We Now Know all the Mainline Leader Class Releases for Legacy Line in 2023

Man I hope they get these twins right. They were 2 of my favorite cons on prime

william-james88 wrote:While the toys may still be in the production stage, orders are placed a year early. So that means that before the year ends we have a pretty good idea at many of next year's releases even if they won't be officially revealed for a while. For instance, thanks to JT Prime and Mr Chaos which have access to order forms, we know which leader class toys are coming out in the Transformers Legacy line next year.

And they are: Armada Megatron, Prime Skyquake and Prime Dreadwing

The only new listing is Dreadwing but we wanted to give a big picture of the Leader Class s a whole. There may be package refresh characters as well (meaning repacks of Legacy leaders) to fill out the waves.

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Prime Skyquake
product Number: F7216
EAN: 5010994207816

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Armada Megatron
Product Number: F7217
EAN: 5010994207786

Tra Gen Legacy EV leader Prime Dreadwing
EAN: 5010996150387

Interesting. Definitely getting Dreadwing. The original Voyager a great looking jet, that I never got but always wanted. Wonder what they can do to G1-ify him. Other than making his head a bit more square, more seeker like.


Armada Megs is still in the Maybe category. Need to see him before I decide.

I know there are a contingent of fans hoping for a Titan Class Tidal Wave based on a single video game appearance from the PS2. However...his predominant appearance in fiction- the Micron Legend/Armada as well as Super Link/Energon animated series is more fitting of a Commander Class. Also with a new Leader Armada Megatron coming in 2023, a CC Tidal Wave would pair up perfectly as armor for Armada Megatron, just as he was in the original series.

This would leave more anticipation for the Titan of 2023. Possibly a new Decepticon Nemesis ship with robot mode (Yes I know we have TR Trypticon but c'mon....)

oops. not again!

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Looking at next years leaders looks like Ill be saving me some money.

sol magnus wrote:What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Although it isn't stated, I think it's implied they just want you to go to YouTube and engage there. Even then, obviously response is limited. I have responded to a couple of videos in that thread, mostly the ones that also engage here in the forums at they are kind enough to reply with engaging comments. The ones just dumping don't.

Although it would be an interesting social experiment, If someone wants to leave a thoughtful response to one of the bigger YT posters, and see if you get anything greater than "nothing-a one sentence canned response"

Cyber Bishop wrote:Looking at next years leaders looks like Ill be saving me some money.

Same here. No hate against these characters, I watched their respective shows and loved them. However at the moment I am primarily concentrating G1 characters only. Even then it's just the ones I was particularly fond of as a kid.

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Still - it leaves a sour taste in the mouths of everyone who doesn't have a network of internal spies and thieves in the factories to give them the edge.

We literally told you exactly the website they get their early figures from, there is nothing hard about it, you just have to spend money. I only want to see a discussion on the legacy toys from here on out. If people want to discuss about getting toys early, please do it in another thread.

Which can be done here:

- https://www.allspark.com/forums/threads ... post-45224

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

That's not true. I've commented in several of the threads, and the OPs for a few have replied back.

Received Legacy RiD 2000 Scourge today. By the Gods, he's gorgeous.



Speedia line available in the UK through Smyths Toysif anyone didn't know:

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/toy ... SM06010123

~ Grim

primalxconvoy wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

That's not true. I've commented in several of the threads, and the OPs for a few have replied back.

Admittedly, I only looked at the first page, but there's a lot of threads on that page.

sol magnus wrote:Admittedly, I only looked at the first page, but there's a lot of threads on that page.

About half of the first page has comments.

primalxconvoy wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Admittedly, I only looked at the first page, but there's a lot of threads on that page.

About half of the first page has comments.

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Guess I should have scrolled more? I don't know what to tell you. There's still a dearth of un-commented threads.

I can only comment and support so many at any given time. Regardless, I don't just think it's a fault of the YouTubers for the lack of engagement at that sub-forum, but the fact that we can find YouTube videos easily via YouTube, threads specific to certain aspects of the fandom or the news pages of most TF sites. Another reason might be the clunky, non-visual and non-mobile friendly presentation/design of this site. Other sites use thumbnails and are easier to upload images to and edit text at, so this is a reason why I don't engage with the forums in those areas because it's easier to elsewhere. I feel it's a similar situation at the customs and fan art pages, etc.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Except for me, I'm the king of the fanboys after all.

You are the furthest from a fanboy, fanboys are toxic and literally destroy everything pleasant about whatever they are fans of, this you are not. Just look at what the fanboys have done to Star Wars and other franchises.
You are one of the few youtubers I actually respect and I do watch your videos. Most of the other clowns are attention whores.

Yes I said it, I have dealt with way too many people that claimed to be one way then turned out to be only in it for the attention they get.

o.supreme wrote:Well...I probably wouldn't quite put it that way, but I agree. Toy reviewers, like critics of any kind, are just sharing an opinion, which anyone can do. I've never been influenced by them.

I don't bullshit, I call it like I observe it and unfortunately there are too many mindless people out there who can't form their own conclusions on things and have to rely on others opinions/views to do so.

When I was doing text reviews for Inside Pulse about 15 years ago I jokingly crowned myself the king of the fanboys, different times then. In it for the attention? *Quickly hides banner of him recreating the classic Broadway Joe Namath ad with toys...*

blackeyedprime wrote:Last reviews I watched were Chucks Roborns and I usually watch Emgo/Benscollectables if I'm considering a pricey figure to know its warts n all.

I appreciate this sites photo stills from reviewers so I dont have to watch or give credit to them -and often it might keep the transformation or a little something as a surprise. Having said that I generally dislike most youtubers hahaha but in fairness to some of the major dubious source reviewers I think they have become better at reviews over the years (Tonton/Pvp). Then there is the reviewers that have the ability to grate the wrong way and I'd go out of my way to not see them when even Gifs of their face make me vomit a little.

As for Skullgrin, I'm not keen on the alt mode lump/exposed midsection having to be badly hidden by the swords and lack of a jaw. The impulse not buying was his size compared to the core pretender figures. Having said that with Thunderwing, Skyshadow, Metalhawk and baynus Bludgeon deluxes in my collection gives me a reason to pick him up, at least on sale anyways. Scratch that, I'm just rewatching Guyver and a Zoanoid looking bot has become a buy regardless of my dislikes and the soft plastic.

Without derailing the thread too much, I'm more excited for and enjoying those Unit Roborn figures than anything from Legacy thus far. The only thing that I think can top them are the Takara/Tomy Jobraver figures, which I'm really anxious to get to, they're like sitting there sealed in the Amazon Japan box.

I'm really excited for Skyquake and Dreadwing, the commander class figures from RID were two of my favorites, I never went for the larger-sized ones.

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Clarification: What I meant was, Chuck engages outside of the reviews forum, you can find him in other parts of the forums whereas some other reviewers just drop their videos and leave the site.

Burn wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Clarification: What I meant was, Chuck engages outside of the reviews forum, you can find him in other parts of the forums whereas some other reviewers just drop their videos and leave the site.

I'm everywhere, like a fungus.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Burn wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Clarification: What I meant was, Chuck engages outside of the reviews forum, you can find him in other parts of the forums whereas some other reviewers just drop their videos and leave the site.

I'm everywhere, like a fungus.

You're our little fun-gus. *pinches your cheek*

DeathReviews wrote:Boo on soft plastic in general. The only time I can see the excuse of using it is on parts that might get a lot of stress, and need some flexibility to keep them from snapping. But that doesn't seem to be the case with Legacy Skullgrin. None of the parts where they used soft plastic would seem to 'benefit' from it having been used. Especially those weapon accessories. Like Blitzwing's sword, there was no reason to use the rubbery materials, they just went cheap and lazy.

Using another reviewer that interacts on the forums and pulling things back to Legacy...

No solid/specific opinion on Skullgrin yet, want to see him in hand first, but generally not in favor of soft unless it is for stress purposes as you mentioned

I actually think Blitzwing's sword might have been the result of a material change after the mold layouts were set. The same rubbery material appears to have been used on at least 6 other parts; the wing tips, the top of the torso (between the head and shoulders connecting the chest piece to the back) and sides of the torso (connecting armpit to waist). Those other 6 parts all use pin joints, with the torso pieces subjected to a bit of torque during transformation.


It wouldn't surprise me if they were all supposed to be the same hard/paintable purple plastic as the other parts, but ran into issue of splitting some of those joints and needing something with some give, especially the sides of the torso. I think the sword might have just been a casualty of mold layout.

Edit: Upon further inspection the soft material had to be in the works from the start, there are a few more soft purple pieces and a number of tan ones too for 2 separate sprues. I think the sword was just a victim of whatever their mold layout rules, so probably falls under cheap and lazy of a reason enough.

Edit 2: I will say the soft tan material saved me on one of his forearm panels which was a little warped, but I was able to work back to straight.

Burn wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Burn wrote:You're one of the few that actually ENGAGES with the fandom and no just dump your reviews and run like those that infest the video reviews forum.

This right here.

I looked over that forum, and added a video while I was there. What I saw was a list of reviews with views, but no comments whatsoever. How can you engage if no one has anything to say to you?

Clarification: What I meant was, Chuck engages outside of the reviews forum, you can find him in other parts of the forums whereas some other reviewers just drop their videos and leave the site.

And I knew exactly what you were talking about too.

Can't wait for Skyquake and Dreadwing. I'm a big fan of jetformers, especially larger ones. And I also liked both their characters on the show. So bring them on! As for Armada Megatron, I'm actually still very happy with my original Micron Legends figure so this will be a hard sell. But not impossible. I'm down for Armada Starscream after all, even though I love the original. Waiting for Thundercracker and Skywarp, as usual.

While I want to be excited for Dreadwing and Skyquake, I've already been let down 3 times. I wonder how they will approach them. I really think we are just going to end up with the leader class Classics Seeker mold this time, which I really do not want.

Anyways, have a Menasor. I really want to get the rest of the bots now.

Have you tried to attach the CW limbs to his legs, just for kicks? (Pun intended.) Also, he needs longer thighs, like WFC Magnus did.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Have you tried to attach the CW limbs to his legs, just for kicks? (Pun intended.) Also, he needs longer thighs, like WFC Magnus did.

They are all still in moving totes, but I know others have and the legs sort of work.

I agree, the longer thighs are about the only thing I think he actually needs an improvement on

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Have you tried to attach the CW limbs to his legs, just for kicks? (Pun intended.) Also, he needs longer thighs, like WFC Magnus did.

They are all still in moving totes, but I know others have and the legs sort of work.

I agree, the longer thighs are about the only thing I think he actually needs an improvement on

Go watch That Toy Guys Motor master video. He shows it. I thought it looked hilarious.

Oh you poor souls who have chosen torcher by having your Menasor figures on display wafting for the missing members.... .


Anyway I saw a Metroplex on eBay go for $140 minus shipping and I thought if anyone got it at an even greater deal... .

And DNA Designs put out an upgrade set for Scourge that looks pretty impressive.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Oh you poor souls who have chosen torcher by having your Menasor figures on display wafting for the missing members.... .


Anyway I saw a Metroplex on eBay go for $140 minus shipping and I thought if anyone got it at an even greater deal... .

And DNA Designs put out an upgrade set for Scourge that looks pretty impressive.

My $42 USD Laser Optimus Prime cannot beat that. What will you get with the leftovers?

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My $42 USD Laser Optimus Prime cannot beat that.

I got a second Sludge for 35.99 from a brick and mortar Target

Nemesis Destron wrote:Oh you poor souls who have chosen torcher by having your Menasor figures on display wafting for the missing members.... .

I know right?I refuse to even transform Menasor until I have all the limbs.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Oh you poor souls who have chosen torcher by having your Menasor figures on display wafting for the missing members.... .

Cyber Bishop wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My $42 USD Laser Optimus Prime cannot beat that.

I got a second Sludge for 35.99 from a brick and mortar Target

Very, very cool.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Oh you poor souls who have chosen torcher by having your Menasor figures on display wafting for the missing members.... .

I know right?I refuse to even transform Menasor until I have all the limbs.

My review goes up on Thursday. I'm not even doing the Menasor thing. Menasor will get his own review when you can complete Menasor.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My $42 USD Laser Optimus Prime cannot beat that.

I got a second Sludge for 35.99 from a brick and mortar Target

That's pretty good, but I get my transformers for 0$

william-james88 wrote:I am the total opposite, penniless. So much so that all I could buy today was whatever cost me $0.00, luckily, there was something at that price at Walmart.





No joke, no conniving tricks, $0.00 for one step barricade. And the cashier was more than happy to charge me that with 0 problems.

Kanrabat will understand, its a Quebec thing.

william-james88 wrote:Another day, another free one step courtesy of Walmart

Dat 1 step at zero...

Oh yeah, I use this Right a lot. And it's for EVERYTHING.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Dat 1 step at zero...

Oh yeah, I use this Right a lot. And it's for EVERYTHING.

*confused*

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:*confused*

You should be.

Since over 10 years, there's a law in Quebec (Canada) that state that if the scanned price is higher than the matching label that was displayed on the shelf (with matching barcodes, of course) you get the lowest price minus 5$CAN in "punitive damage". If the total price gets in the negative, the item is free. In case you buy multiple, ONE item gets the punitive 5$ off extra while the rest is sold at the lowest price.

Since years this allowed me to get "free" stuff or heavily discounted things like 10$CAN voyagers or huge slabs of pork meat at 2$CAN a KILO.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:*confused*

You should be.

Since over 10 years, there's a law in Quebec (Canada) that state that if the scanned price is higher than the matching label that was displayed on the shelf (with matching barcodes, of course) you get the lowest price minus 5$CAN in "punitive damage". If the total price gets in the negative, the item is free. In case you buy multiple, ONE item gets the punitive 5$ off extra while the rest is sold at the lowest price.

Since years this allowed me to get "free" stuff or heavily discounted things like 10$CAN voyagers or huge slabs of pork meat at 2$CAN a KILO.

Cool!

Legendary




He's definitely part of my group of highlights for the year so far. It's been a great year

william-james88 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My $42 USD Laser Optimus Prime cannot beat that.

I got a second Sludge for 35.99 from a brick and mortar Target

That's pretty good, but I get my transformers for 0$

william-james88 wrote:I am the total opposite, penniless. So much so that all I could buy today was whatever cost me $0.00, luckily, there was something at that price at Walmart.





No joke, no conniving tricks, $0.00 for one step barricade. And the cashier was more than happy to charge me that with 0 problems.

Kanrabat will understand, its a Quebec thing.

william-james88 wrote:Another day, another free one step courtesy of Walmart

I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

Well, vive le Québec!

And you know the best part?
The way the taxes are calculated is they calculate the federal tax first, add the total, then the Quebec tax is calculated.

TlDr; we tax the tax! Only in Quebec!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

Well, vive le Québec!

And you know the best part?
The way the taxes are calculated is they calculate the federal tax first, add the total, then the Quebec tax is calculated.

TlDr; we tax the tax! Only in Quebec!

Ahhh government efficiency. The only thing the government is efficient at is taking your money away.

First-Aid wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

Well, vive le Québec!

And you know the best part?
The way the taxes are calculated is they calculate the federal tax first, add the total, then the Quebec tax is calculated.

TlDr; we tax the tax! Only in Quebec!

Ahhh government efficiency. The only thing the government is efficient at is taking your money away.

U.S.-motif aside, this is applicable for pretty much any country with a lousy government.

Nemesis Destron wrote:And DNA Designs put out an upgrade set for Scourge that looks pretty impressive.

I admit, that is sorely tempting. Scourge is awesome but could use a better blaster.

~ Grim

For those of you wondering how you can integrate the gun tower with Legacy Menasor....I give you....

Jet Mode ! don't judge me

Honestly from the front however, it dosen't look that bad, although it does limit the arm articulation a bit.

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

tradingeconomics.com is a great resource to see just how much we aren't getting....

First-Aid wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

That's the point, it's a trade off. If you could easily see and feel your tax dollars at work, you may have a different outlook.
However income tax is not 50% in Canada. It turns out that federal income tax in Canada is very similar to the US for the middle class, on average. The big difference is how that money is spent.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

That's the point, it's a trade off. If you could easily see and feel your tax dollars at work, you may have a different outlook.
However income tax is not 50% in Canada. It turns out that federal income tax in Canada is very similar to the US for the middle class, on average. The big difference is how that money is spent.

Oh I know that. Canadian income tax is 33 percent. If you add the 15% sales tax to the 33%, plus other assumed fees and taxes that's how you get 50%. It's not other taxes lkike property, school, gas, internet/phone, roads, etc. Those are separate but do end up taking in excess of 50% of income in the end.

Could be worse...could be Denmark. 25% sales tax and 55.9% income tax...that's 80% of income. Could you imagine making $20 an hour and walking with 3 bucks?

Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/pe ... e-tax-rate

Blitzwing arrived from Amazon today, pretty neat figure though it was a bit of a chore to transform to Bot mode being a triple changer. lol

And since it's not in a window box I guess they didn't feel the need to package it in bot mode, guess I've gotten spoiled in that regard not having to do it myself upon opening them. I wonder if Motormaster will be packaged the same way, or any Legacy figure that doesn't have an opening?