Will There Be Three TRANSFORMERS Human Alliance Sets For ROTF?

Decepticon Spike wrote:I would hope not, but seeing as deluxe went from $8.99 to $14.99 around here, it may be close.

Sign of the times. $US weakness means it buys less on world markets when retailers buy goods to stock shelves which means higher prices for the end consumer.

Wait so those crappy human figures are $7? Those bots better be bigger than voyagers for $30.

If Prime is one of them, maybe it will come with a mini Peter Cullen?

The reason that the prices went up is because of the testing that all toys sold in the US must go under for lead paint. Remember that whole lead paint scare about a little over a year ago? A new federal law that went into effect on 2/1/09 mandated that items sold for children, including toys, be tested for lead paint, which in effect drives up costs, and we get to foot the bill. there ya go, your lovely US gov't at work.

Bumblethumper wrote:For the other, maybe Jolt or Sideswipe. It'd be nice if they were all in scale with each other and Alternators.

Fat chance. Ironhide and Prime would have to be much larger, and more expensive.

Bumblethumper wrote:It also says there'll be 24 deluxes and 11 voyagers. That ROTF line is going to be huge.

Yeah, and I'm worried they're churning out so many figures that most will be crap.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:Wait so those crappy human figures are $7? Those bots better be bigger than voyagers for $30.

We've already been told that they're Voyager. Apart from a little person we have to pay for inflation, extra safety control and A REALLY COOL LOOKING COMPLICATED ROBOT.

I don't like having Autobots without a corresponding Decep and vice versa so it'd be a shame if they don't give us some Deceps but I know it'll never happen. Bring back Arkevil!

Well, there could be a Decepticon for the movie line... I mean, isn't the female Terminator / Pretender suppose to be in this flick? Maybe she "ejects" from a car in the same way Frenzy did with Barricade.

Hmmm... just a thought... maybe she's Frenzy's brother Rumble!

Didn't Megan Fox say she didn't want any action figures made of her?

Diem wrote:Didn't Megan Fox say she didn't want any action figures made of her?

Her character is property HASBRO and Paramount. Unless it is in her contract, I would say can make any requests she wants, but ultimately the choice is the people who own her character's likeness.

Bumblethumper wrote:
I was assuming the human action figures would all be the same size, and if that were the case, they couldn't really include large characters like Optimus, and keep the same price point.

Except your also assuming that they three figures will be perfectly to scale...Hasbro hasn't exactly been known for putting scale as a priority...Bumblebee may very well just be large compared to OP and Ironhide...

thedarkjester wrote:The reason that the prices went up is because of the testing that all toys sold in the US must go under for lead paint. Remember that whole lead paint scare about a little over a year ago? A new federal law that went into effect on 2/1/09 mandated that items sold for children, including toys, be tested for lead paint, which in effect drives up costs, and we get to foot the bill. there ya go, your lovely US gov't at work.

Well it's not the US Government that's using lead-paint on our children's toys...The toys we import from overseas are SUPPOSED to be lead-free...Now that it's turning out that they aren't, a higher level of precaution is needed...

thedarkjester wrote:The reason that the prices went up is because of the testing that all toys sold in the US must go under for lead paint. Remember that whole lead paint scare about a little over a year ago? A new federal law that went into effect on 2/1/09 mandated that items sold for children, including toys, be tested for lead paint, which in effect drives up costs, and we get to foot the bill. there ya go, your lovely US gov't at work.

Yeah, how dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint. Who cares if kids end up retarded? It far more important for you to save a few bucks on your toys, isn't it?

Diem wrote:Didn't Megan Fox say she didn't want any action figures made of her?

It's a bit late for that, there were already 2 released in the Movie Scene sets last time around.

GuyIncognito wrote:

thedarkjester wrote:The reason that the prices went up is because of the testing that all toys sold in the US must go under for lead paint. Remember that whole lead paint scare about a little over a year ago? A new federal law that went into effect on 2/1/09 mandated that items sold for children, including toys, be tested for lead paint, which in effect drives up costs, and we get to foot the bill. there ya go, your lovely US gov't at work.

Yeah, how dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint. Who cares if kids end up retarded? It far more important for you to save a few bucks on your toys, isn't it?

No I was just stating the fact that the testing was one reason prices were going up. I'd prefer safer toys than dangerous ones, even though I think someone should bring back Lawn Darts

Mykltron wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:For the other, maybe Jolt or Sideswipe. It'd be nice if they were all in scale with each other and Alternators.

Fat chance. Ironhide and Prime would have to be much larger, and more expensive.

Obviously(I mentioned this in my other post), but when were they confirmed?

GuyIncognito wrote:

thedarkjester wrote:The reason that the prices went up is because of the testing that all toys sold in the US must go under for lead paint. Remember that whole lead paint scare about a little over a year ago? A new federal law that went into effect on 2/1/09 mandated that items sold for children, including toys, be tested for lead paint, which in effect drives up costs, and we get to foot the bill. there ya go, your lovely US gov't at work.

Yeah, how dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint. Who cares if kids end up retarded? It far more important for you to save a few bucks on your toys, isn't it?

well , if parents would use common sense, and stop their kids from putting toys in their mouths, trying to eat them, there would be no need for these type of laws.

GuyIncognito wrote:Yeah, how dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint. Who cares if kids end up retarded? It far more important for you to save a few bucks on your toys, isn't it?

Actually what you say with sarcasm, I say with conviction. "How dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint." It's none of their slagging business and it's a waste of my cash and the freedom of a toy company to choose how to do it's business. Such safety concerns should be driven by the free markets not a few scared parents and a pushy couple of congressmen.

Decepticon Spike wrote:well , if parents would use common sense, and stop their kids from putting toys in their mouths, trying to eat them, there would be no need for these type of laws.

Wow...you obviously don't have kids to say something that ignorant...

Simply astounding...

Scaleface wrote:
Actually what you say with sarcasm, I say with conviction. "How dare the US gov't try to protect children from the potential brain damage caused by lead paint." It's none of their slagging business and it's a waste of my cash and the freedom of a toy company to choose how to do it's business. Such safety concerns should be driven by the free markets not a few scared parents and a pushy couple of congressmen.

And just exactly how are parents supposed to know if the toy is damaging to their child in that way? It's not like they come with labels that say "Oh by the way this toy will **** up your kid so consider yourself warned!" I'm pretty goddamn glad there is some sort of agency that's looking out for this stuff... and if the "free markets" you have so much faith in were actually doing their jobs, there wouldn't be a need for government intervention...

Don't get me wrong...At times I think toy safety-laws go a little far...I don't know any kid that ever stabbed himself in the eye with Optimus Primes shoulders...But lead-paint is severely damaging and dangerous (especially for children) and illegal to use on toys in this country...

If there was a need for this sort of testing, toy companies can form groups that voluntarely test for such things and label them. I could easily see some sort of "tested lead free" sticker that sme companies could come up with, or a consumers reports type group. Thing is it would be VOLUNTARY. When a person goes to buy a toy they would then decided if lead was a concern and putchase a toy that is "certified lead free" or not. If a parent has a toddler that chews things, he might look for this on the package. If I'm buying a TF for myself, or for a teenage kid who doesn't chew things, I wouldn't care to check for it. Toy companies would weigh the costs of testing and the target selling group for a toy and decide which toys they want to test and which toys have no real demand for it.

It's called freedom of, please respect it. I can't stand when some liberal minded, saftey conscious busy body decids to wipe their jack boots on the freedom of others in the name of "keeping children safe." You have no right to make LEGAL demands on others for your over-extended idea of public safety. I won't be wishy washy about it - I take great offense at the attacks on the free market this sort of law represents.

Scaleface wrote:If there was a need for this sort of testing, toy companies can form groups that voluntarely test for such things and label them. I could easily see some sort of "tested lead free" sticker that sme companies could come up with, or a consumers reports type group. Thing is it would be VOLUNTARY. When a person goes to buy a toy they would then decided if lead was a concern and putchase a toy that is "certified lead free" or not. If a parent has a toddler that chews things, he might look for this on the package. If I'm buying a TF for myself, or for a teenage kid who doesn't chew things, I wouldn't care to check for it. Toy companies would weigh the costs of testing and the target selling group for a toy and decide which toys they want to test and which toys have no real demand for it.

It's called freedom of, please respect it. I can't stand when some liberal minded, saftey conscious busy body decids to wipe their jack boots on the freedom of others in the name of "keeping children safe." You have no right to make LEGAL demands on others for your over-extended idea of public safety. I won't be wishy washy about it - I take great offense at the attacks on the free market this sort of law represents.

Alright...You've made your point and I understand your perspective...It might be different though if you had kids...

I'm not going to keep fighting about this because it's off-topic anyway...

I have NINE nieces and nephews who I love greatly, and I only get them toys appropriate to their age.

Scaleface wrote:I have NINE nieces and nephews who I love greatly, and I only get them toys appropriate to their age.

But what happens if they share, some of the older kids toys, and younger kids. If they are not all lead free tested, then you have problems that you may not have considered having.

I am not sure I see an issue with lead paint standards and testing if it so severely can impair a child, or why anyone else would.

Children are our most precious natural resource. Why would you not do everything within your power, or want everything there to protect them.

I understand we have a government with its nose in everything, passing laws that are practically impossible for so many different areas. I teach. NCLB has just made things even worse for districts who are already money deprived, and trying to teach children the right way, but now we have to teach them how to test, and what will be on the test.

The issue is not the law or the standards, it's the overactive government feeling the need to get into everything, and take away so many private choices, and basically taking the word privacy, and choice out of our vocabulary.

But, in this case, I believe the law is a good one, and is something the government should concern themselves in.

I already take into account household that have a mix of children and toddlers.

The issue is not whether lead is a good thing in children's toys. It's whether you respect basic freedoms of association and the free market or want to live in a world where the government babysits your kids for you.

If you are concerned with lead, then only purchase toys from companies who have strict anti-lead policies and testing. Hasbro was very proud of the fact that they have NOT had any lead issues through the whole lead scare last year. They already had matters in hand. The draconian laws prohibiting the sale of any untested children's product are unAmerican. They are yet another extension of the socialist nanny state. No amount of "it's for the kids safety, you don't want to see kids hurt do you?" will excuse it.

How dare anyone use the false arguement of protecting babies to shove socialism down our throats at the point of a government rifle. You see that's what you do when you pass these laws. You decide that something is so dangerous that it cannot be allowed to be done under any circumstance, and if anyone tries it they should be jailed. I am NOT convinced that the sale of a cheap baseball that hasn't been tested for lead content in a dollar store to a teenager is such a dangerous thing that the seller of the baseball should put in jail. If you are in favor of this new law, you think he should be jailed. It's that simple.

Agreed.

I think that if they made Human Alliance Prime he could come with Sam in his final battle clothes (with damage) and the cast on his hand. Prime could have some nice features as well. For instance:
-Both guns that come from his back
-Attachable and detachable swords and battle hooks(so they don't get in the way of transformation)
-Sliding Mask

primebot96 wrote:8) I think that if they made Human Alliance Prime he could come with Sam in his final battle clothes (with damage) and the cast on his hand. Prime could have some nice features as well. For instance:
-Both guns that come from his back
-Attachable and detachable swords and battle hooks(so they don't get in the way of transformation)
-Sliding Mask

They haven't squeezed all that into a leader class yet. So far they've used small vehicles for this line so a truck is unlikely as it'd either be huge or out of scale with everthing else.

Mykltron wrote:They haven't squeezed all that into a leader class yet. So far they've used small vehicles for this line so a truck is unlikely as it'd either be huge or out of scale with everthing else.

Can't imagine it would be nearly as cool as leader Prime anyhow... The HA aspects would likely lead to a disappointing bot mode.

Kibble wrote:

Mykltron wrote:They haven't squeezed all that into a leader class yet. So far they've used small vehicles for this line so a truck is unlikely as it'd either be huge or out of scale with everthing else.

Can't imagine it would be nearly as cool as leader Prime anyhow... The HA aspects would likely lead to a disappointing bot mode.

If they'd omitted the electronics in the leader they could have easily given him a realistic interior.