Upcoming Takara Tomy Transformers Studio Series, Movie Masterpiece, and More

Yay, lots of new Studio figures look forward to even if we are getting more into repaint territory.

We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well

ZeroWolf wrote:We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well

I expect RotF Starscream to come with the same backdrop pic as Megatron and Prime have done already but that kinda makes sense since they were all involved in that forest battle and I'm still gonna buy that Screamer anyways cos I love the mold and want that toy with the tattoos I like a lot too and the buzzsaw.

That's an awful lot of stuff coming out all at once in October for Japanese fans. Glad Hasbro spreads things out a little more.

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A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.

No doubt its Takara's numbering, since Hasbro's 13 is Megatron, and Takara has already released him as 11.

So that mystery 13 is something else.

And seeing 14 as another Ratchet, and 18 another starscream, it seems Takara is doing its own thing now which we may not get in Hasbro's line at all or if we do it will have a very different number.

Greetings All,

While I am not collecting these toys, I am quite fascinated by the numbering system. I was just wondering however...

On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream? (which I imagine would get its own number, even if it is a straight up repaint) or is this just an error on unicron.com ?

o.supreme wrote:On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream?

Yeah, I wrote an article about it:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... bel/41092/

^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)

As for

their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.

o.supreme wrote:^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)

As for

their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.

Hasbro and Takara Tomy are releasing the same exact figures now. We have heard no news on the contrary since the unification!

So is getting Thundercracker?

o.supreme wrote:So is getting Thundercracker?

Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So is getting Thundercracker?

Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!

Wait, really? I cant belive I forgot that

I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.

ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.

That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.

Now I am confused as I looked at tformers Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.

ZeroWolf wrote:Now I am confused as I looked at tformers Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.

Store exclusives are fair game like all regular retail items, but releasing them and how is still up to TakaraTomy's discretion and how they can find proper venues.

Main point remains the toys themselves have no differences between the two companies, that's the only thing the whole streamlining has done. The lines are not treated the same, to take PotP again as an example, the toys were released out of order, with the complete combiner teams released in single waves and the retools at the very end of the line.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.

That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.

As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro

Overcracker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.

That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:

1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout

9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)

10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)

14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"

19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???

21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)

Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.

Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.

As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro

Thanks for the correction.

As with Brawl, Megatron and Jazz, while Studio Series wave 2 has hit a few retailers, there is little talk about them. They have yet to reach saturation and their higher prices at several retailers might make them less obvious to own. I have a pictorial review for every toy of Wave 2 so far so I thought I would complete that with Lockdown. As with every other toy in this wave (and line), there is a lot to like but it is also far from perfect.

The first thing I would like to get out of the way is that unlike what it seemed at first, this is not a tall deluxe. For the life of me I could not find his previous deluxe in my collection bins, so I have a comparison to a bunch of other toys instead to show you what I mean.















People had wondered if this was a retool of Cogman but it isn't. It is as similar to Cogman as it is to TLK Barricade, which are all shellformers with the feet in the back and the torso at the front. That is basically where the similarities end. Unlike Cogman, I found Lockdown to have an uninventive transformation for a shellformer.







While the backpack does fold into itself, it is still pretty big and definitely takes away from the silhouette the robot mode sculpting promises. It doesn't help him feel more boxy and wide than he should be, which is already conveyed with his truncated neck and wide arms. About the arms, I do not know why they chose to have the upper arm be actual car mode detail rather than sculpting some robot mode detail under that piece and making it face that way. it just looks off. Yes, they do add these flip out robot mode detail launchers and while it is a good idea, it is not done well. They have a very flimsy connection and can easily pop off.











The weapons are fine. No gun face, but we do get the hook. We also get a Sword/Blaster (something very common in Age of Extinction) but he cant hold it as a blaster. Both weapons can be hooked onto the outside of the forearms, which is also where they can be hooked on in vehicle mode.









The sculpting is clearly the best part though. Too bad the deco doesn't highlight as much as I would like, they don't even paint the Lamborghini symbol split across his chest.







While the face sculpt is nice, the expression they gave him is that of massive boredom. To the point that it can really get in the way of a cool scene.



I don't have any issue with the car mode. I like that they painted the tail lights but I would have really liked that they gave some detail to the Lamborghini symbol in the front, like they had done with last year's Hot Rod.











So in the end it's a great sculpt and cool car mode, definitely better than the previous attempt. However this is still a very typical shellformer at a scale that doesn't really help me. The nice sculpting hides away the fact that this toy doesn't accomplish much aside from looking good in a few areas, making it feel more like a mild improvement over the definite version of a character. Add that to a the lackluster deco and this is another example of a movie toy in the Studio Series line that doesn't feel more "premium" than any other movie toy from previous lines. He is fine but it's not a toy I think I will go back to often (until I have an accompanying Optimus).