War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder
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The Amazon exclusive 2-pack (subtitled 'Battle Across Time') of Grimlock and Mirage has been revealed! What's more, it's also up for preorder at Amazon, with a limited number of sets available at Hasbro Pulse (where Pulse Premium members have first access).
Grimlock is a new head retool and complete redeco of Kingdom Dinobot, paying homage to Grimlock's Beast Wars toy being a redeco of Dinobot. As such, he's listed as 'Maximal Grimlock.
Mirage is a retool of his Siege figure into an Earth-mode racecar, featuring the same head, unlike his previous Amazon exclusive figure, which featured a more G1 toy accurate head.
Read on for the official press release from Hasbro, as well as official pictures of the duo (and see if you notice how we may be getting a certain figure).
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Battle Across Time Collection Deluxe WFC-K40 Autobot Mirage and Maximal Grimlock
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/ Available: 11/1/2021)
The Deluxe WFC-K40 AUTOBOT MIRAGE and MAXIMAL GRIMLOCK Battle Across Time Collection includes a G1-inspired AUTOBOT MIRAGE figure standing at 5.5 inches tall that converts to Earth racecar mode in 20 steps and a Beast-Wars: Uprising-inspired MAXIMAL GRIMLOCK standing at 5.5 inches tall that converts to raptor mode in 28 steps. The figures come with 2 blaster accessories and MAXIMAL GRIMLOCK’s tail detaches from raptor mode to become 2 sword accessories!
The Battle Across Time Collection allows fans to experience the clash between G1 and Beast Wars with MAXIMAL and AUTOBOT team-ups! With DINOBOT, STARSCREAM, and WASPINATOR in pursuit, GRIMLOCK and MIRAGE must team up to keep the DECEPTICON-PREDACON threat at bay. Each Battle Across Time pack features exclusive art that creates an epic battle scene when combined (each sold separately, subject to availability).
Beastify the battlefield! Worlds collide when the MAXIMALS and PREDACONS join the fight, coming together with the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS in an epic battle that will alter their destiny forever. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available now for pre-order on Amazon.
So what do you think of this two-pack, Seibertronians? Are you excited to have both these figures? Click on any photo above to be taken to the Amazon listing, and let us know what you think below!
Credit(s): Hasbro
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Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104195)
Posted by Munkky on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CDT
This set looks good, and even better Hasbro Pulse UK will actually be stocking it! Though I don't know if it's something I really need in my collection. G1 Mirage has never been a character I've cared all that much about, but it's good to see an Earth mode version of the Seige mould finally happen, and while I am nostalgic for Beast Wars Grimlock and I think it's been done well here, I only recently bought Studio Series 1986 Grimlock so that's good enough for me.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104196)
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT
I'm probably going to sell the Grimlock, to be honest. Not doubling up on any Beast Wars sculpts.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104197)
Posted by JazZeke on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:37pm CDT
My brother wants Grimlock but not Mirage. Any chance we could arrange something?
Posted by JazZeke on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:37pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:I'm probably going to sell the Grimlock, to be honest. Not doubling up on any Beast Wars sculpts.
My brother wants Grimlock but not Mirage. Any chance we could arrange something?
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104198)
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:39pm CDT
I'm sure there's a way. I pre-ordered it already.
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:39pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:sol magnus wrote:I'm probably going to sell the Grimlock, to be honest. Not doubling up on any Beast Wars sculpts.
My brother wants Grimlock but not Mirage. Any chance we could arrange something?
I'm sure there's a way. I pre-ordered it already.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104200)
Posted by Betenoire on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:43pm CDT
Posted by Betenoire on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:43pm CDT
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/ Available: 11/1/2021)
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Must have been written pre pricing change as both Amazon and Pulse have it at $52.99 at the moment.
Which seems better than the Shattered Glass Megs jump.
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Must have been written pre pricing change as both Amazon and Pulse have it at $52.99 at the moment.
Which seems better than the Shattered Glass Megs jump.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104202)
Posted by bluecatcinema on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:49pm CDT
Is anyone else having trouble seeing the images?
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104204)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:53pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 11th, 2021 @ 1:53pm CDT
They both look good, but I have no attachment to Grimlock. Mirage, if the difference from the Siege version is significant enough, I'll try to get.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104205)
Posted by ScottyP on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:01pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:01pm CDT
Really diggin' that toy-style headsculpt on BW Grimlock. Hope the next time this mold gets some use it's a heavier retool for Thrustor
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104206)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CDT
Let me know if you want to split a set, I’m more interested in Grimlock
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:They both look good, but I have no attachment to Grimlock. Mirage, if the difference from the Siege version is significant enough, I'll try to get.
Let me know if you want to split a set, I’m more interested in Grimlock
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104208)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:28pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:28pm CDT
Broken pictures. Broken pictures everywhere
Appart that, Mirage is a big "meh" for me and that BW Grimlock look weird. I know it have nothing to do with the original, but I would have much prefered a repaint/retool of Beast Megatron for Grimlock.
Appart that, Mirage is a big "meh" for me and that BW Grimlock look weird. I know it have nothing to do with the original, but I would have much prefered a repaint/retool of Beast Megatron for Grimlock.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104210)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:46pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 11th, 2021 @ 2:46pm CDT
Well... Grimlock and Mirage are a thing. Grimlock's not as good as I was expecting, but not terrible. Mirage is just confusing. They removed the shoulder mounting despite that being G1 accurate, plus they left the cannon unpainted, while painting the thighs in white instead of just molding in white. Seems very odd
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104211)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
I love how they changed the “elf” tampograph from the original toy and replaced it with “orc.” That just warms my nerdy heart, lol! It’s nice to see that Mirage gets to keep his classic “26” racing number. Some other recent figures, like Wheeljack and Smokescreen, weren’t so lucky. I really hope the shoulder mounting functionality isn’t gone. It doesn’t look good from the pictures, but we haven’t seen every angle yet, and maybe there is an alternate way to do it that we haven’t yet seen. I’m a bit disappointed that this isn’t a straight upgrade to the Siege version of Mirage. Some details have been improved, while others have been changed for the worse or even lost altogether. I may end up keeping Siege Mirage as my main display piece for the character.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104212)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:09pm CDT
I really like Grimlock & I might get him loose off ebay. I definitely don't need another Mirage, I have all of the Siege versions.
I ordered 2 Ratchet/Lifeline sets back in November & they never shipped them. They finally canceled the order a week or two ago. I ended up buying Lifeline off ebay & Wolfman Jake from this forum hooked me up with Ratchet. That guy is AWESOME! I thought I was only getting a loose Ratchet but he sent everything minus Lifeline, I got the original box, instructions & plastic blister. I was fricken over the Moon!
And they didn't ship my Dirge/Ramjet set in a bigger shipping box. They just slapped the shipping labels right on the actual item. Took me an hour to remove the stickers & glue residue with a hair dryer & Goo-Gone. I called them about it & they gave me a partial refund, almost half price. So it worked out ok in the end.
Thanks for the support.
I just need to keep practicing. My biggest problem are reviews because everybody else have been doing reviews for years. It feels like a waste of time & I want to do something different than everybody else. I don't want to simply copy. I'm probably not going to do reviews & just do comparisons & little customs tweaks.
I'm going to start with short customizing tutorials for beginners. I have about 25 planned so far.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:09pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:So what do you think of this two-pack, Seibertronians? Are you excited to have both these figures? Click on any photo above to be taken to the Amazon listing, and let us know what you think below!
I really like Grimlock & I might get him loose off ebay. I definitely don't need another Mirage, I have all of the Siege versions.
Razorbeast88 wrote:That's so unfortunate you had that experience with Amazon. I haven't had any problems so far, though the only exclusive I've ordered was Barricade with P-CP.
I ordered 2 Ratchet/Lifeline sets back in November & they never shipped them. They finally canceled the order a week or two ago. I ended up buying Lifeline off ebay & Wolfman Jake from this forum hooked me up with Ratchet. That guy is AWESOME! I thought I was only getting a loose Ratchet but he sent everything minus Lifeline, I got the original box, instructions & plastic blister. I was fricken over the Moon!
And they didn't ship my Dirge/Ramjet set in a bigger shipping box. They just slapped the shipping labels right on the actual item. Took me an hour to remove the stickers & glue residue with a hair dryer & Goo-Gone. I called them about it & they gave me a partial refund, almost half price. So it worked out ok in the end.
Razorbeast88 wrote:As far as the YouTube channel, best of luck! Public speaking can be pretty difficult but maybe writing down what you want to say or bullet points of the things you want to say can help organize your thoughts. From there it's just rehearse rehearse rehearse! Memorization helps as well. From there you can record yourself with multiple takes to slowly practice taking out any awkard pauses or stop yourself from saying words like "um" or "like" too often. Its frustrating now but you'll get the hang of it! Can't wait to check it out
Thanks for the support.
I just need to keep practicing. My biggest problem are reviews because everybody else have been doing reviews for years. It feels like a waste of time & I want to do something different than everybody else. I don't want to simply copy. I'm probably not going to do reviews & just do comparisons & little customs tweaks.I'm going to start with short customizing tutorials for beginners. I have about 25 planned so far.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104213)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:22pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:22pm CDT
I know I'd be watching all the customizing tutorials, I don't know jack about that sort of thing
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104215)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:27pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:27pm CDT
Surprised to see Grimlock not going for the dalmatian look. Also had to do a double take with the red on his dino head: turns out it's just lighting. Not in the cards yet for me I'm afraid...
Comparisons with Dinobot when?
Comparisons with Dinobot when?
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104216)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:27pm CDT
I'm going to keep them short & to the point. I believe every toy collector needs some basic customizing skills.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 11th, 2021 @ 3:27pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:I know I'd be watching all the customizing tutorials, I don't know jack about that sort of thing
I'm going to keep them short & to the point. I believe every toy collector needs some basic customizing skills.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104219)
Posted by Overcracker on May 11th, 2021 @ 5:03pm CDT
The red on the Dino head is just lighting.
The Dalmatian spots are there, though confined to the gray area on his raptor back. you can just barely make out the black spots there in some pictures.
I'm on the fence. Don't know if I want this set. I already have Dinobot, and not sure I want Mirage that much even if he is a considerable retool from Siege.... Decisions... decisions.
Posted by Overcracker on May 11th, 2021 @ 5:03pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Surprised to see Grimlock not going for the dalmatian look. Also had to do a double take with the red on his dino head: turns out it's just lighting. Not in the cards yet for me I'm afraid...
Comparisons with Dinobot when?
The red on the Dino head is just lighting.
The Dalmatian spots are there, though confined to the gray area on his raptor back. you can just barely make out the black spots there in some pictures.
I'm on the fence. Don't know if I want this set. I already have Dinobot, and not sure I want Mirage that much even if he is a considerable retool from Siege.... Decisions... decisions.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104222)
Posted by Spider5800 on May 11th, 2021 @ 6:43pm CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on May 11th, 2021 @ 6:43pm CDT
That Tracks didn't turn out as bad as he originally looked, but still doesn't look great. Unfortunate, because he's one of my favorite characters. Still have my original Generations version of him, which is pretty outdated now, but this doesn't seem like much of an improvement.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104223)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
I may be splitting that 2 pk with someone, but I'm just not sold on that Mirage...
And I'm not the biggest fan of that character to begin with.
I could probably be swayed, but we'll see. I'd probably be completely okay with him if he was being sold with ER Sideswipe.
I like Tracks enough, but yeah, the feet being connected to the legs they way they are... Ugh.
I will say I think the face and head sculpts look really good. Even if they don't give me much of a cartoon vibe.
I think the other aspect that's a bit disappointing for me is that I always thought he was relatively tall, and this version looks a bit too short.
I have him preordered through Target... I'll probably stick with it, but there's definitely enough time to cancel.
And I'm not the biggest fan of that character to begin with.
I could probably be swayed, but we'll see. I'd probably be completely okay with him if he was being sold with ER Sideswipe.
I like Tracks enough, but yeah, the feet being connected to the legs they way they are... Ugh.
I will say I think the face and head sculpts look really good. Even if they don't give me much of a cartoon vibe.
I think the other aspect that's a bit disappointing for me is that I always thought he was relatively tall, and this version looks a bit too short.
I have him preordered through Target... I'll probably stick with it, but there's definitely enough time to cancel.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104224)
Posted by Whifflefire on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:05pm CDT
Posted by Whifflefire on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:05pm CDT
This set is tempting, as I don't have a Mirage myself (my brother does, and he's getting Dinobot, so I wouldn't be double dipping either way) and that Grimlock is the closest thing I could get to a toy of a character from "The Gathering". But I did just drop $50 on a Grimlock already this year, and the line of budget limitations has to be drawn somewhere... I'll have to wait a bit.
In other news, Waspinator confirmed...?
In other news, Waspinator confirmed...?
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104226)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:08pm CDT
Well let us know... I'm definitely interested and could see getting into customizing sooner than later.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:08pm CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I know I'd be watching all the customizing tutorials, I don't know jack about that sort of thing
I'm going to keep them short & to the point. I believe every toy collector needs some basic customizing skills.
Well let us know... I'm definitely interested and could see getting into customizing sooner than later.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104227)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:27pm CDT
I think Deluxe Class Waspinator was confirmed several months ago, when almost the entire Kingdom retail line-up was leaked by store inventory listings. He's expected in Wave 4, along with Slammer, Pipes, and Shadow Panther. There will be a Voyager Class Tigatron with a repack of Earthrise Starscream in Wave 4 as well.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:27pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:This set is tempting, as I don't have a Mirage myself (my brother does, and he's getting Dinobot, so I wouldn't be double dipping either way) and that Grimlock is the closest thing I could get to a toy of a character from "The Gathering". But I did just drop $50 on a Grimlock already this year, and the line of budget limitations has to be drawn somewhere... I'll have to wait a bit.
In other news, Waspinator confirmed...?
I think Deluxe Class Waspinator was confirmed several months ago, when almost the entire Kingdom retail line-up was leaked by store inventory listings. He's expected in Wave 4, along with Slammer, Pipes, and Shadow Panther. There will be a Voyager Class Tigatron with a repack of Earthrise Starscream in Wave 4 as well.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104228)
Posted by Whifflefire on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:40pm CDT
Ah. I knew about Tigatron and the others, but wasn't sure about Waspinator. Hopefully we'll see some more reveals soon, as there's another Hasbro fan-fest coming up.
Posted by Whifflefire on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:40pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Whifflefire wrote:This set is tempting, as I don't have a Mirage myself (my brother does, and he's getting Dinobot, so I wouldn't be double dipping either way) and that Grimlock is the closest thing I could get to a toy of a character from "The Gathering". But I did just drop $50 on a Grimlock already this year, and the line of budget limitations has to be drawn somewhere... I'll have to wait a bit.
In other news, Waspinator confirmed...?
I think Deluxe Class Waspinator was confirmed several months ago, when almost the entire Kingdom retail line-up was leaked by store inventory listings. He's expected in Wave 4, along with Slammer, Pipes, and Shadow Panther. There will be a Voyager Class Tigatron with a repack of Earthrise Starscream in Wave 4 as well.
Ah. I knew about Tigatron and the others, but wasn't sure about Waspinator. Hopefully we'll see some more reveals soon, as there's another Hasbro fan-fest coming up.
Re: War for Cybertron: Kingdom Amazon Exclusive Maximal Grimlock and Mirage Revealed and Up for Preorder (2104229)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:57pm CDT
And another retool into Hardhead.
It's a good mold, and I like Grimlock, he looks good even if the paint scheme isn't correct.
Not sure on Mirage, I don't need a 3rd from that mold of the same character, but I hate breaking sets
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:57pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Really diggin' that toy-style headsculpt on BW Grimlock. Hope the next time this mold gets some use it's a heavier retool for Thrustor
And another retool into Hardhead.
It's a good mold, and I like Grimlock, he looks good even if the paint scheme isn't correct.
Not sure on Mirage, I don't need a 3rd from that mold of the same character, but I hate breaking sets
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Posted by o.supreme on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:00pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:00pm CDT
Question: For anyone who got both Amazon sets (Ironhide/Prowl) & (Ramjet/Dirge), although the first is made of 2 deluxe, and the latter is made of 2 Voyagers, do the boxes still line up to make a collage?
I recognize this was the case in Siege with the Decepticon Phantomstrike set, and the Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce.
This newly revealed "Battle Across Time" seems to be version 3.0 of this specific type of release (2 specific releases that make a single collage) as opposed to the Galactic Odyssey sets. I'm sure we will probably get something more akin to them later in the year.
Here is a direct quote from the earlier rumor:
So either they got it mixed up, or a last minute change, but you can pretty clearly see Skywarp's feather's on the packaging for the revealed set. I guess we can assume he will come with an earthmode Sideswipe?
I do find it interesting that there will be two sets, all with heroic characters, fighting a fictional battle with Cons/Preds from the mainline. The difference here is one Maximal, and one Autobot per set, as opposed to one set with good characters, and the other with evil.
I recognize this was the case in Siege with the Decepticon Phantomstrike set, and the Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce.
This newly revealed "Battle Across Time" seems to be version 3.0 of this specific type of release (2 specific releases that make a single collage) as opposed to the Galactic Odyssey sets. I'm sure we will probably get something more akin to them later in the year.
Here is a direct quote from the earlier rumor:
Two Amazon multipacks coming in 2021, Earth Mode Sideswipe (retool) + Beast Wars Grimlock (voyager BW Dinobot redeco) and Earth Mode Mirage (same mold, new deco) + Beast Wars II Skywarp (the eagle figure that was part of Magnaboss but it doesn't combine)
So either they got it mixed up, or a last minute change, but you can pretty clearly see Skywarp's feather's on the packaging for the revealed set. I guess we can assume he will come with an earthmode Sideswipe?
I do find it interesting that there will be two sets, all with heroic characters, fighting a fictional battle with Cons/Preds from the mainline. The difference here is one Maximal, and one Autobot per set, as opposed to one set with good characters, and the other with evil.
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Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:03pm CDT
Posted by 1984forever on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:03pm CDT
If it turns out that Mirage’s missile launcher can’t be mounted on his shoulder, I’m canceling.
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Posted by Pax XilThalon on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:13pm CDT
Posted by Pax XilThalon on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:13pm CDT
It’s hard to see it first but when I got home I compared the pictures Kingdom Mirage vs Seige and there seems to actually a bit of retooling of the biceps. The new one seems the swing them all the way towards the back. Seige doesn’t do that and leaves a section of the back uncovered.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:18pm CDT
They do not, no.o.supreme wrote:Question: For anyone who got both Amazon sets (Ironhide/Prowl) & (Ramjet/Dirge), although the first is made of 2 deluxe, and the latter is made of 2 Voyagers, do the boxes still line up to make a collage?
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:34pm CDT
Yeah, if this ends up being the case, that will be really disappointing...
Especially since this is supposed to be the "earth" version. ???
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:34pm CDT
1984forever wrote:If it turns out that Mirage’s missile launcher can’t be mounted on his shoulder, I’m canceling.
Yeah, if this ends up being the case, that will be really disappointing...
Especially since this is supposed to be the "earth" version. ???
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Posted by aronjlove on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:45pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:45pm CDT
Mirage appears to have some pretty decent retooling. He has additional 5mm ports to either side of the driver's seat. The driver's seat looks more like a driver's seat and not some weird sci-fi cockpit. He's beefier, not sure if it is the torso or the changes to the arms in the shoulders and biceps. There's some steps forward but the lack of 5mm ports on the shoulders is one point of irritation to me. I have no attachment to BW Grimlock besides him being an in-fiction evolution of G1 Grimlock.
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Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:58pm CDT
The ninja craze of the 80s wouldn't happen for a couple more years. Even Snake-eyes was officially a "commando" and not really embracing the whole ninja thing until '85 (3 years after his first figure was released), the same year Tracks was released, and he still wouldn't be outright called a Ninja until . Ninja were mostly considered evil until the Ninja Turtles became big in '87 hence why Stormshadow was a ninja but Snake-eyes was a Commando that trained in ninjutsu, even by '93's Ninja Force he was changed to "Covert Mission Specialist", but not a ninja! '84/'85 Hasbro was never going to consider a heroic Autobot ninja and that's barely changed even today.
I'm a little upset by this. They used a lot of paint unnecessarily to give him what I would call a much worse result. They should have done the entire figure in white and gold plastic then used gold paint to clean up the legs (I HATE how the legs and feet are half colored now) and black/deep blue to paint the markings and bot head.
This figure is basically RID "Dinobot" Grimlock's color layout (the color breakup in the dino and bot arms) in BW Grimlock's colors.
Still buying it, but man, so much wasted potential.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:58pm CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Tracks is the perfect example of pointless & unnecessary changes they made to the cartoon. His original toy version looked like a badass ninja. Kinda like a male version of Nightbird. With the huge ninja craze of the 80's I'm surprised they didn't market him that way. He could have easily been the Transformers equivalent of Snake Eyes.
The ninja craze of the 80s wouldn't happen for a couple more years. Even Snake-eyes was officially a "commando" and not really embracing the whole ninja thing until '85 (3 years after his first figure was released), the same year Tracks was released, and he still wouldn't be outright called a Ninja until . Ninja were mostly considered evil until the Ninja Turtles became big in '87 hence why Stormshadow was a ninja but Snake-eyes was a Commando that trained in ninjutsu, even by '93's Ninja Force he was changed to "Covert Mission Specialist", but not a ninja! '84/'85 Hasbro was never going to consider a heroic Autobot ninja and that's barely changed even today.
Sabrblade wrote:They... They de-Dalmatian-ed Grimlock's deco.
I'm a little upset by this. They used a lot of paint unnecessarily to give him what I would call a much worse result. They should have done the entire figure in white and gold plastic then used gold paint to clean up the legs (I HATE how the legs and feet are half colored now) and black/deep blue to paint the markings and bot head.
This figure is basically RID "Dinobot" Grimlock's color layout (the color breakup in the dino and bot arms) in BW Grimlock's colors.
Still buying it, but man, so much wasted potential.
Emerje
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:06pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:06pm CDT
If it turns out the Kingdom Mirage really can't shoulder mount his cannon, I've got a back-up plan. I checked my Siege Mirage, and I'm pretty sure that I can just swap out the arms below the shoulders and the legs at the hip joints with those of Kingdom Mirage. That will give me a Mirage with cartoon accurate white arms and black shoulders, a more cartoon accurate torso without the 26 or "orc" tampographs, and new legs that aren't made out of potentially brittle transparent plastic. Of course, I'd still use the Siege shoulder cannon for more cartoon (and original toy) accuracy. My hope is that it still transforms without issue. If it doesn't, I may just settle for the original Siege release. If Kingdom Mirage does have shoulder mounts after all, I'll just stick with that one and give him the Siege version's more accurate black cannon.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:18pm CDT
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Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Not being able to shoulder mount is annoying, but I'm guessing someone will sell a 3D printed adapter on eBay. Just something that slots into that little thin gap and over his shoulder from behind would be perfect. I bought one for my Selects G2 Megatron and love it!
Emerje
Emerje
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:24pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:24pm CDT
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Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:48pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2021 @ 11:48pm CDT
Rodimus has some big mitts on him.
Emerje
Emerje
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Posted by Changewinds on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:38am CDT
Posted by Changewinds on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:38am CDT
I like the Grimlock head sculpt! Other than that, the robot mode ends up looking a little bland, almost like a duocon with the separation of colors. Beast mode is nice, though it makes me hope there’s a Netflix version of Dinobot down the line where they recolor the upper thigh and weapon tip to blend in more with the raptor form.
Not really interested in Mirage though so it’s a skip for me.
Not really interested in Mirage though so it’s a skip for me.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:20am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:20am CDT
Did anybody notice the Seeker jet on the side of the Grimlock/Mirage box? Perhaps that's a hint as to who is coming next?
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:45am CDT
That's probably just representing the Earthrise Starscream repack in the mainline, since Dinobot and Waspinator (both mainline releases) are also on the box in similar prominence.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:45am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did anybody notice the Seeker jet on the side of the Grimlock/Mirage box? Perhaps that's a hint as to who is coming next?
That's probably just representing the Earthrise Starscream repack in the mainline, since Dinobot and Waspinator (both mainline releases) are also on the box in similar prominence.
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Posted by Emerje on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:45am CDT
It's just Starscream.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 12th, 2021 @ 1:45am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did anybody notice the Seeker jet on the side of the Grimlock/Mirage box? Perhaps that's a hint as to who is coming next?
It's just Starscream.
Emerje
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Posted by RicaChero on May 12th, 2021 @ 2:10am CDT
I am one of those folks who sees the need for customizing at least a little. DO you need a project? I have a Fortress Maximus I am going to turn into a Zarak maximus I could use help on
Posted by RicaChero on May 12th, 2021 @ 2:10am CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I know I'd be watching all the customizing tutorials, I don't know jack about that sort of thing
I'm going to keep them short & to the point. I believe every toy collector needs some basic customizing skills.
I am one of those folks who sees the need for customizing at least a little. DO you need a project? I have a Fortress Maximus I am going to turn into a Zarak maximus I could use help on
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Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 9:57am CDT
Damn... If old Roddy isn't looking better every time I see him. Had I not already pre-ordered him, I'd be rushing to BBTS or Amazon to do just that with these pics.
The comparison with Prime there, mean s this thing even though at commander class price point will be smaller than PotP Rodimus in vehicle mode.
Hopefully the engineering and accessories make up that price difference.
Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 9:57am CDT
Damn... If old Roddy isn't looking better every time I see him. Had I not already pre-ordered him, I'd be rushing to BBTS or Amazon to do just that with these pics.
The comparison with Prime there, mean s this thing even though at commander class price point will be smaller than PotP Rodimus in vehicle mode.
Hopefully the engineering and accessories make up that price difference.
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Posted by aronjlove on May 12th, 2021 @ 10:11am CDT
Posted by aronjlove on May 12th, 2021 @ 10:11am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
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Posted by Bounti76 on May 12th, 2021 @ 11:30am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on May 12th, 2021 @ 11:30am CDT
Greetings one and all! Thanks to our fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade, we've been pointed to Takara Tomy's Twitter account, where they've revealed a handful of in-hand images of the upcoming Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime! The first few show the G1 cartoon Season 3's Autobot leader in a nice spot showing off some of his poseability in robot mode, and weapon storage in vehicle mode, including how to store the Sword of Primus underneath his space Winnebago mode.
Next up is a set showing off an nice pose with both his weapons, and his hand articulation, and its ability to point individual fingers.
And last, but not least, we have a fantastic comparison shot, showing him next to his predecessor, Optimus Prime, showing that he is indeed larger than Optimus.
So what are your thoughts? Is he already on your preorder list? If he's not, do these photos do anything to change that? Let us know what you think below!
Next up is a set showing off an nice pose with both his weapons, and his hand articulation, and its ability to point individual fingers.
And last, but not least, we have a fantastic comparison shot, showing him next to his predecessor, Optimus Prime, showing that he is indeed larger than Optimus.
So what are your thoughts? Is he already on your preorder list? If he's not, do these photos do anything to change that? Let us know what you think below!
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Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 11:45am CDT
It's funny, they went to the trouble of articulating his hands just so he could point at Galvatron accusingly and tell him "Its the end of the road..."
The fact he can store the sword under his Cybertronian crossover mode means all his weapons can be stored without needing his winnebago around, or if it's in Battle platform mode.
Anyway, can't wait for him to be released so I can add him to by siggy pic.
Have not updated it with SS86 Roddy for that very reason.
The fact he can store the sword under his Cybertronian crossover mode means all his weapons can be stored without needing his winnebago around, or if it's in Battle platform mode.
Anyway, can't wait for him to be released so I can add him to by siggy pic.
Have not updated it with SS86 Roddy for that very reason.
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Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:05pm CDT
Highly doubtful.
The Commander Class keeps getting weaker with every new release. I'm sure Hasbro is trying to figure out a way to squeeze Bumblebee into the Commander Class.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:05pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Hopefully the engineering and accessories make up that price difference.
Highly doubtful.
The Commander Class keeps getting weaker with every new release. I'm sure Hasbro is trying to figure out a way to squeeze Bumblebee into the Commander Class.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:18pm CDT
So far, Rodimus look amazing.
I've yet to see the weapon platform in its full glory.
I've yet to see the weapon platform in its full glory.
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Posted by MCutter on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:27pm CDT
Posted by MCutter on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:27pm CDT
Rodimus may be slightly taller than Optimus, but the real takeaway from that last picture is his enormous yaoi hands. 
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Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CDT
Making some comparison's, Rodimus is about MP-28's height which is taller, than PotP's Hot Rod. Also the only other Commander class figure in this type of Commander Class we have to compare to is Jetfire which is fairly simple in engineering even if it does include a ton of accessories.
I think most of the price is going into his transformation, the legs alone look like they do a lot to compress into his vehicle mode and the trailer is still a big honking piece of plastic there.
Posted by Overcracker on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Hopefully the engineering and accessories make up that price difference.Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Highly doubtful.
The Commander Class keeps getting weaker with every new release. I'm sure Hasbro is trying to figure out a way to squeeze Bumblebee into the Commander Class.
Making some comparison's, Rodimus is about MP-28's height which is taller, than PotP's Hot Rod. Also the only other Commander class figure in this type of Commander Class we have to compare to is Jetfire which is fairly simple in engineering even if it does include a ton of accessories.
I think most of the price is going into his transformation, the legs alone look like they do a lot to compress into his vehicle mode and the trailer is still a big honking piece of plastic there.
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Posted by o.supreme on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:59pm CDT
If anything however, it makes ER Optimus' hands look too tiny. I guess it is almost inevitable now that we will get an "Even More Accurate" Prime in CC within the next year or two. I personally don't want it, and don't really see how it is possible (ER is fine for me), but Hasbro will do it somehow... Beefing up mostly the trailer, but his body slightly also.
Posted by o.supreme on May 12th, 2021 @ 12:59pm CDT
If anything however, it makes ER Optimus' hands look too tiny. I guess it is almost inevitable now that we will get an "Even More Accurate" Prime in CC within the next year or two. I personally don't want it, and don't really see how it is possible (ER is fine for me), but Hasbro will do it somehow... Beefing up mostly the trailer, but his body slightly also.
