Video Review - Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack

I think it's a big stretch to call the face an Animated homage. I don't think the two look similar in the least.

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm not crazy about making every bot with a faceplate have a "real" face underneath -- or rather the implication that there's a certain "normal" for Transformers and anything that doesn't fit NEEDS an explanation -- but this is fun! A neat little hidden detail and an Animated homage. A shame, though, about the giant hole in his head...

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder... what face would be behind THIS mask?

A speaker mouth? Not surprising alright.

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm not crazy about making every bot with a faceplate have a "real" face underneath -- or rather the implication that there's a certain "normal" for Transformers and anything that doesn't fit NEEDS an explanation -- but this is fun! A neat little hidden detail and an Animated homage. A shame, though, about the giant hole in his head...

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder... what face would be behind THIS mask?

Sabrblade wrote:

Woah, did you guys deliver!

In this video, shows wheeljack amazingly good, a must have!

Unnecessary. It also doesn't look so good neither.

MarkNL wrote:

What does that icon mean? Pardon my ignorance.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm not crazy about making every bot with a faceplate have a "real" face underneath -- or rather the implication that there's a certain "normal" for Transformers and anything that doesn't fit NEEDS an explanation -- but this is fun! A neat little hidden detail and an Animated homage. A shame, though, about the giant hole in his head...

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder... what face would be behind THIS mask?

Sabrblade wrote:

Woah, did you guys deliver!

I recall it correctly, even Frank Springer rendered Soundwave in one panel during their "reactivation" with a mouth in Marvel Comic's "More than Meets the Eye #1" then suddenly in the next panel............with a mouth plate. Go figure.

But in Jose Delbo's case, he might have mistook the curved beak like pattern in the original Soundwave toy's mouth plate as a mouth. he did the same with the Seekers having only one "ear"

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:It's cool to see how much Takara has been stepping it up. The MP line is going strong!

Now how about some more G1 Decepticons?

Megatron=check
Seekers=check
Cassettes=check
Soundwave=check
Exhaust=check

Next in line? G1 season 1......Redesigned Megatron, Reflector, Shockwave, Insecticons, Coneheads, Dezaras?

Now that the cat's out of the bag, do you think Exhaust will also sport a hidden face?

The Coneheads and Reflector would be amazing, infact you can take my money now!

fenrir72 wrote:

MarkNL wrote:

What does that icon mean? Pardon my ignorance.

You on your phone? Because it shows as a weird icon on phones indeed, I just checked it.
On the PC it shows Live Action Movie Optimus with the text "GIVE ME YOUR FACE".

The net is trolling me for some reason... Sorry for the confusion.

MarkNL wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

MarkNL wrote:

What does that icon mean? Pardon my ignorance.

You on your phone? Because it shows as a weird icon on phones indeed, I just checked it.
On the PC it shows Live Action Movie Optimus with the text "GIVE ME YOUR FACE".

The net is trolling me for some reason... Sorry for the confusion.

I think it's actually a hotlink countermeasure, as some sites (like TFU.info) don't like their bandwidth stolen.

It's a weird addition. I'm not seeing anything Animated-ish out of it, either.

fenrir72 wrote:
A speaker mouth? Not surprising alright.

that is AWESOME. so suitable. it would be really cool if that was under soundwaves faceplate.

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:It's cool to see how much Takara has been stepping it up. The MP line is going strong!

Now how about some more G1 Decepticons?

Megatron=check
Seekers=check
Cassettes=check
Soundwave=check
Exhaust=check

Next in line? G1 season 1......Redesigned Megatron, Reflector, Shockwave, Insecticons, Coneheads, Dezaras?

Now that the cat's out of the bag, do you think Exhaust will also sport a hidden face?

Oh yes, kudos to HasTak for Soundwave and the cassettes. But we still need a new Megatron and an MP11-style Skywarp before we can check off those boxes, IMHO.

Really hoping for those next, followed by Reflector, Shockwave, and the Coneheads. How about a Coneheads 3-pack?

I'm surprisingly excited by Exhaust, too, but I'm more eager to round out the '84-'85 cast. I dunno if he'll have a face... He kinda already has one, no? His mask is more alien-face-like than the other masked characters, methinks.

Hope someone has the soundwave/soundblaster to show off his face

Coptur wrote:Hope someone has the soundwave/soundblaster to show off his face

Looking at mine, I raised his head and shined a flashlight into the open gap underneath his chin to see if there's anything in there, and it appears to just be an empty space behind his faceplate, one that simply exists to allow room for neck when his head is positioned to look downward. The reason for this seems to be that his head is simply engineered differently from Wheeljack's head.

LOL. They mispelled his name on the coin envelope. Engrish strikes again!

I think he looks great, just wish he came with two shoulder launchers like the toy had. But oh well, I can't wait to add him to my shelf.

Since when was Wheeljack old? (Besides DOTM!)

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Since when was Wheeljack old? (Besides DOTM!)

Young people can have beards. I'm still in my early twenties and I could easily grow a full beard or goatee if I stopped shaving for a week.

For those of you who ordered this at BBTS, it's processing.

Mine's coming from Japan! It'll be here in 2-3 weeks cause I chose the slow shipping.. With my big POL coming from BBTS today I think the slow shipping will be good.

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Since when was Wheeljack old? (Besides DOTM!)

Young people can have beards. I'm still in my early twenties and I could easily grow a full beard or goatee if I stopped shaving for a week.

Lol. Yeah. A guy I once worked with, who's in his late twenties, had thick handlebar mustache earlier this year. He goes through phases of having outrageous mustaches or outrageous beards... sometimes having both at the same time

megatronus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:It's cool to see how much Takara has been stepping it up. The MP line is going strong!

Now how about some more G1 Decepticons?

Megatron=check
Seekers=check
Cassettes=check
Soundwave=check
Exhaust=check

Next in line? G1 season 1......Redesigned Megatron, Reflector, Shockwave, Insecticons, Coneheads, Dezaras?

Now that the cat's out of the bag, do you think Exhaust will also sport a hidden face?

Oh yes, kudos to HasTak for Soundwave and the cassettes. But we still need a new Megatron and an MP11-style Skywarp before we can check off those boxes, IMHO.

Really hoping for those next, followed by Reflector, Shockwave, and the Coneheads. How about a Coneheads 3-pack?

I'm surprisingly excited by Exhaust, too, but I'm more eager to round out the '84-'85 cast. I dunno if he'll have a face... He kinda already has one, no? His mask is more alien-face-like than the other masked characters, methinks.

How about MP combiner (like stunticons or constructicons) I know is too much to ask, but 3rd parties are on that already. IMO computron should fit perfect with Grimlock and shake hands with generations Metroples

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Since when was Wheeljack old? (Besides DOTM!)

Young people can have beards. I'm still in my early twenties and I could easily grow a full beard or goatee if I stopped shaving for a week.

growing em since 1992 (17)

Got a chance to remove MP WJ face.........it's a mad, mad scientist, lol:

Masterpiece Wheeljack can be summed up in one word: WOW!

I thought Masterpiece Prowl would be tough to beat, but man did they knock it out of the park with Wheeljack. Holy cows is he awesome!!!

Gallery coming tomorrow.

Have been looking forwards to a new Masterpiece figure for a while now and my Wheeljack arrived yesterday. Thing is, Im usually pretty keen to get the box open and check the new figure out when I get home from work but for some reason that wasnt there yesterday.

I opened it up, checked for paint issues (none) and then set about transforming him. Put his various accessories on and then stood him on a shelf. There was no buzz or wow factor for me.

I dont know why. Maybe all the pics and video spoiled it, that would be my fault for looking. Maybe I'm done with collecting. Maybe just a bad day. Bumbleebee is next and pre-ordered so will see how things go.

Ravage XK wrote:Have been looking forwards to a new Masterpiece figure for a while now and my Wheeljack arrived yesterday. Thing is, Im usually pretty keen to get the box open and check the new figure out when I get home from work but for some reason that wasnt there yesterday.

I opened it up, checked for paint issues (none) and then set about transforming him. Put has various accessories on and then stood him on a shelf. There was no buzz or wow factor for me.

I dont know why. Maybe all the pics and video spoiled it, that would be my fault for looking. Maybe I'm done with collecting. Maybe just a bad day. Bumbleebee is next and pre-ordered so will see how things go.

I call it OD on MP syndrome

fenrir72 wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:Have been looking forwards to a new Masterpiece figure for a while now and my Wheeljack arrived yesterday. Thing is, Im usually pretty keen to get the box open and check the new figure out when I get home from work but for some reason that wasnt there yesterday.

I opened it up, checked for paint issues (none) and then set about transforming him. Put has various accessories on and then stood him on a shelf. There was no buzz or wow factor for me.

I dont know why. Maybe all the pics and video spoiled it, that would be my fault for looking. Maybe I'm done with collecting. Maybe just a bad day. Bumbleebee is next and pre-ordered so will see how things go.

I call it OD on MP syndrome

I agree, I get like that when I follow something too closely. Too much hype takes away some of the enjoyment when you finally get your hands on it, sometime you have to limit yourself.... enjoy your figure!

fenrir72 wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:Have been looking forwards to a new Masterpiece figure for a while now and my Wheeljack arrived yesterday. Thing is, Im usually pretty keen to get the box open and check the new figure out when I get home from work but for some reason that wasnt there yesterday.

I opened it up, checked for paint issues (none) and then set about transforming him. Put has various accessories on and then stood him on a shelf. There was no buzz or wow factor for me.

I dont know why. Maybe all the pics and video spoiled it, that would be my fault for looking. Maybe I'm done with collecting. Maybe just a bad day. Bumbleebee is next and pre-ordered so will see how things go.

I call it OD on MP syndrome

I agree, I get like that when I follow something too closely. Too much hype takes away some of the enjoyment when you finally get your hands on it, sometime you have to limit yourself.... enjoy your figure!

Sooo.. people's thoughts on MP20?

Va'al wrote:Sooo.. people's thoughts on MP20?

I hate it!




Because it's still in japan! Grrrrr slow shipping!!

Just got mine in today and it is nearly perfect in everyway. The one thing I absolutely hate about it is those damn sideview mirrors. I am glad they included two set because I already bent one sets and now they have major stress marks. I think I will display him without them.

Va'al wrote:Sooo.. people's thoughts on MP20?

my amazon dealy arrived before my wheeljack

I finally have Wheeljack! So amazing! The car is spot on; and there are even no real visible robot parts underneath, not that those bother me, but it looks really impressive. Robots in Disguise, indeed!

The robot mode is perfect. I'm impressed anew by this line every time whether it's by looking at the ones I already have or handling new figures.

The toy engineering on those things are fantastic.. cartoon-accurate robots that folds down famously into licensed cars. What can I say, Hasui has done it again.

This is my first Wheeljack ever, btw!

mine also arrived last week. i have nothing but praise for this figure. he looks fantastic in both modes and is just so well made. i hope we'll be getting a lot more autobot cars after magnus

So I noticed this today. I don't think I did it, I think it's a factory defect; I've only transformed him once so far. (admiring the robot mode atm.)

I tried pushing the edges of the piece in, and the crack doesn't move/close, so it seems solid enough. Like it should be fine. But do you think it might be an issue later on?

And does ever Takara send out replacement parts if needed?

i forgot to weigh in when i got mine...

my MP wheeljack arrived on wednesday, and oh man... i cant think of words to do him justice. its simply put, a terrific figure. spot on in both modes, and soooo posable! not that the other MP's are bricks, but they each have their own strange limitations. the transformation i felt was the most simplistic for an MP yet, but thats nothing to complain about.

if youre an MP collector, go buy one.

my only complaint with wheeljack is the fact that his shoulder rocket launcher does fit firmly in place... lean him over or turn him upside down and it just falls off, anyone else experience this?

otherwise he is one of my favorite MP's to date

Cyberpath wrote:So I noticed this today. I don't think I did it, I think it's a factory defect; I've only transformed him once so far. (admiring the robot mode atm.)

I tried pushing the edges of the piece in, and the crack doesn't move/close, so it seems solid enough. Like it should be fine. But do you think it might be an issue later on?

And does ever Takara send out replacement parts if needed?

i could live with a defect like that... if i had to. im sure itd be fine, but it would eat away at me. where did you buy him from? most online retailers have quite good return policies. otherwise contacting takara themselves... i dunno. im sure theres a way, but i wouldnt know how to go about it.

VioMeTriX wrote:my only complaint with wheeljack is the fact that his shoulder rocket launcher does fit firmly in place... lean him over or turn him upside down and it just falls off, anyone else experience this?

the launcher on my WJ sits firmly in place. maybe try that thing... other people use to help joints... is it clear nail polish?

Same here! Awesome fig. To bad I skipped on the other cars.....

2 coats clear nail polish and still the same result... hopefully dr. wu will make a better replacement like hes doing for the head

Did you try putting the polish in the hole mount? That and the launcher peg.

Meh he's alright but needs rubber tires and die cast also the side head thingies don't light up.

Loyal To The End wrote:Meh he's alright but needs rubber tires and die cast also the side head thingies don't light up.

You want him to be battery powered? That will require wiring for such a small scale. Superpants Prime had some mobility issues because of his light up fist gimmick. That will cost extra

Btw, rubber tires rot easily. Check your basic Shockwave G1 and the robot cars. Oh, MP-10 too has some rubber warping issues.

Or are you just trolling?

fenrir72 wrote:

Loyal To The End wrote:Meh he's alright but needs rubber tires and die cast also the side head thingies don't light up.

You want him to be battery powered? That will require wiring for such a small scale. Superpants Prime had some mobility issues because of his light up fist gimmick. That will cost extra

Btw, rubber tires rot easily. Check your basic Shockwave G1 and the robot cars. Oh, MP-10 too has some rubber warping issues.

Or are you just trolling?

I want him to light up how they do it idc could be solar powered for all I care. I can't see it costing extra for us maybe to manifacture it but that's not my problem none of my figures have problems wi rubber titres so I want them for all my figures as they look and roll better.

How can I be trolling ? It's what I want not what's realistic. back in the day rubber tires and die cast were the standard not the exception.

Loyal To The End wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Loyal To The End wrote:Meh he's alright but needs rubber tires and die cast also the side head thingies don't light up.

You want him to be battery powered? That will require wiring for such a small scale. Superpants Prime had some mobility issues because of his light up fist gimmick. That will cost extra

Btw, rubber tires rot easily. Check your basic Shockwave G1 and the robot cars. Oh, MP-10 too has some rubber warping issues.

Or are you just trolling?

I want him to light up how they do it idc could be solar powered for all I care. I can't see it costing extra for us maybe to manifacture it but that's not my problem none of my figures have problems wi rubber titres so I want them for all my figures as they look and roll better.

How can I be trolling ? It's what I want not what's realistic. back in the day rubber tires and die cast were the standard not the exception.

Rubber tires? Realistic but cost too much. And my Wheeljack rolls just fine. Though I miss the embossed "Dunlop" and Desert Dog tags on my G1 figs I'd grant you that.

Die-cast for the sake of it, like Titanium TF line? Didn't it last like less than a year because of poor implementation and cost? Also, paint chipping and oxidation to the metal is a bit of a drawback to die-cast (MP-05 had those rusting issues)

For a weeeeeee head, you want to incorporate a light up gimmick like LED. Be my guest and try designing one where you find an LED source to fit it without interfering in the transformation process. Me? I'd prefer them to have blue plastic optics.And batteries leak in the long run.

You keep on posting you don't care, well there's just one of you who don't care about the cost over hundreds of us who also care, hmmmmmmm, I wonder who Tomy will cater too? Sell to one who may or may not buy or to a hundred who are a sure buy? That's what is called pragmatism in ensuring the buttom line.

In fact, even for the Japanese market, the engineers of MP primary concern (seen in an interview concerning Ultra Magnus) is still the cost for the collectors.

So it's kind of weird that you called WJ meeeh. This a meeh?





when in the other thread, you are in denial that your MP-10 is a K.O.and made a big fuss of other purchasing theirs for $300.00

Loyal To The End wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:Optimus is a fake as everyone has said

Optimus is not fake those are just reference pics I'm getting the real deal with trailer so tell me if he's fake why is the trailer included ? I thought so but you know cheers on paying $300 for mp10

So maybe william-james88 is correct in his conclusion:

william-james88 wrote:Guys I seriously think this guy is trolling us. Think about it, what was the point of his thread anyway? To brag? Why? It is so odd. Was it just to let us know we are all chumps for paying so much for ours? That's pathetic. And now we are just encouraging him by commenting. He goes back and forth about it not being a fake, then it being a KO and he's ok with it and then going back to saying it is not a fake. His constant denial (ex: refuting photographic evidence) and inconsistent attitude really makes me think this is all a big joke.

So I recommend we stop wasting our time commenting and let this thread die.

fenrir72 wrote:

Loyal To The End wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Loyal To The End wrote:Meh he's alright but needs rubber tires and die cast also the side head thingies don't light up.

You want him to be battery powered? That will require wiring for such a small scale. Superpants Prime had some mobility issues because of his light up fist gimmick. That will cost extra

Btw, rubber tires rot easily. Check your basic Shockwave G1 and the robot cars. Oh, MP-10 too has some rubber warping issues.

Or are you just trolling?

I want him to light up how they do it idc could be solar powered for all I care. I can't see it costing extra for us maybe to manifacture it but that's not my problem none of my figures have problems wi rubber titres so I want them for all my figures as they look and roll better.

How can I be trolling ? It's what I want not what's realistic. back in the day rubber tires and die cast were the standard not the exception.

Rubber tires? Realistic but cost too much. And my Wheeljack rolls just fine. Though I miss the embossed "Dunlop" and Desert Dog tags on my G1 figs I'd grant you that.

Die-cast for the sake of it, like Titanium TF line? Didn't it last like less than a year because of poor implementation and cost? Also, paint chipping and oxidation to the metal is a bit of a drawback to die-cast (MP-05 had those rusting issues)

For a weeeeeee head, you want to incorporate a light up gimmick like LED. Be my guest and try designing one where you find an LED source to fit it without interfering in the transformation process. Me? I'd prefer them to have blue plastic optics.And batteries leak in the long run.

You keep on posting you don't care, well there's just one of you who don't care about the cost over hundreds of us who also care, hmmmmmmm, I wonder who Tomy will cater too? Sell to one who may or may not buy or to a hundred who are a sure buy? That's what is called pragmatism in ensuring the buttom line.

In fact, even for the Japanese market, the engineers of MP primary concern (seen in an interview concerning Ultra Magnus) is still the cost for the collectors.

So it's kind of weird that you called WJ meeeh. This a meeh?





when in the other thread, you are in denial that your MP-10 is a K.O.and made a big fuss of other purchasing theirs for $300.00

Loyal To The End wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:Optimus is a fake as everyone has said

Optimus is not fake those are just reference pics I'm getting the real deal with trailer so tell me if he's fake why is the trailer included ? I thought so but you know cheers on paying $300 for mp10

So maybe william-james88 is correct in his conclusion:

william-james88 wrote:Guys I seriously think this guy is trolling us. Think about it, what was the point of his thread anyway? To brag? Why? It is so odd. Was it just to let us know we are all chumps for paying so much for ours? That's pathetic. And now we are just encouraging him by commenting. He goes back and forth about it not being a fake, then it being a KO and he's ok with it and then going back to saying it is not a fake. His constant denial (ex: refuting photographic evidence) and inconsistent attitude really makes me think this is all a big joke.

So I recommend we stop wasting our time commenting and let this thread die.

It's called an opinion everyone has one I respected yours while respectfully disagreeing I didn't resort to personal attacks but really I guess I can't think outside the norm is it so wrong I just want some value for my money ?

Oh and btw I never said I didn't care about higher cost for the buyer I said I didn't care about the higher cost for the manufacture

this wheeljack is phenomenal. and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but how this could not be enough for someone is beyond my comprehension.

after a toy as recent as RID prime and magnus having tires split apart on me, i can do without rubber on TF's. and you want blue ear thingies for WJ? here.

shajaki wrote:this wheeljack is phenomenal. and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but how this could not be enough for someone is beyond my comprehension.

after a toy as recent as RID prime and magnus having tires split apart on me, i can do without rubber on TF's. and you want blue ear thingies for WJ? here.

My initial RID Fire Convoy's wheels split. Sold him off and got a 2nd hand Takara Fire Convoy + Godmagnus. No problems with the rubber tires. But I'm glad Tomy is now using simulated rubber tires and not the real thing...........they melt or rot.