can rebuild your home-world before you start to feel like things just aren't gonna get any better.

But, in a way, this is also the perfect time to introduce a new character like Windblade because she's seeing so many things for the first time. There's an old saying that "evil triumphs when good men do nothing," and "Transformers Windblade" is just as much about the danger of staying on the sidelines as it is about evil itself.

[...]

She was created after winning a fan-poll from Hasbro which asked fan to help create a new character. How exciting was it to have the chance to introduce and establish a character into continuity?

It was extremely exciting. The moment they announced Windblade, I told John Barber that I was calling dibs on her if she made it to the comics. It's nice to see that still works. But, in all seriousness, it really is amazing to feel like Sarah and I are getting to make a little bit of Transformers history. We get to bring in a whole new character (and hopefully a new readership) to our favorite brand; we're pulling out all the stops to make sure Windblade earns a spot in Transformers for a long time to come.

[...]

There are other female Transformers, but the majority of them are identified as male. Are you interested in writing and exploring that in this series? Do the other characters treat her differently for being a female, or do they not even notice?

Obviously, Starscream's gonna use any kind of wedge issue he can -- because he's Starscream.

But Cybertronians in general are less interested in that kind of thing, and that's something I really love about the brand. Think about it: If you're fighting another Transformer, it's a lot more crucial to know what they turn into (tank, jet, flash drive) than what pronoun they use. Characters who don't know Windblade are obviously curious about who she is, but who she is, is so much more than "female."
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Posted by 1984forever on March 3rd, 2014 @ 5:39pm CST
I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!
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Posted by Treetop Maximus on March 3rd, 2014 @ 7:16pm CST
>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
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Posted by Flashwave on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:42pm CST
84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!


That never phased Victory Saber, being a jet.or Silverbolt. Ooh! Powerglide, he was a plane too!

Also, some of us enjoy the societal workings of Cybertron. These are living aliens, they have a culture, even if it does revolve around killing eachother. Lets see what lifexand death means to them, and what. The universe means to them. Lets have some thoughtful, deep Star Trek type moments. We've done the "Megatron turns into a gun. Megatron shoots Optimus Prime! Itsnot very effective..." schtick over... and over... and over... again and again and again...
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Posted by Mindmaster on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:47pm CST
84forever wrote:stuff


Dude, not cool. Please refrain from using that kind of language here on Seibertron.com. Remember, we have youngin's posting here too. Keep it classy, not crass-y.

First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron?


I would name every Autobot flier I could think of, but we'd be here for days. >:oP

Well, not literally, but you get the point.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:53pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!


That never phased Victory Saber, being a jet.or Silverbolt. Ooh! Powerglide, he was a plane too!
Mindmaster wrote:
First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron?


I would name every Autobot flier I could think of, but we'd be here for days. >:oP

Well, not literally, but you get the point.
Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide. :roll:
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Posted by Real Cool Guy on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:57pm CST
84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!


Hey did you know that female characters in comics can be there for, I dunno, reasons that aren't T&A? That Autobots aren't just cars? The underlying misogyny in your post is pretty appalling. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself.

Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.


This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.

I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.
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Posted by Burn on March 3rd, 2014 @ 10:02pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide. :roll:


Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.
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Posted by Dead Metal on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:55am CST
Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide. :roll:


Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.

But it's true, he actually stated so himself the last time he posted on a topic and it'S in his name.
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Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:00am CST
Real Cool Guy wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.


This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.

I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.


Not to mention that Scott is a good writer. Look at the first two issues of Beast Hunters (which were really not that meh at all), look at the Prime episodes she wrote: 'Chain of Command', 'Hard Knocks', 'Hurt', 'Orion Pax: Part 2', 'Stronger, Faster'.

And yes, the fact that it's the first ever all female creator team on a Transformers comic is important. In 30 years of the franchise, this is the first time! Do you know how many women are in the fandom? Do you know how many women have only had a handful of characters to relate to, and no writers? This is a massive step in the right direction, and one that every fan should welcome. :D
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Posted by Dead Metal on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:12am CST
Va'al wrote:
Real Cool Guy wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.


This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.

I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.


Not to mention that Scott is a good writer. Look at the first two issues of Beast Hunters (which were really not that meh at all), look at the Prime episodes she wrote: 'Chain of Command', 'Hard Knocks', 'Hurt', 'Orion Pax: Part 2', 'Stronger, Faster'.

And yes, the fact that it's the first ever all female creator team on a Transformers comic is important. In 30 years of the franchise, this is the first time! Do you know how many women are in the fandom? Do you know how many women have only had a handful of characters to relate to, and no writers? This is a massive step in the right direction, and one that every fan should welcome. :D

Yup, I went a little mental yesterday and bought all the TF Prime FOC related collections on comixology just to check out her writing. Sure not all are her's but I want to know what came before her's.
Plus Grimlock'Ss always awesome.
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Posted by Henry921 on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:42am CST
Scott has talent; of that I have no doubt. But she can be hit and miss, as evidenced by the latter issues of Beast Hunters and even as early as Chapter 3 of Rage of the Dinobots, where her story either goes off the rails or includes a false conclusion or a plot twist that doesn't actually go anywhere (looking at you, Ser-Ket coming back to life only to die again two pages later). I do think she has a very solid grasp of the characters and her dialogue is always good, but the story structure doesn't always mesh coherently.

Whatever Hasbro edicts are in place for Windblade may be hindering her further... :-?

Since I'm planning on getting the toy, I'll read the first issue of the miniseries and decide whether or not to get the TPB afterwards. >:oP


And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
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Posted by Banjo-Tron on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:58am CST
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.

Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts 8)
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Posted by Real Cool Guy on March 4th, 2014 @ 9:28am CST
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.

Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts 8)


Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.

Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.

Edit: Another thing I want to address is the idea of an authors gender/race/etc not making a difference to stories about fantastic or otherworldly things, and I think I would have to politely disagree. I mean, the same argument could be made that stories about fire breathing space robot dinosaurs don't need in-depth political and social structures that resemble, in parts, things that have happened on earth. But they did, and it's been fantastic for the brand. So it wouldn't surprise me if Barber/Roberts/Roche/etc had an interest in social and political history that helped shape and influence the direction of the universe they are creating. Now that gender (in an alien environment not too dissimilar to our own) is going to be tackled, I think it makes total sense to get someone who has experience in being another gender, with being an outsider for something they did not choose. I'm not saying that Scott is a good fit BECAUSE she is a woman, but I do believe that being a woman will really help in telling an interesting story.

Or not who knows laffo
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Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 11:25am CST
Hey, speak for yourselves. I am a fan and I had nothing to do with this so called "fan built" abomination they call a Transformer. The damn thing looks like some sort of human being rather than a transformer. It belongs in the realm of Bayformers, not IDW.
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Posted by Hero Alpha on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:01pm CST
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.


I agree, just give us good stories without shoving PC down our throats. I just like Transformer stories I don't care who writes them.
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Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:02pm CST
The poll was public.

And for the record, Windblade, Chromia and Nautica have been brought into the franchise by (male) writers Barber and Roberts. Scott is the (female) writer in charge of the mini-series.
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Posted by Noideaforaname on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:25pm CST
"Shoving PC down our throats" is kinda unavoidable when the comics have had an embargo on female robots for so long then suddenly have to give a (brand new, non-Arcee) female robot the spotlight.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554923)
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:26pm CST
Real Cool Guy wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.

Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts 8)


Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.

Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.


Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.

Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.

And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554951)
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:16pm CST
Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide. :roll:


Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.




I tried to tell you all that Sabrblade and Dead Metal have issues with anything that one posts that contradict their opinions. They just cannot let it go when someone says something they do not like.

You two need to back off of people. They have the right to their opinion just as much as you do without being attacked because they do not share your opinion. Kinda like you did with me, remember? It is a real turnoff to come here, read story after story, and see you two rail people for thinking differently from you.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554954)
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:21pm CST
Hero Alpha wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series

Don't care.

Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.


I agree, just give us good stories without shoving PC down our throats. I just like Transformer stories I don't care who writes them.



Ditto. More good stories. We get enough PC crap from the media.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554956)
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:24pm CST
Va'al wrote:
Real Cool Guy wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.

Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts 8)


Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.

Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.


Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.

Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.

And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.



Yeah, but if they didn't do this on purpose then why are they saying it in the first place. It is sexist in itself to make such declarations, by definition. I don't care if a girl or guy writes it, only if it is a good story. For some reason they are plugging the female team thing, and to me that is to help sales. If their writing is good enough, then it should stand on its own. Not because it is the "first female" anything.

My personal opinion is that having a Arcee called a "fembot" is ridiculous. Robots do not have a gender. I mean, this should be a no brainer to me. Arcee is not a fembot. Or a girl. Female. Whatever. It is a pink robot. An IT. Not a she.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554963)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:50pm CST
Gender =/= sex.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554975)
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:37pm CST
shockblast2 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Real Cool Guy wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.

Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts 8)


Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.

Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.


Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.

Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.

And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.



Yeah, but if they didn't do this on purpose then why are they saying it in the first place. It is sexist in itself to make such declarations, by definition. I don't care if a girl or guy writes it, only if it is a good story. For some reason they are plugging the female team thing, and to me that is to help sales. If their writing is good enough, then it should stand on its own. Not because it is the "first female" anything.

My personal opinion is that having a Arcee called a "fembot" is ridiculous. Robots do not have a gender. I mean, this should be a no brainer to me. Arcee is not a fembot. Or a girl. Female. Whatever. It is a pink robot. An IT. Not a she.


No.

It is because of a sexist society, power dynamics and patriarchal norms that a statement like that stands out and is inevitable. If there were no issues with disparity of genders, race, sex, age, ability, language, belief, there would be no need to point it out.

Every time I see comments reacting negatively to any news like this, one question springs to mind: what are you all afraid of or worried about? Is there a serious concern that this will steal something away from you?


Also, shockblast2: If a moderator calls someone out for a comment, you do not add to that message with your own comment, especially if you're attacking the users that have just been warned.
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554989)
Posted by Banjo-Tron on March 4th, 2014 @ 4:19pm CST
I would just like to point out that I am not missing any 'point', I just have a different opinion about what constitutes equality. It's a bit sneakily disparaging to basically say that people who don't see things the same way as you don't 'get it' Va'al. Naughty Va'al >:oP
Re: Upcoming IDW Publishing Windblade Cover (1554996)
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 4:38pm CST
Banjo-Tron wrote:I would just like to point out that I am not missing any 'point', I just have a different opinion about what constitutes equality. It's a bit sneakily disparaging to basically say that people who don't see things the same way as you don't 'get it' Va'al. Naughty Va'al >:oP


Nope. We agree on what constitutes equality, obviously. (I'd be surprised if there were multiple interpretations of 'equal', other than the Orwellian one.)

I disagree with you on the fact that we are not there yet. And that is the point you and others are not getting. I'm not saying that you disagree with me therefore you're wrong, I'm pointing out that you seem to think there is no inequality at play a) in society, b) in the comics industry, c) in the Transformers franchise.

And that is just not true. Examples of diversity gaps below.

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London Review of Book inequality in contributors and reviewed works: http://forbookssake.net/2013/06/24/find ... -of-books/

Women in comics in December 2013 and year review: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/02/28/ ... in-review/

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