Late Wave Power of the Prime toys found at Family Dollar

Neat, though I'm glad I already have these as my two local Family Dollar stores closed down a few years ago. One became a Dollar General while the other is still vacant (it was a temp Spirit of Halloween store last month).

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JChewning wrote:Awesome! I like your INFERNOCUS, I just decided to finish what Hasbro didnt by making my own, so here is my INFERNOCUS.

Thanks! And that is a great team you have there too!

I gave his limbs to Elita for now, but I'm hoping that Red Swoop and Ricochet do come true. If they are, Infernocus will rise again with some new limbs! Though I could give him Lost Lightatron's limbs, but I really like how that combiner turned out.

Also super happy someone else decided to use Infernocus

Regarding potential extra figures, I'm hoping we get a Deluxe Sideswipe (from CW Breakdown) and Windcharger. Because that would finally finish out the Masquerade 5.

For those not up on the G1 cartoon, "Masquerade" is the episode where the Autobots abducted the Stunticons then disguised Optimus, Mirage, Jazz, Sideswipe, and Windcharger as them to infiltrate the Decepticons and screw up Megatron's latest superweapon.

o.supreme wrote:Sideswipe definitely, as he is the only member of the 1984 standard size Autobots not to be released as a combiner component. Windcharger...not so much. He already received two standard Legends Class releases in the Prime Wars trilogy.

I mean, I'm as big a fan of the original animated series as you can get. I know Windcharger was chosen to be part of the faux Stunticons because his magnetic ability was a huge contributing factor to allow the Autobots to *merge* ... It's just unfortunate that his smaller size doesn't really lend itself well to the concept overall in toy form. It was just a poor writing choice at the time, but I get it.

I mean if anything, you could have another Autobot be the 5th member, and legends CW Windcharger can be the 6th member, as we have seen, he fits on the chest of CW Prime

No, you couldn't. It's Deluxe Windcharger as the 5th member or nothing, otherwise you spoil the reference. And that's the thing - it would be a Deluxe Windcharger rather than a Legends, and we certainly haven't had a Deluxe Windcharger yet

Windcharger wasn't chosen just for the use of his magnets, he was also chosen because his altmode has a similar silhouette to Wildrider's altmode (as far as G1 goes). That was the basis on which ALL the faux Stunticons were chosen:
* Optimus and Motormaster are both cab-over-engine trucks with trailers
* Sidewipe and Breakdown are both Lamborghini Countach LP500 cars.
* Jazz and Dead End are both Porsche coupes
* Mirage and Drag Strip are both Formula 1 cars
* windcharger and Wildrider are different makes and kinds of cars, but Windcharger's altmode silhouette is close enough to Wildrider's for it to work

Yeah, I've always felt that Windcharger was chosen in that episode because of his altmode being able to pass for Wildrider's when covered in the camouflage paint. While his magnetic powers did allow for the Autobots to combine into their fake Menasor form, the team never planned for it ahead of time since it was completely improvised. They were only going to try to sneak in and stop Megatron's plans once they got behind enemy lines, but the unexpected arrival of the real Stunticons forced the Autobots to try and fake a Menasor combination of their own. They were extremely lucky that they had one of their members (Windcharger) with a power that helped them to pull it off.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, I've always felt that Windcharger was chosen in that episode because of his altmode being able to pass for Wildrider's when covered in the camouflage paint. While his magnetic powers did allow for the Autobots to combine into their fake Menasor form, the team never planned for it ahead of time since it was completely improvised. They were only going to try to sneak in and stop Megatron's plans once they got behind enemy lines, but the unexpected arrival of the real Stunticons forced the Autobots to try and fake a Menasor combination of their own. They were extremely lucky that they had one of their members (Windcharger) with a power that helped them to pull it off.

See I feel the exact opposite. Of course nothing is ever stated or implied in the episode, but I find it difficult to believe the Autobots would take on such a dangerous mission without planning a Menasor mode ahead of time. Yes they wanted to be in and out as quickly as possible, but Optimus I think was more of a planner than an improviser, not that he couldn't, but always better to be prepared.

I must say, this turn in the debate is much more enjoyable to read than the endless discussion on the size of Siege toys.

Yes Cobotron, combiners do have relevance to PotP. Especially when we're talking about potentially getting new combiner limbs as part of PotP

o.supreme wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: No, you couldn't. It's Deluxe Windcharger as the 5th member or nothing, otherwise you spoil the reference. And that's the thing - it would be a Deluxe Windcharger rather than a Legends, and we certainly haven't had a Deluxe Windcharger yet

ok...So I've stayed out of the toys size comparison argument on the other threads, because frankly I don't feel that strongly about it one way or the other, but I do see you have a passion for critiquing the sizes of the toys, which is fine. But now you say you want a Deluxe Windcharger?? It's just puzzling is all, animated series reference withstanding.

In this case yes. It's totally the wrong size class for him under all other circumstances, but if the homage is to be done then I think it should be done all the way. It's a case where making him two size classes too big (as a Cybertron fan I will forever remember the Scout class) serves a specific, deliberate purpose.

JChewning wrote:Awesome! I like your INFERNOCUS, I just decided to finish what Hasbro didnt by making my own, so here is my INFERNOCUS.

Where did you get that Ratchet and Red Alert from?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:In this case yes. It's totally the wrong size class for him under all other circumstances, but if the homage is to be done then I think it should be done all the way. It's a case where making him two size classes too big (as a Cybertron fan I will forever remember the Scout class) serves a specific, deliberate purpose.

You could argue too that some of the other figures we've gotten in Combiners Wars and Power of the Primes were put into inappropriately larger or smaller size classes to fit the gimmick play pattern, like the Dinobot limbs being only Deluxe sized or Sky Lynx being only a Voyager Class figure, or Elita One being a big Voyager Class figure compared to her Deluxe Class teammates.

On another note, I consider the modern "Legends Class" to be the spiritual successor of the old "Scout Class." Yes, the Scout Class figures of old were a bit larger than Legends Class figures are today, but that's true of Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders too. It makes sense to me, at least.

Oh yeah, the Dinobot limbs are totally undersize at Deluxe. Although they at least still gain a bit in robot mode height compared to their original toys (which were already Deluxe in size). But it fit the gimmick and was also the more pragmatic way to release them at regular retail since making them all Voyagers in the same line would eat a lot of slots.

I don't think Voyager is too big for Elita since she's supposed to be on par with Optimus in the height department. She's also supposed to be some sort of car or truck rather than a jet but A. cost saving and B. lack of reference for her canon altmode. If only they could find an animation cel of her in altmode to see what Optimus' trailer obscured. Or better yet, find her original model sheet.

Sabrblade wrote:At last, somebody did this:

someone need to do a more proper custom of the Quickstrike exo-suit.