Void Rivals #4 1:25 Spoiler Variant Revealed
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Below you can see the connecting cover variant for Void Rivals 4 which is also being labelled as a spoiler. It is by Karen S Darboe and features Shockwave. This comic, and cover, should be available in comic stores today.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 27th, 2023 @ 8:14am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 27th, 2023 @ 9:27am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow. Shockwave should look bigger. Not really intimidating.
There is literally nothing there to compare him to, how can he look small?
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 27th, 2023 @ 2:38pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on September 27th, 2023 @ 2:53pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 27th, 2023 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on September 27th, 2023 @ 5:25pm CDT
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 27th, 2023 @ 6:23pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 27th, 2023 @ 6:43pm CDT
I didn't really mean his size compared to others, I meant his own body dimensions. He should be bulkier and beefier. Also he looks like he skipped leg day, but most versions have that problem, except Beast Hunters and Bayverse.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow. Shockwave should look bigger. Not really intimidating.
There is literally nothing there to compare him to, how can he look small?
Posted by Flashwave on September 27th, 2023 @ 11:42pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't really mean his size compared to others, I meant his own body dimensions. He should be bulkier and beefier. Also he looks like he skipped leg day, but most versions have that problem, except Beast Hunters and Bayverse.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow. Shockwave should look bigger. Not really intimidating.
There is literally nothing there to compare him to, how can he look small?
Combination of art style and being drawn from the toy itself I am afraid.
Posted by ScottyP on September 28th, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT
His inclusion was a little interesting but also really weird. They basically hard cut out of nowhere to a two page interlude with him talking to that pig guy from The Gambler (Sucksoid or whoever) then go right back to the Void Rivals story. Bizarre pacing that reeked of "hey, hey guys, look it's Transformers! 'Member Cybertron? We 'member."
Posted by sol magnus on September 30th, 2023 @ 9:24pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:The cover art and his design in the interior are not the same. Interior art is a much more G1-ish design rather than the Prime (dare I say Beast Hunters-esque?) design on that cover.
His inclusion was a little interesting but also really weird. They basically hard cut out of nowhere to a two page interlude with him talking to that pig guy from The Gambler (Sucksoid or whoever) then go right back to the Void Rivals story. Bizarre pacing that reeked of "hey, hey guys, look it's Transformers! 'Member Cybertron? We 'member."
That guy is not in the Gambler. Sleezardo is in the Gambler. The guy you mean doesn't appear until Season 3.
Posted by wyokid on October 1st, 2023 @ 11:36pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:The cover art and his design in the interior are not the same. Interior art is a much more G1-ish design rather than the Prime (dare I say Beast Hunters-esque?) design on that cover.
His inclusion was a little interesting but also really weird. They basically hard cut out of nowhere to a two page interlude with him talking to that pig guy from The Gambler (Sucksoid or whoever) then go right back to the Void Rivals story. Bizarre pacing that reeked of "hey, hey guys, look it's Transformers! 'Member Cybertron? We 'member."
We were checking in on Skuxxoid's plot. Not sure how that was bizarre.
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2023 @ 11:17pm CDT
The Autobots are rolling out in a big way this month, with the arrival of Daniel Warren Johnson’s eagerly awaited Transformers #1. The issue’s first printing has already sold out from the distributor. But no worries — a second printing will arrive in comic shops on November 1st, with a selection of very cool variant covers. Check ’em out below, after these official details on the book…
Today Skybound, in collaboration with leading toy and game company Hasbro, announced that TRANSFORMERS #1, the debut issue of writer/artist Daniel Warren Johnson’s massively anticipated series, has sold out at the distributor level days before its release at comic book shops. The second launch in the all-new Energon Universe, TRANSFORMERS #1 will return with five commemorative second printing covers, available in comic book shops beginning November 1, 2023.
TRANSFORMERS #1 begins a brand-new era for the iconic TRANSFORMERS franchise from Daniel Warren Johnson (Extremity, Do a Powerbomb, DC’s Wonder Woman: Dead Earth) and colorist Mike Spicer (Stillwater, Murder Falcon). Optimus Prime was supposed to have led the Autobots to victory. Instead, the fate of Cybertron is unknown, and his allies have crash-landed far from home, alongside their enemies—the Decepticons. As these titanic forces renew their war on Earth, one thing is immediately clear: the planet will never be the same. New alliances are struck. Battle lines are redrawn. Humanity’s only hope for survival is Optimus Prime and the Autobots.
The issue will return with five brand-new second printing variant covers:
Covers A & B, drawn by Jason Howard, spotlight the iconic Optimus Prime and Starscream respectively.
Covers C & D, drawn by Lewis LaRosa, respectively feature Johnson’s Autobot and Decepticon teams.
A special spoiler Cover E, drawn by Greg Tocchini.
Posted by snavej on October 3rd, 2023 @ 6:20am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2023 @ 11:40pm CDT
This review is spoiler free aside from the mention of the presence or some characters or lack of.
I keep thinking of that big bold line from the original G2 comic with “this is not your father’s Autobots” and how the strategy for franchises has changed since the Poochie filled era of the 90s. The recent era of deconstructing heroes is now past as well and instead what people want is nostalgia, like a reboot to G1. BUT, while nostalgia can seem like an easy sell, it must be done right, which is very tricky. There must be familiarity but it can't just be a retread.
After having read the first issue, I can confidently say that writer/artist Daniel Warren Johnson gives us a G1 reboot in glorious loving fashion. While it can easily be seen as a reboot to both the G1 show and the G1 comic, it is also a new story, and made accessible to all types of Transformers fans. Fans of the original G1 comics are bound to get a kick out of Johnson’s art since it is very reminiscent of Geoff Senior at times. There is a great panel of Ratchet getting an action scene which reminds me of how Geoff Senior would juxtapose a dynamic and fluid scene with such simple shapes making up blocky and angular characters. We get that same contrast here in Johnson’s art. The bright colours from Mike Spicer are the icing on the cake, complementing the art perfectly for a classic feel.
The story itself is very familiar, as intended for the opening of a new saga reinventing G1. But within the first issue, Johnson makes it clear that it is not a simple retread of G1, with a significant character death. This, along with the mysterious lack of a particular villain, sets the rest of the comic in uncharted waters. The familiarity now rests simply with the characters. This is the opposite of deconstructing characters and it reminds me instead of seeing Peter B Parker in the first Spider-verse movie, where we have characters in a new story and new continuity, but written in a way that you can instantly recognize them in a classic portrayal. While there have been a lot of different versions of Optimus Prime, Jetfire and Starscream throughout the brand’s 40 years, consistent traits have lingered throughout, creating specific personas we attribute them with to the point where we can tell when a character isn’t acting as he should (or as we think they should). And in this comic, these characters feel like the ones I know and love. Optimus is as heroic as we all know him to be, Starscream is as malicious as you’d expect him to be and Jetfire battles with the familiar internal conflict.
One last point I want to address is a change to the chronology by Johnson that I find very significant for the brand. He reduces the time for both the war and the main bots’ slumber from millions to hundreds of years. It’s just a change to the dialogue, with no other repercussions, but that’s all I needed. Interactions make more sense now, I can better imagine the length of the war, and there being little change from when they crashed, if that is revealed to be the case, will make more sense. But this is just a personal nitpick I had with storylines in the past and Sci Fi in general (paging Doctor Who), so I was glad to see it addressed here.
Overall, I recommend this issue to any Transformers fan who wants new G1 content in their life. It is a really meaty issue too, leaving you both satisfied and wanting more. Plus the humans present are not annoying, nor remove any of the spotlight from the bots (if ever there was any concern).
4.5 out of 5 stars
You can pick up this comic today at your local comic shop or grab it at our toy and comic store (along with thousands of other products) at shop.seibertron.com. We also have an exclusive cover for Transformers #1.
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2023 @ 8:59am CDT
Firstly, it was interesting to see that while Johnson grew up with the Transformers brand and was heavily influence by Geoff Senior for his art style, he has been removed from the modern Transformers content and discussion. So don't expect new characters to show up, even those which have retroactively become part of "G1" fiction, like Drift, Barricade or Windblade. The stories will instead have characters he is ore familiar with, though there may certainly be some G1 deepcuts.
The first issue had a passing remark regarding Megatron's absence and Johnson was not going to tell us more about that. BUT he did explain to us why he picked Bumblebee as the character to bite the dust in the first issue. At a basic level, the scene was made to establish to both new readers and the human characters in the story who were the good guys and the bad guys and how ruthless the bad guys are. Plus, since this comic is meant to be as accessible as possible, Johnson wanted to have well known characters, including the one who dies. This had nothing to do with Bumblebee's overexposure in the past 15 years, though it is interesting to note that Johnson never had a great affinity to Bumblebee growing up.
While the book has a very familiar premise for anyone who grew up in the G1 era, the book is meant to be accessible to all and Johnson asks us to leave everything we know at the door. The story he will be telling is fresh and new. It will be written as a series of arcs, with no end planned at the moment. At the same time though, Johnson is adamant to make each issue feel satisfying in its own right, as we saw with the first issue, with a full character arc for Jetfire. This is something extremely important to him.
A change we felt was significant was the talk of time. In most Transformers fiction, eras are measured in "millions of years" be it the Cybertronian war or the time between the Arc crashing and the bots awakening. Johnson changed that to "hundreds of years" in the dialogue since it felt more logical, but the impact story wise is minimal. It wasn't that big a decision for him and Hasbro had no notes on it. Speaking of Hasbro's involvement, they did give him feedback about the way he draws Optimus' hands. While they would want them to look less human, Johnson is sticking to the Geoff Senior school of robot hands, which are simply human hands with some rings drawn on the fingers. It is also less taxing for him, since he does have the double duty of being the writer and artist.
Speaking of that double duty, it gives an added layer to what we see in the comic and which characters appear. For instance, the cassette Soundwave chooses to deploy is Ravage. Johnson, as a writer, wanted to include this character that he loves and Johnson as an artist really wanted him in the story because it adds a different kind of element to draw. Him being an animal makes him fun to draw and adds contrast to the more blocky shapes of the other bots.
Those were the main parts of the interview, if you want to watch the full interview, you can do so below. But please be aware of some issues with framerate and the interviewer going on some random rants/tangents.
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:29am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2023 @ 10:58am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:So time wise...they just killed G1 (beast wars) and UK comics dinobots. Bold and an easy pass XD
It's a whole new world, anything is possible. Only 1 character is confirmed dead so far
Posted by ScottyP on October 4th, 2023 @ 11:03am CDT
Really liked the war not being ancient/on an insane timescale, felt the balance of human drama to robot stuff was done well and some of the small nods like Prime's trailer having a real purpose were neato.
The art is not to my taste overall, but the only part that seemed actually bad to me were the attempts at using Geoff Senior-style action. That only works for Senior because his entire style is like that, it's really awkward and jarring here. The tone also gets too edgelord for my liking by the end, but I think a lot of people will like that and not view it as a negative point.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 4th, 2023 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2023 @ 2:18pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I thought it was average. Plenty of good stuff, plenty of stuff that wasn't for me.
Really liked the war not being ancient/on an insane timescale, felt the balance of human drama to robot stuff was done well and some of the small nods like Prime's trailer having a real purpose were neato.
The art is not to my taste overall, but the only part that seemed actually bad to me were the attempts at using Geoff Senior-style action. That only works for Senior because his entire style is like that, it's really awkward and jarring here. The tone also gets too edgelord for my liking by the end, but I think a lot of people will like that and not view it as a negative point.
I get all your points (except for the edgelord stuff, I didn't feel that), but I think the wholesomeness and accomplishment of a G1 reboot made me look past them. I don't really care that it's a G1 reboot, but I like that it is done well. Some fans wanted that and I am happy for them. I hated the IDW 2.0 stuff, especially in terms of pacing, so by comparison this issue felt like a great read.
Posted by ScottyP on October 4th, 2023 @ 3:48pm CDT
Gonna keep it vague since I think this will show in the news story view comments where spoiler tags don't work - what I'm mostly referring to is the final panel of the issue. Made me roll my eyes. In a vacuum it doesn't bother me but as it is, it felt like the definition of a first issue trying way too hard to be serious/grim/important. Move that scene to a later point in the story, heck not even much later, and I think it has more impact.william-james88 wrote:I get all your points (except for the edgelord stuff, I didn't feel that)
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2023 @ 4:29pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Gonna keep it vague since I think this will show in the news story view comments where spoiler tags don't work - what I'm mostly referring to is the final panel of the issue. Made me roll my eyes. In a vacuum it doesn't bother me but as it is, it felt like the definition of a first issue trying way too hard to be serious/grim/important. Move that scene to a later point in the story, heck not even much later, and I think it has more impact.william-james88 wrote:I get all your points (except for the edgelord stuff, I didn't feel that)
Ah right, I get it now. While I felt it was in line with the way the character was portrayed through the comic, I won't disagree with any of that.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
Posted by Supreme Convoy on October 4th, 2023 @ 11:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:33am CDT
Supreme Convoy wrote:Transformers #1 is one of my most anticipated comics this year and it did not disappoint! It really is the perfect mix of DWJ sensibilities mashed up with the Transformers.
Yeah, I know people here aren't really feeling it, but the reaction online has been positive overall. While I'm indifferent on it being a G1 reboot, I think it accomplishes what it sets out to be.
Here are some more words of excitement I found for this issue:
We are so fuckin back, I knew DWJ wouldn't fail us.
The art's pulpy and fresh, the human and cybertronian characters are both interesting, it's got the signature robot-ultra-violence. 9/10, wish it was longer. Great start, hope we got years ahead of us.
What a fantastic read with some interesting twists to the formula. You can also already tell DWJ gets these characters.
I enjoyed it. How nice it is to see the 'compassionate warrior' take on Optimus Prime again as opposed to angry and vengeful in other media.
Welcome back, Caring Warrior Dad G1 Optimus
Just read the comic. I have to say this is the best TF comic I've read for a very, very long time. Feels good to be excited about Transformers comics again!
Really enjoyable. It is a pretty fresh look at the Sunbow Pilot Episode MtMtE with a ton of hooks for new story.
Listen, you there. That’s right, you reading this. I want you to read this carefully and picture these words in your mind. You understand? Good. Pick. Up. This. Book. It’s everything I wanted in a new Transformers series, going back to the core strengths of the franchise, the mechanical lifeforms learning and changing through their interactions with humanity, with amazing artwork and engaging writing and pacing. Pick it up. ‘Nuff said.
Posted by Big Grim on October 5th, 2023 @ 9:08am CDT
~ Grim
Posted by ScottyP on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:56pm CDT
Gotta get that shock value in or something. Tbh, characters dying in a premiere issue is probably more predictable now than the opposite.Big Grim wrote:I rather enjoyed it, though I don't remember Cybertronians ever feeling as fragile as they seem to be here. Maybe I'm just used to how hard to kill they were in the IDW days. It certainly looks like two deaths in this issue alone.
~ Grim
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:28pm CDT
That aside, I am so stunned and excited by this first issue! I’m loving all the reimaginings of the human characters, I love Carly and her van so much already (hope Ironhide becomes her van, they had a great dynamic in the G1 cartoon.)
One thing that seems new(ish?) that I’m VERY interested in is the duration of the war. It appears to barely have gotten started, so we’re going to see some interesting “early days” of the war that other series (looking at you IDW2019!) didn’t manage to grasp.
It’s going to be hard waiting for #2 is all I have left to say!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:54pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Post-Furman IDW didn't even grasp the war to begin with. Let alone how to "end" it in a logical and satisfying narrative way.
War rarely ends in a logical and satisfying narrative way. I thought IDW handled it quite realistically, as far as giant space robots go. Both sides losing, trying to move on, even the "bad" guy, kinda getting away with it, for a time, with plenty of the other side backing him. Pretty good grasp on war to me.
As for the new comic; I liked it a lot. Carly should be blonde though.
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 11:00pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Post-Furman IDW didn't even grasp the war to begin with. Let alone how to "end" it in a logical and satisfying narrative way.
The war under IDW post Furman was always nebulous to me. It only ever made sense, time wise, when Roberts made this beautiful 2 page spread explaining how the leaders would over-strategize to the point of taking 100 years to plan one battle.
Posted by snavej on October 6th, 2023 @ 5:27am CDT
It's 'good' (realistic) to see Starscream & co. casually killing humans, who Decepticons would see as offensively inferior and an obstacle to progress. Maybe they will start a programme of human eradication this time. Given the increasing use of drones in real-world war, the Decepticons could unleash self-replicating attack drones against human civilisation. That way, the genocidal process would be automated, leaving the Decepticons free to strengthen their positions and fight the Autobots.
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 6:10am CDT
snavej wrote:The whole idea of Teletraan-1 was SO 1950s, when computers were huge. It's redundant now. I'm glad that Image Optimus blew it up.
It's 'good' (realistic) to see Starscream & co. casually killing humans, who Decepticons would see as offensively inferior and an obstacle to progress. Maybe they will start a programme of human eradication this time. Given the increasing use of drones in real-world war, the Decepticons could unleash self-replicating attack drones against human civilisation. That way, the genocidal process would be automated, leaving the Decepticons free to strengthen their positions and fight the Autobots.
Re: Starscream, - this is the truest take on the stated characterization of Starscream going back to his 1984 file card we've ever gotten. He was probably the best character in the book, and while I don't think his other major action was needed whether or not for overexposure - it made me feel something, so on that level this book is a success in my eyes.
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:47pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Seems completely on-brand for Kirkman's comics in general, though.
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 3:23pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
They referenced it in issue 1.
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:11pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
So I guess this means this story takes place post 1999
Posted by snavej on October 7th, 2023 @ 3:32am CDT
Anyway, Cliffy has the glass gas, which means that some Decepticons are gonna get shattered soon.
By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 7th, 2023 @ 5:40pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
I can’t help but disagree. Look at the following page, Optimus is clearly suddenly overwhelmed by the weight of the war, his inability to save his own men, his home world. He’s only been online on Earth for probably no more than a couple days. The deer stepping, while admittedly gruesome (let’s not forget who’s in control of this series) serves as a really poignant moment of despair and Optimus’ feelings of despair and helplessness at the situation laid before him. So much is out of his control, or worse, so much is his fault.
Also… He hasn’t been a Prime that long, given what we know about the timeframe of the war. He must be so overwhelmed. This to me, serves as some EXCELLENT character building, and without a single spoken word or marvel-movie quip. It’s one of those things you have to take behind face value.
Can’t wait for issue 2!!!
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 7th, 2023 @ 5:42pm CDT
snavej wrote:By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!
Do you want to shatter the poor guy even more?!
Posted by Randomhero on October 8th, 2023 @ 12:13am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Lol okay dude. I’m sure you’ll be here every month to find something to complain about
Posted by TulioDude on October 8th, 2023 @ 8:17pm CDT
Posted by JazZeke on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:35am CDT
The most interesting element is the humans, actually. Sparkplug is a Vietnam vet with PTSD and a strained relationship with Spike, who's basically acting like the parental figure in the relationship. And he dreams of becoming an astronaut.
I do have a... TON of nitpicks though. Art is okay. At this point though I'm starting to resent the Sunbow animation model designs. I feel like they're starting to hold the overall brand back at this point. I'd rather have robots that actually look like they can turn into stuff. Apparently Optimus' trailer is now a TARDIS capable of fitting all the other Autobots inside it. And they all come back online speaking English immediately, no accounting for a language barrier, which is a sci fi pet peeve of mine.
Bumblebee is snuffed out unceremoniously before he even comes online. And while I do believe said character is overexposed, it just feels like a mean-spirited way of doing it. Not "edgelord," but pushing the envelop. At least in Prime when Cliffjumper was brought in just to be killed off, he got a moment to be established for audiences to connect to and feel the weight of his death.
I'd rate it a 5/10.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 13th, 2023 @ 8:28pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 14th, 2023 @ 10:40am CDT
Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
Posted by sol magnus on October 14th, 2023 @ 7:55pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Posted by JazZeke on October 15th, 2023 @ 1:03am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Yep.