Video Review for Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-42 Godbomber
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Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2017 @ 6:09am CDT
Can't wait to get this guy. I'm glad he transformers and isn't just pull him all apart to make him a robot like the original. Surprised the helmet is separate. I figured it would have been like the other leader class figures and have it attached
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on May 27th, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 27th, 2017 @ 10:03am CDT
Godbomber's toy is taller than a Leader class.Munkky wrote:Godbomber looks like a lot of fun, I don't know much about Japanese G1, but I might try getting a Godbomber for the Combiner compatibility. A Hasbro version would be great as well, hopefully Hasbro can sneak him into Wave 6 of the Titans Return Voyagers if he can fit into a Voyager box.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on May 27th, 2017 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Professor Smooth on May 27th, 2017 @ 11:05am CDT
The trailer mode looks pretty great. But the baffling way that the cannon attaches means it's always loose. In fact, looseness is something a LOT of this guy suffers from. And that's a shame, because there are a LOT of moving parts to deal with. Parts split, have bits removed and swapped about, then reconnect. And it's hard to get any kind of "leverage" when every joint is about as stable as a strand from a Pull n Peel Twizzler.
The base mode is apparently obligatory, but does nothing of any worth.
The robot mode surprised me in how underwhelming it was. I mean, I get that this is a figure that has to do a LOT (unlike the original) but the Masterpiece-level engineering just serves to highlight some of the major shortcomings of the toy.
God Ginrai looks great, but is INCREDIBLY unbalanced. The combination of extra weight and unreliable joints do the combined mode no favors. A bit like Car Robots' God Fire Convoy in that regard. Only even less stable.
Also, I found out there was a minor manufacturing error with my Super Ginrai that made attaching one of the feet impossible. A bit of minor surgery fixed that issue. And speaking of the feet, this does make the awful feet from Super Ginrai look a bit more tolerable.
I *really* don't like how the wings look in the combined mode. They just sit too high for my taste.
Godbomber set me back about $48. And I definitely feel I got that money's worth. I had a lot of problems with it (more than any TF I can remember buying, in fact) but between this, Legends Fort Max, and MP Star Saber, I've got a pretty nice set of modern Takara Cybertron leaders. Here's hoping for DaiAtlas somewhere down the line.
Edit: Here's a quick look at it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyAPZzqaAVs
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 27th, 2017 @ 12:10pm CDT
Couldn't you poole the absolute best engineering into this one? -sigh- Well if you can hear me Takara you push the next wave of LG figures forward for release and I will forgive you for this one!
Posted by Professor Smooth on May 27th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Damnation I was hoping this to be near flawless as far as stability goes! I'm getting this despite the flaws shown but c'mon Takara really!
Couldn't you poole the absolute best engineering into this one? -sigh- Well if you can hear me Takara you push the next wave of LG figures forward for release and I will forgive you for this one!
Back in the old days, we handled stability issues with a bit of nail polish.
I really don't mean to diminish Godbomber. The engineering is outright incredible for a $50 toy. I can't say enough how deceptively complex it is. It's just...heavy and loose.
An aside: I wouldn't be surprised to see a giftset version of God Ginrai released within in the next year or so. Probably with some chrome (which I can take or leave) and some fixes done to improve stability. The God Ginrai boxed set is iconic here in Japan. It wouldn't be out-of-character for TakTom to milk it a bit. Even the recent Kabaya kit payed homage to that wonderful bit of Masterforce.
Posted by Kurona on May 27th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
★ Tokyo Toy Show 2017 Transformer Information ★
Tokyo Toy Show 2017 will be held at Tokyo Big Sight on Saturday, June 3rd and Sunday, 4th!
At the Takara Tomy booth, Transformers exhibitions and events, etc.,
We have plenty of fun plans, so please come and visit!
■■ Toy Show 2017 Topics ■■
★ Part 1: Exhibit the real car trailer of "Optimus Prime"! It is!
A real car trailer of Optimus Prime with a total length of 9 m will come to the Transformer booth!
Do not miss this opportunity you can see nearby!
Please take a picture together and make memories that came to visit the toy show!
★ Part 2: Exhibition corner of plenty of new products and collaborative products in the movie series! It is!
There are lots of new product exhibits of "Transformers · Last Knight's Series" that will be showcasing for the first time at the toy show !
Please come and see the newly joined Transformers' colleagues!
Au × TRANSFOMERS PROJECT
We released it only for cloud funding, and received a lot of support
"INFOBAR OPTIMUS PRIME (NISHIKIGOI)" "INFOBAR MEGATRON (BUILDING)"
"INFOBAR BUMBLEBEE (ICHIMATSU)" exhibition will also be done!
Au × TRANSFOMERS PROJECT
http://time-space.kddi.com/au-transform ... s_krl_0059
※ Cloud funding acceptance has been terminated.
★ Part 3: Holding a "Speed Change" series experience experience! It is!
I will do a hands-on meeting of the instantaneous deformation "speed change" series that can reproduce the scene of a movie!
Please take this opportunity to experience deformation for a moment!
※ The subjects will be children until elementary school students. Please note.
★ Part 4: BIG guests also appeared! It is! Special stage with plenty of content! It is!
June 4 (Sun) From 11 o'clock Tomy (TakaraTomy) booth Front stage holds a special stage of Transformers!
AMEMIYA familiar with "I started chilling in the cold" appeared as a special guest!
There are quiz conferences where you can receive luxury prizes and photography sessions of costumes of Optimus Prime, and there are plenty of contents!
Of course, there is also the first public stage of the annual special information, so please join everyone excitedly!
※ Event schedule, contents subject to change without notice. Please note.
★ Part 5: Hurry! It is! Toy show holding commemoration commodity release! It is!
■ Product Name: LG-EX Black Convoy
■ Toy Show Venue Special Price: 6,000 yen (tax included)
※ It will be sold at the maximum number of up to 2 for each customer's accounting.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on May 27th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 27th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
im going to try to fanmode the hell out of it to get those wings to sit lower
i hope
Posted by Kurona on May 27th, 2017 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on May 27th, 2017 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Rainmaker on May 27th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CDT
Rainmaker wrote:Does Legends Wheelie have the same tabbing problem as TR Wheelie?
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 27th, 2017 @ 4:57pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on May 27th, 2017 @ 5:43pm CDT
Mine is much tighter, but if there's enough wear on the tabs over time I'm sure it could begin to have some of those same issues.Rainmaker wrote:Does Legends Wheelie have the same tabbing problem as TR Wheelie?
Posted by ExciKaiser on May 27th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CDT
Rainmaker wrote:Rainmaker wrote:Does Legends Wheelie have the same tabbing problem as TR Wheelie?
I'm not sure how bad TR is, by my legends is definitely bad. Just looking at it mades him disassemble.
Posted by william-james88 on May 27th, 2017 @ 6:29pm CDT
Professor Smooth wrote:Godbomber arrived today and WOW is it one heck of a mixed bag.
The trailer mode looks pretty great. But the baffling way that the cannon attaches means it's always loose. In fact, looseness is something a LOT of this guy suffers from. And that's a shame, because there are a LOT of moving parts to deal with. Parts split, have bits removed and swapped about, then reconnect. And it's hard to get any kind of "leverage" when every joint is about as stable as a strand from a Pull n Peel Twizzler.
The base mode is apparently obligatory, but does nothing of any worth.
The robot mode surprised me in how underwhelming it was. I mean, I get that this is a figure that has to do a LOT (unlike the original) but the Masterpiece-level engineering just serves to highlight some of the major shortcomings of the toy.
God Ginrai looks great, but is INCREDIBLY unbalanced. The combination of extra weight and unreliable joints do the combined mode no favors. A bit like Car Robots' God Fire Convoy in that regard. Only even less stable.
Also, I found out there was a minor manufacturing error with my Super Ginrai that made attaching one of the feet impossible. A bit of minor surgery fixed that issue. And speaking of the feet, this does make the awful feet from Super Ginrai look a bit more tolerable.
I *really* don't like how the wings look in the combined mode. They just sit too high for my taste.
Godbomber set me back about $48. And I definitely feel I got that money's worth. I had a lot of problems with it (more than any TF I can remember buying, in fact) but between this, Legends Fort Max, and MP Star Saber, I've got a pretty nice set of modern Takara Cybertron leaders. Here's hoping for DaiAtlas somewhere down the line.
Posted by Kurona on May 27th, 2017 @ 6:45pm CDT
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on May 27th, 2017 @ 6:46pm CDT
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 27th, 2017 @ 7:23pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on May 27th, 2017 @ 7:35pm CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:04pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
wait for Harbo's release in giftset.
Posted by kurthy on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:06pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
Fly to Tokyo and pick one up for about 50 USD? Even shipping SAL from Amiami cost me 65 USD so my guess is no if you want to shop US.
Posted by nycPrime on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:08pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
wait for Harbo's release in giftset.
I was afraid of that answer lol
Posted by Kurona on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:21pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
wait for Harbo's release in giftset.
If that happens... if. It's not like Hasbro hasn't skipped out on obvious opportunities before.
Posted by ExciKaiser on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CDT
Kurona wrote:ExciKaiser wrote:nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
wait for Harbo's release in giftset.
If that happens... if. It's not like Hasbro hasn't skipped out on obvious opportunities before.
They promised two more giftsets added to Velocytron and Cybertron. As there's ginrai in one, there's necessary Godbomber in one of the two incoming.
Posted by Kurona on May 27th, 2017 @ 8:40pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:Kurona wrote:ExciKaiser wrote:nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
wait for Harbo's release in giftset.
If that happens... if. It's not like Hasbro hasn't skipped out on obvious opportunities before.
They promised two more giftsets added to Velocytron and Cybertron. As there's ginrai in one, there's necessary Godbomber in one of the two incoming.
Not necessarily, no. It's obvious, but there's a lot of obvious things Hasbro doesn't seem fit to do. Fact is we just don't know at this point. For all we know we could get a recoloured Sky Shadow as Dai Atlas instead.
Posted by Professor Smooth on May 27th, 2017 @ 9:37pm CDT
kurthy wrote:nycPrime wrote:Are there any ways of getting this for less than the $70 the major US online retailers are asking?
Fly to Tokyo and pick one up for about 50 USD? Even shipping SAL from Amiami cost me 65 USD so my guess is no if you want to shop US.
Even that's unlikely. The thing sold out nearly everywhere. It was 7,000+ yen on Amazon Japan within a few weeks of pre-orders going up.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 27th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2017 @ 11:53pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Yuck. No crappy Facebook videos, please. They can't really be shared/casted easily. Anyone got any normal, regular, "plays nice with others" YouTube videos of these figures, please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAN4dgen5wc&t=0s
Posted by Sabrblade on May 27th, 2017 @ 11:58pm CDT
Right here - https://twitter.com/tagoal/status/868172044352888832Kurona wrote:So we've all seen Godbomber wearing CW/UW limbs - and that's friggin' awesome and amazing. But when are we gonna get those pics of a CW/UW torso wearing his legs?
And here's an alternate configuration for God Ginrai to put his wings lower - https://twitter.com/Alfes2010/status/868415514141274112
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 28th, 2017 @ 12:02am CDT
Randomhero wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Yuck. No crappy Facebook videos, please. They can't really be shared/casted easily. Anyone got any normal, regular, "plays nice with others" YouTube videos of these figures, please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAN4dgen5wc&t=0s
Cheers, I already watched that one. Wotafa was being cheeky and hasn't uploaded the combined mode video yet...
I just downloaded the Facebook one and will cast that later to my console.
My actual toy should be waiting for me when I get home in a few hours, after having Vietnamese food with my French friend and Japanese girlfriend in Japan and then a party full of other Japanese women.
Life is good.
Posted by RAR on May 28th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
I like some of the features ; such as the head, the triple cockpit, the Headmaster (in both modes) and the general look of the robot.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2017 @ 1:08am CDT
RAR wrote:It's a shame they never made Energon Optimus inspired Combiner Limbs for the Red Optimus - as then those would be a great complement to this guy.
CW Nosecone and Alpha Bravo will get you half
I like some of the features ; such as the head, the triple cockpit, the Headmaster (in both modes) and the general look of the robot.
On the flipside, I don't really care for the helmet being a separate piece. And am I the only who keeps thinking "don't break it, don't break it" upon watching the transformation? Especially the wings freak me out
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 28th, 2017 @ 1:16am CDT
Rainmaker wrote:Does Legends Wheelie have the same tabbing problem as TR Wheelie?
On the whole yes, there are a few who've gotten lucky but for the most part, it's a floppy mess. I think it has to do more with the overall design, if you want it I think the figure goes for fairly cheap.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 28th, 2017 @ 2:05am CDT
RAR wrote:It's a shame they never made Energon Optimus inspired Combiner Limbs for the Red Optimus - as then those would be a great complement to this guy.
I like some of the features ; such as the head, the triple cockpit, the Headmaster (in both modes) and the general look of the robot.
Considering that mold had the Energon Optimus matrix style inner chest, I agree. They could have repainted a helicopter, spaceship (for the submarine) and drill tank and made easy money. A repaint of Galvatron as Energon Megatron would have been great, too.
Posted by Professor Smooth on May 28th, 2017 @ 2:24am CDT
Posted by Kurona on May 28th, 2017 @ 5:49am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Right here - https://twitter.com/tagoal/status/868172044352888832Kurona wrote:So we've all seen Godbomber wearing CW/UW limbs - and that's friggin' awesome and amazing. But when are we gonna get those pics of a CW/UW torso wearing his legs?
... woah. That works better than I thought.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on May 28th, 2017 @ 6:31am CDT
I wonder if the final version of Targetmaster Roddy's True Firebolt will be different than the one in the pictures. I won't hold my breath but it'd be nice to see it come to pass even if I'm not personally out to buy him. Speaking of Roddy, still wondering if we've had any shots of the underside of his car mode.
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 28th, 2017 @ 10:57am CDT
Thanks- just what I wanted to see, although somehow this makes it harder to pull the trigger on buying this. God Ginrai is about the most solid brick ever. I think if I dropped him off the roof, the missile might launch but that's it. The legends version... not so much
I know there's some easy fixes for it, but I hate fiddly transformers. That, and the legends version is missing all of that delicious chrome....
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 28th, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2017 @ 2:29pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Right here - https://twitter.com/tagoal/status/868172044352888832Kurona wrote:So we've all seen Godbomber wearing CW/UW limbs - and that's friggin' awesome and amazing. But when are we gonna get those pics of a CW/UW torso wearing his legs?
Sabrblade wrote:And here's an alternate configuration for God Ginrai to put his wings lower - https://twitter.com/Alfes2010/status/868415514141274112
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on May 29th, 2017 @ 1:55am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I think the height level of the wings works honestly. I think they should have given a bit more on the wingspan IMO...'nuff said!
I wasn't thinking about the height so much as the positioning. The original toy, and thus the show design, had them mounted to the shoulders. Sticking them in the back like this does can make them seem especially stubby from certain angles, kinda like cheap dinky costume wings.
Looks good all the same. Who wants to put money down on the time til Takara announces a Legends Fire Guts God Ginrai set?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 29th, 2017 @ 2:08am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:I think the height level of the wings works honestly. I think they should have given a bit more on the wingspan IMO...'nuff said!
I wasn't thinking about the height so much as the positioning. The original toy, and thus the show design, had them mounted to the shoulders. Sticking them in the back like this does can make them seem especially stubby from certain angles, kinda like cheap dinky costume wings.
They were on the backpack/Godbomber's torso, on the toy and the show design. The latter did have them move with the arms at times I believe. Plus, there's alternate configuration with fewer pieces that places the wings on the arms proper.
Looks good all the same. Who wants to put money down on the time til Takara announces a Legends Fire Guts God Ginrai set?
I'd almost say that's a given, if TakaraTomy can justify a set with two Leader Class toys. Anybody remember what that RotF Optimus Prime & Jetfire set went for?
Posted by Professor Smooth on May 29th, 2017 @ 8:58am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
I'd almost say that's a given, if TakaraTomy can justify a set with two Leader Class toys. Anybody remember what that RotF Optimus Prime & Jetfire set went for?
I believe it was 15,000 yen. It sold out almost immediately. I was on vacation when it was released and they were completely gone by the time I returned a week later.
TakaraTomy has had absolutely zero issues with releasing high-dollar figures over the past few years. A Fire Guts giftset wouldn't surprise me. But I still think we'll see an homage to the Masterforce giftset w/ chrome and a few other new paint apps in the near future. Maybe around Christmas.
By the by, I should mention that the side-by-side picture I posted has MF God Ginrai in an alternate transformation. The official one attaches the wings to the backpack and the fists an inch or so up the arms (making both VERY stubby).
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:37am CDT
https://twitter.com/BEE6210/status/868325290904137728/
Side and back pics:
From this video review:
Posted by Kurona on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:38am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:40am CDT
See the post above yours.Kurona wrote:Aside from certain misgivings about the toy's visual identity - the wing placement,
Posted by Kurona on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:45am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:See the post above yours.Kurona wrote:Aside from certain misgivings about the toy's visual identity - the wing placement,
That does help a lot, can't believe that timing
Still, it's not just the wings - the whole thing just looks a bit off to me. Not the design itself - God Ginrai has always looked pretty damn awesome. But this toy just seems all over the place and not very aesthetically pleasing. Godbomber on his own seems a lot more fun.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 29th, 2017 @ 10:54am CDT
So as far as official CHUG scale Ginrais/PMOPs go, we're kinda out of luck. I know MakeToys is doing a PMOP/GG if you're OK with the increased price and it being a 3P figure (no need to worry about QC, as MakeToys knocks HasTak into a cocked hat).