Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl

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Fresh from the Energon Pub, Seibertronian YouTuber optibotimus has shared his next video review, this time featuring Generations Combiner Wars Combaticon Brawl! An all-new mold, the little bruiser that could is part of the Bruticus gestalt Transformer, along with Blast Off and the upcoming figures featuring remolded previous toys. Check it out below.

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Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741883)
Posted by optibotimus on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:37pm CST
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741890)
Posted by Scottywan82 on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:07pm CST
optibotimus wrote:
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion


Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741892)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
Scottywan82 wrote:
optibotimus wrote:
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion


Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

We were talking about the Blastoff review, and just the gun, not the hand/foot gun (even though for Blastoff they are both the same) :BOT:
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741896)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:27pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741903)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:40pm CST
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741906)
Posted by carytheone on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741909)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:55pm CST
Seeing as how I paid $21 dullars for Quakerslacker, I'd pay $20 for a cewl motoslickle robit. 8-}
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741917)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:18pm CST
groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741919)
Posted by carytheone on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741925)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.


I paid more for both of them but it was worth it to me. I'm more interested with actually being able to get them without buying a whole set
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741936)
Posted by Shuttershock on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.


Plus it would make a custom Renegades Combiner I've been thinking about feasible. :D
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741961)
Posted by .... on November 16th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CST
Shuttershock wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.


Well, there was that ONE time...

Image

Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.


WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? :shock: Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741964)
Posted by carytheone on November 16th, 2015 @ 3:31pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? :shock: Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???
Nothing to see here, move along. Too many questions and the fiction falls apart. Just like scale only exists if you believe it does. You wouldn't want to be responsible for killing Tinkerbell would you?
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741966)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 16th, 2015 @ 3:39pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? :shock: Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

Good old G1 animation errors. That's Bruticus (probably intended to be Onslaught) along with Swindle and Brawl (Bruticus's legs) running into a giant Blast Off (probably meant to be Astrotrain), who is Bruticus's arm. Don't think too much about it, it happened a lot. The G1 cartoon is notorious for these mistakes.
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Further reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Animation_error
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741972)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 3:49pm CST
That Bot wrote:Image
#-o
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741983)
Posted by william-james88 on November 16th, 2015 @ 4:38pm CST
Cobotron wrote:
That Bot wrote:Image
#-o


I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741984)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on November 16th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.


Well, there was that ONE time...

Image

Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus) :lol: :BOT:


Blastoffception!
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741985)
Posted by william-james88 on November 16th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CST
I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.

One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741991)
Posted by steals_your_goats on November 16th, 2015 @ 5:04pm CST
william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.


I don't know, I feel like he wasn't doing something right in the transformation. That little clip on the waist should tab into SOMETHING I don't think they'd put it on there just for fun.
Re: Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl (1741998)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 5:10pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.

One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

Very true, but at the same time there could be another issue there that we cannot see or that Opt may be having issues with. The waist could be good for all we know, it's just this figure had issues or there is extra fiddling needed that he just didn't fenangle right :BOT:

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