Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Added to Hasbro US Catalog

I got MP Optimus Prime for $99 when he came out. Why would I spend $99 for a far inferior, far small figure?

Black Bumblebee wrote:I got MP Optimus Prime for $99 when he came out. Why would I spend $99 for a far inferior, far small figure?

Sad thing is, I bet due to the price a lot of people are gonna think it's some huge, awesome figure at least the size of a Leader or some such and that'll entice them to get it... and then when it arrives at their door they're sorely disappointed.

Honestly I'd just get the Thrilling 30 Legends Optimus if I wanted him in that scale.

junky. especially the truck mode.

This thing is absolutely atrocious. I love collecting Optimus Primes, and although if you have MP-10 (which I do), then you really don't need any other, especially some inferior, grotesque creation. I'm really disappointed too, because I was born in the year of the Rooster, so I was really hoping for something special, maybe a beast wars rooster? This is so lackluster, and it's a DECADE+ old toy that Takara is just now giving to Hasbro? Give me a break. NOPE. Do not buy.



KVO Prime

It's available for a while on Walmart.ca
http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/transformer ... 0196611276
But holy crap, that price is RIDICULOUS. I'll wait for clearance and even then, I'm not sure if I'll ever buy. I already have over 9000 Optimuses afterall.

how tall is? will it fit with my Legion class collection?

BERSEKAEL wrote:how tall is? will it fit with my Legion class collection?

I was about to point out a video review of the old Takara version. But no one seem to have bothered to make any comparison shots! At least, I know it's 4" tall so it's scout size.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:how tall is? will it fit with my Legion class collection?

I was about to point out a video review of the old Takara version. But no one seem to have bothered to make any comparison shots! At least, I know it's 4" tall so it's scout size.

Found this pic via Google:



That's next to Prime Beast Hunters Predacons Rising Cyberverse Commander class Optimus Prime.

BERSEKAEL wrote:how tall is? will it fit with my Legion class collection?

It's about the size of a Scout/Legends toy.
Voyager is to Deluxe, as this Prime is to Legion.

So, that's a G1 style Cyberverse Optimus Prime box set for 184$CAN (141$US) total with taxes.
Oh joy.

That price is really "French translation for late".

are you fucking me? $100 for a glorified figma? it better clean your house for that price. third party companies give you better deals than that!

Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

Didnt they? I thought they doomed the entire brand and it wasnt profitable in the states again until Beast Wars came along.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

Didnt they? I thought they doomed the entire brand and it wasnt profitable in the states again until Beast Wars came along.

It was a combination of factors, really, and Action Masters was I think a relatively minor one.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

Didnt they? I thought they doomed the entire brand and it wasnt profitable in the states again until Beast Wars came along.

It didn't die out over in Europe, Japan, and Australasia.

rockman_fan wrote:are you **** me? $100 for a glorified figma? it better clean your house for that price. third party companies give you better deals than that!

In all fairness a figma made of die cast with a ton of parts and a (comparatively) huge playset base would cost a lot more than $100.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

Didnt they? I thought they doomed the entire brand and it wasnt profitable in the states again until Beast Wars came along.

It didn't die out over in Europe, Japan, and Australasia.

Yep, it only died in the place that mattered.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Burn wrote:Just save your money guys, it's NOT a great figure. He killed the Hybrid line.

Like how Action Masters killed G1?

Didnt they? I thought they doomed the entire brand and it wasnt profitable in the states again until Beast Wars came along.

It didn't die out over in Europe, Japan, and Australasia.

Yep, it only died in the place that mattered.

Emerje

If it did die in Europe, G2 would have never gotten off the G1 re-release track.

Sabrblade wrote:Found this pic via Google:



That's next to Prime Beast Hunters Predacons Rising Cyberverse Commander class Optimus Prime.

Dang, shorter than I remember! He is pretty decent as a "mini-MP", but the transformation is a bit fiddly due to the his size.

Sure the scale sucks but it's a good figure (emphasis on "figure". Also, when I bought the fig (first released a few years back) he cost a little more or less US$ 50.00 (but it's 2ndary market prices has appreciated waaaaaaaay too high). By the time I realized he was worth it, I lost the opportunity to get a freebie WST Hotrodimus included with the first batch orders.

Also, he was no different from THS-01. Both were weenie minis but chalk full of accessories.

There were even plans by KOers to upsized him but too bad. If he was like Deluxe or Voyager? He would be awesome!

Ok, it's been a year, but no sign of the next Chinese New Year release (Year of the Dog). Did it die along with the Platinum Editions?

Ha! Funny Jelze, I was just thinking about this today.
I think they are both done and gone.

Did this one even come out?

Cobotron wrote:Ha! Funny Jelze, I was just thinking about this today.
I think they are both done and gone.

Shame. Funny how they stopped at no. 6 out of 12, wouldn't it have been great to have all 12?

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

Not in the US I'm afraid. YotR Optimus Prime was a Taipei Movie & Toy Convention 2016 exclusive at first, but Walmart Canada got some stock as well.

In short, very very limited release compared to the rest.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, it's been a year, but no sign of the next Chinese New Year release (Year of the Dog). Did it die along with the Platinum Editions?

Blame the poor sales.
Many YOT__ were odd choices with odd colors. Plus the main problem were the very high prices. Hell, YOTM Optimus Primal is still found aplenty in TrU, shelfwarming hard. Even on "sale".

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

Not in the US I'm afraid. YotR Optimus Prime was a Taipei Movie & Toy Convention 2016 exclusive at first, but Walmart Canada got some stock as well.

In short, very very limited release compared to the rest.

Walmart Mexico got it in as well. However as far as I know its only available online for $2599 that's around $130 US depending on current exchange rates.

https://www.walmart.com.mx/juguetes/Fig ... 3050951770

It's pretty much the only Platinum Figure I've seen in Mexico's regular retail even if its online only.

Overcracker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

Not in the US I'm afraid. YotR Optimus Prime was a Taipei Movie & Toy Convention 2016 exclusive at first, but Walmart Canada got some stock as well.

In short, very very limited release compared to the rest.

Walmart Mexico got it in as well. However as far as I know its only available online for $2599 that's around $130 US depending on current exchange rates.

https://www.walmart.com.mx/juguetes/Fig ... 3050951770

It's pretty much the only Platinum Figure I've seen in Mexico's regular retail even if its online only.

That garbage is a Year of the Something toy?
It's in Canada at Walmart.ca as well

https://www.walmart.ca/fr/ip/transforme ... 0196611276

160$CAN plus taxes is an absurd price for this.

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

I can always get it for you and send it over

https://www.walmart.ca/fr/ip/transforme ... 0196611276

Also, you guys forget that the new year is in February, so there is still time for something to come up.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Did this one even come out?

Not that I'm aware of. Kinda wanted it.

Not in the US I'm afraid. YotR Optimus Prime was a Taipei Movie & Toy Convention 2016 exclusive at first, but Walmart Canada got some stock as well.

In short, very very limited release compared to the rest.

Walmart Mexico got it in as well. However as far as I know its only available online for $2599 that's around $130 US depending on current exchange rates.

https://www.walmart.com.mx/juguetes/Fig ... 3050951770

It's pretty much the only Platinum Figure I've seen in Mexico's regular retail even if its online only.

That garbage is a Year of the Something toy?
It's in Canada at Walmart.ca as well

https://www.walmart.ca/fr/ip/transforme ... 0196611276

160$CAN plus taxes is an absurd price for this.

It's not horrible, its just very very "wee". And fiddly as all get out. Also the truck mode is less than great.


Its price should not have been over $100 for any reason. As it is, yes its quite expensive for what you get.

No surprise the THS or Hybrid Style line ended after 2 molds and 1 repaint.

Even if back when it was released the first time it was nowhere near this expensive.

All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!



The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.


Also, how many G1 Optimus do we need? They should have went with Cybertron Hybrid Convoy instead. It's much better looking in all modes and way more interesting.



It's also much bigger.



Maybe I would pay the 160$ for it. Because on Ebay, Hybrid Galaxy Convoy is 250$ plus shipping at the minimum.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.

You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.

You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.

Oh, true. In that case, this little guy will fit perfectly:



Er.... those feet will need some serious modding.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, how many G1 Optimus do we need? They should have went with Cybertron Hybrid Convoy instead. It's much better looking in all modes and way more interesting.



It's also much bigger.



Maybe I would pay the 160$ for it. Because on Ebay, Hybrid Galaxy Convoy is 250$ plus shipping at the minimum.

I've ton of regrets during my collector life, ton of TFs I didn't buy back in time and which I can't afford today.

But this one is one of the few non-regrets I have


(2006 purchase, at its release)

In fairness a lot of people in North America passed on HS Galaxy Convoy back then because he was basically the same price as the full size Cybertron Optimus Prime. If we only knew then what we know now.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:In fairness a lot of people in North America passed on HS Galaxy Convoy back then because he was basically the same price as the full size Cybertron Optimus Prime. If we only knew then what we know now.

Emerje

That's also what I've been told on the French forums back in time. I was stupid to get this one on the same price as the regular one, I was supporting Takara into doing stupid overpriced non-g1 products and such.. (yes fr forums are 99% geewun).

Should I said that I also got most of the robomasters at their release, when they where all 15$ ?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.

You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.

Oh, true. In that case, this little guy will fit perfectly:



Er.... those feet will need some serious modding.

Eh, the Hybrid Style mold is more like a Scout class of the Cybertron days than the Legends class of today, so it is smaller than a Deluxe but not quite as small as that Legends class OP.

-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?

Not really. Hybrid is so bad, that even the MP-01 and Classic deluxe, ones that have infamous bad truck mode, are ashamed of it. Hybrid flaunt his diecast with pride because he's so "premium", all while ignoring the others who are red with shame.

As a comparison for newcomers:

Classic deluxe:



MP-01

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?

Not really. Hybrid is so bad, that even the MP-01 and Classic deluxe, ones that have infamous bad truck mode, are ashamed of it. Hybrid flaunt his diecast with pride because he's so "premium", all while ignoring the others who are red with shame.

As a comparison for newcomers:

Classic deluxe:

That's a custom by Jarrod.

Real one is kind of a mess --



It's time for a proper Deluxe-class cartoon-accurate Optimus Prime.

Cyberpath wrote:It's time for a proper Deluxe-class cartoon-accurate Optimus Prime.

For now, the G1 original is still the best of the best "classic style" "deluxe" Optimus Prime.

Guess no one cares for ill or for good about the RobotMasters mold.

I didn't even know RM Optimus existed. What's his size? Would it be in scale with the Hybrid trailer?

Also, both truck and bot modes are not perfect, but they are certainly decent enough. But not enough for me to pay the 70$+ the aftermarket ask for.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I didn't even know RM Optimus existed. What's his size?

A small Deluxe.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, both truck and bot modes are not perfect, but they are certainly decent enough. But not enough for me to pay the 70$+ the aftermarket ask for.

Try the version sold in the toyline called Legend Commander Collection.

Sabrblade wrote:Guess no one cares for ill or for good about the RobotMasters mold.

I actually rather like this figure (I have the "LC-01" reissue) -- unfortunately, it's smaller than a Deluxe so it's out of place with my Takara Legends. But really, time for a Deluxe Prime that can absorb all his wheels in robot-mode; a perfect face/head sculpt; retractable thighs, etc.
MP-10 is so popular and gets reissued all the time, why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?

Hybrid Style Galaxy Convoy is a $90-$100 toy. Don't pay more than that. I'm not saying you can go on eBay whenever and pay that, mind you, but if you exercise some patience that's an appropriate range

Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?

It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?

It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.

There's this, for one. For another, Optimus Prime toys sell, so they're going to look at higher price/margin size classes to mitigate risks carried by some of the other choices in the size class (example: Leader Blaster)

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?

It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.

They release him in every size-class though, so it's probably not that. Although I want a Deluxe I'm talking more about the design. Why haven't they made a proper CHUG figure of his iconic incarnation instead (or in addition to) all the gimmicky toys of him -- combiner, headmaster, triple-changer, powermaster, etc. For sure they know how to hide wheels now (and if the LG Headmasters are anything to go by) make perfect head-sculpts that look like 3D screen-grabs from the cartoon.
I'd be okay with Legend class, too. (Leader-class would be redundant with MP-10 around.)