Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Scottywan82 wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.

It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.

It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy

Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing

I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy

It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.

Shuttershock wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

padfoo wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

That Bot wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

That Bot wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

padfoo wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus)

william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

william-james88 wrote:I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.

One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.