New POTP Packaging Images with Bio and Giza Reveal for Nemesis Prime and Art for Wreck-Gar

Um, weren't sites going to band together and NOT post leaks like this that are basically done to milk an image, like a Ken Burns documentary?

I'd rather have had G2 Groove than Wreck Gar.

william-james88 wrote:For Nemesis Prime, we get a look at his partner, Giza, which is a bird that transforms into his sword. This is another reference to yet another Nemesis Prime, in this case the one from the Prime line which had a transforming sword partner with the same name (although it was a shark, and not a bird).

Was TF: Prime - Nemesis Prime a exclusive? That is the only one I can find online, I cannot find any reference to a Hasbro release...

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:For Nemesis Prime, we get a look at his partner, Giza, which is a bird that transforms into his sword. This is another reference to yet another Nemesis Prime, in this case the one from the Prime line which had a transforming sword partner with the same name (although it was a shark, and not a bird).

Was TF: Prime - Nemesis Prime a exclusive? That is the only one I can find online, I cannot find any reference to a Hasbro release...

Yes he was. There were quite a few exclusive toys from TT in he Prime line. Its probably the most infamous line for TT exclusives. And each of their toys deluxe and up came with partner transformers model kits that were all exclusive to TT.

I was LITERALLY just about to tweet about how it's about time to get some information on Wreck-Gar.

I'd like to see Special Edition Prime Masters with both. Maybe get second versions of each Prime Master with "Exclusives" and Predaking. if we could get each of the Takara-versions of the Technobots as exclusives, each with Exclusive Prime Masters and POTP Hand/feet, that would go a long way for getting a better Hasbro Computron that also matches Abominus AND brings us closer to a special-edition set of Prim Masters

Bounti76 wrote:I'd rather have had G2 Groove than Wreck Gar.

I'd love to have a whole G2 set. Defensor got left out of the G2 sets, and is getting left out of Earth Wars too. He's SO underrated...

william-james88 wrote:Yes he was. There were quite a few exclusive toys from TT in he Prime line. Its probably the most infamous line for TT exclusives. And each of their toys deluxe and up came with partner transformers model kits that were all exclusive to TT.

Good to know, thanks. I love the Prime animated series, but never got any of the toys, well except the Legion Abominus set when it was at Target on clearance. THIS was unknowingly my precursor to see if my son could handle more complex toys, and in some ways I think Hasbro prepping me for the line I love to come. .

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'd love to have a whole G2 set. Defensor got left out of the G2 sets, and is getting left out of Earth Wars too. He's SO underrated...

You can add me to the list of those lamenting the lack of a G2 Defensor. Also, I don't play the mobile app game, but are no other characters being added? How do we know there will be no Defensor?

Well, this should put all the conspiracy theories to rest, finally, about Power of the Primes Nemesis Prime and Wreck-Gar either being hoaxes or Russian exclusives. I've got a feeling we may be getting quite a number of exclusive PotP figures before we roll into "War for Cybertron (part deux)."

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:For Nemesis Prime, we get a look at his partner, Giza, which is a bird that transforms into his sword. This is another reference to yet another Nemesis Prime, in this case the one from the Prime line which had a transforming sword partner with the same name (although it was a shark, and not a bird).

Was TF: Prime - Nemesis Prime a exclusive? That is the only one I can find online, I cannot find any reference to a Hasbro release...

Yes he was. There were quite a few exclusive toys from TT in he Prime line. Its probably the most infamous line for TT exclusives. And each of their toys deluxe and up came with partner transformers model kits that were all exclusive to TT.

It might make it more clear for fans to label the Takara version of Prime by their toyline's tagline "Arms Micron," to differentiate it from the Hasbro releases of those molds.

Hotconvoy wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Do we know who's in the other figure slot(s) of Wave 3? I assume it's a repack (or two) from a previous wave.

It's going to be two of Jazz per-case

Thanks for that. I had a feeling it was Jazz, but I wasn't sure if he was supposed to be in Wave 4 and I was misremembering what I had read months ago. Here's hoping the Jazz in Wave 3 has been modified to be "MAGA-less."

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Um, weren't sites going to band together and NOT post leaks like this that are basically done to milk an image, like a Ken Burns documentary?

This is the first I've heard of about this, was it decided on the back of the titans returns leaks?

I love how they try to hide these images, which makes me question who actuallyleaks them

Look the guy with the purple marker is back. Let me leak the artwork but not the photos. Maybe he can leak the trump piss tape too but blot out his head in purple.

o.supreme wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'd love to have a whole G2 set. Defensor got left out of the G2 sets, and is getting left out of Earth Wars too. He's SO underrated...

You can add me to the list of those lamenting the lack of a G2 Defensor. Also, I don't play the mobile app game, but are no other characters being added? How do we know there will be no Defensor?

I'd love a proper G2 Defensor set too, but we may have to settle for getting it piecemeal as double homages, such as we have so far with PotP Inferno homaging G2 Hot Spot in torso mode and PotP Wreck-Gar homaging G2 Groove in limb mode. The ideal for me, though, would be to release a proper G2 Defensor set alongside a redux of the G2 Bruticus set, using the space shuttle mold instead of the jet for Blast Off and applying the correct G2 Decepticon faction symbols to the figures as well. Seriously, how did Hasbro get that right initially and THEN screw it up on the third G2 set? Unbelievable.

william-james88 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Damn....wave 3 already in one of the most remote countries on earth smh. Wave 2 is almost non existant in some of the largest cities in the US. I only found Rippersnapper. At this rate Easter Island will start getting figures before us too...

Further proof that the US is no longer all that important a country.

I sort of agree. No free health insurance, no wave 3 potp....wtf is wrong with my country?

william-james88 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Damn....wave 3 already in one of the most remote countries on earth smh. Wave 2 is almost non existant in some of the largest cities in the US. I only found Rippersnapper. At this rate Easter Island will start getting figures before us too...

Further proof that the US is no longer all that important a country.

I sort of agree. No free health insurance, no wave 3 potp....wtf is wrong with my country?

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Um, weren't sites going to band together and NOT post leaks like this that are basically done to milk an image, like a Ken Burns documentary?

This is the first I've heard of about this, was it decided on the back of the titans returns leaks?

I love how they try to hide these images, which makes me question who actuallyleaks them

There is no such thing, each site is run independently. Essenially we want to share everything relevant with the community. If Hasbro tells us to ake it down, then we will. But essentially, anthing posted online for all to see is fair game.

The bird is called Giza? After a sawshark Arms Micron? Me thinks they got a bit confused with the pets there, as the only bird associated with a Prime would be RiD 2015 Aerobolt:

Looks just like the leaked images that supposedly pointed to Blastoff getting a release using Takara's shuttle mold, a leak that has yet to be backed up in any way.

You'll pardon me if I don't get excited about this.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Looks just like the leaked images that supposedly pointed to Blastoff getting a release using Takara's shuttle mold, a leak that has yet to be backed up in any way.

You'll pardon me if I don't get excited about this.

There's a listing with bio on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Spe?tag=seibertron07-20& ... rtron07-20)

I need a Wreckgar but those who didn't can chuckle at the following image.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'd love to have a whole G2 set. Defensor got left out of the G2 sets, and is getting left out of Earth Wars too. He's SO underrated...

You can add me to the list of those lamenting the lack of a G2 Defensor. Also, I don't play the mobile app game, but are no other characters being added? How do we know there will be no Defensor?

I'd love a proper G2 Defensor set too, but we may have to settle for getting it piecemeal as double homages, such as we have so far with PotP Inferno homaging G2 Hot Spot in torso mode and PotP Wreck-Gar homaging G2 Groove in limb mode. The ideal for me, though, would be to release a proper G2 Defensor set alongside a redux of the G2 Bruticus set, using the space shuttle mold instead of the jet for Blast Off and applying the correct G2 Decepticon faction symbols to the figures as well. Seriously, how did Hasbro get that right initially and THEN screw it up on the third G2 set? Unbelievable.

I asked the design team about Bruticus's faction symbol at the last Botcon, and their response was, "Wait, he doesn't have G2 symbols?"

Lore Keeper wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I'd love to have a whole G2 set. Defensor got left out of the G2 sets, and is getting left out of Earth Wars too. He's SO underrated...

You can add me to the list of those lamenting the lack of a G2 Defensor. Also, I don't play the mobile app game, but are no other characters being added? How do we know there will be no Defensor?

I'd love a proper G2 Defensor set too, but we may have to settle for getting it piecemeal as double homages, such as we have so far with PotP Inferno homaging G2 Hot Spot in torso mode and PotP Wreck-Gar homaging G2 Groove in limb mode. The ideal for me, though, would be to release a proper G2 Defensor set alongside a redux of the G2 Bruticus set, using the space shuttle mold instead of the jet for Blast Off and applying the correct G2 Decepticon faction symbols to the figures as well. Seriously, how did Hasbro get that right initially and THEN screw it up on the third G2 set? Unbelievable.

I asked the design team about Bruticus's faction symbol at the last Botcon, and their response was, "Wait, he doesn't have G2 symbols?"

Ha ha ha ha . I realy hope the you're joking, but i know that you're not and that scares me

Ha ha ha ha . I realy hope the you're joking, but i know that you're not and that scares me

They seemed genuinely surprised. I imagine that the figure was supposed to have G2 insignias, but that got lost somewhere in translation. Could be something similar to the Jazz MAGA situation.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Ha ha ha ha . I realy hope the you're joking, but i know that you're not and that scares me

They seemed genuinely surprised. I imagine that the figure was supposed to have G2 insignias, but that got lost somewhere in translation. Could be something similar to the Jazz MAGA situation.

More like Titanium Series Cheetor, in which Hasbro asked for "a Cheetor" and they went with the Beast Machines one, the "wrong one" as it turned out.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Ha ha ha ha . I realy hope the you're joking, but i know that you're not and that scares me

They seemed genuinely surprised. I imagine that the figure was supposed to have G2 insignias, but that got lost somewhere in translation. Could be something similar to the Jazz MAGA situation.

Sounds like when the old design team was asked at SDCC 2013 about the possibility of getting a Metrotitan redeco from Titan class Metroplex, and their response was "Who?"

wave 4?

Centaurus Prime wrote:wave 4?

As far as we know Novastar(aka Firestar), repacks of Slug(aka Slag), Rippersnapper, and Blackwing(aka Darkwing). But the repacks may have just been place holder listings

I wonder if Jazz's repack in Wave 3 will differ at all in packaging from Wave 1. He's shown as part of Elita Inf1nite on the side of his blister pack in Wave 1, but maybe in his second run, they'll change the art to reflect Firestormer (a.k.a., the Inferno torso) instead, which would be a more concurrent release to Jazz's scheduled appearance in Wave 3?

Don't get me wrong here i frickin love Wreck gar but this one is'nt looking to be anything to write home about i mean i'll still get him sure but they could've done ALOT more to retool him.

Nemesis on the other hand i've been waiting forever for them to do a proper alternative to MP 10B and he looks drop dead georgeous. But i'm curious to see what kind of shoddyfiction they'll cobble together to explain away an Evil Orion Pax. On that note can i just point out how ruddy beutiful this mold is? Well it's hardly surprising since it looks a tonne like MP 10 just with slightly less articulation , Build Quality and paint plus the alt mode is more than a little off but still if MP 10 is considered the best G1 Prime ever can't this mold be considered the best what will be called CHUG in a year Prime there is? if not just the best Orion Pax? i mean c'mon let's be honest here he has'nt ever really had a toy that really nailed it did he.

Prime Target wrote:Don't get me wrong here i frickin love Wreck gar but this one is'nt looking to be anything to write home about i mean i'll still get him sure but they could've done ALOT more to retool him.

Nemesis on the other hand i've been waiting forever for them to do a proper alternative to MP 10B and he looks drop dead georgeous. But i'm curious to see what kind of shoddyfiction they'll cobble together to explain away an Evil Orion Pax. On that note can i just point out how ruddy beutiful this mold is? Well it's hardly surprising since it looks a tonne like MP 10 just with slightly less articulation , Build Quality and paint plus the alt mode is more than a little off but still if MP 10 is considered the best G1 Prime ever can't this mold be considered the best what will be called CHUG in a year Prime there is? if not just the best Orion Pax? i mean c'mon let's be honest here he has'nt ever really had a toy that really nailed it did he.

Well, Leader Evolution Optimus Prime may have the best robot modes but his cab part suffers horribly for it and his Orion Pax made has massive kibble, so he's sacrificed a lot to achieve that Leader Class Robot Mode, unfortunately.

Prime Target wrote:Don't get me wrong here i frickin love Wreck gar but this one is'nt looking to be anything to write home about i mean i'll still get him sure but they could've done ALOT more to retool him.

PotP Wreck-Gar won't replace Transformers Unite Wreck-Gar in my collection, but it will serve an important purpose as another limb bot for my growing collection of combiners. He'll probably join Jazz, Alpha Bravo, and Rook as limbs for Inferno's torso mode to form "Firestormer."

Prime Target wrote:Don't get me wrong here i frickin love Wreck gar but this one is'nt looking to be anything to write home about i mean i'll still get him sure but they could've done ALOT more to retool him.

Nemesis on the other hand i've been waiting forever for them to do a proper alternative to MP 10B and he looks drop dead georgeous. But i'm curious to see what kind of shoddyfiction they'll cobble together to explain away an Evil Orion Pax. On that note can i just point out how ruddy beutiful this mold is? Well it's hardly surprising since it looks a tonne like MP 10 just with slightly less articulation , Build Quality and paint plus the alt mode is more than a little off but still if MP 10 is considered the best G1 Prime ever can't this mold be considered the best what will be called CHUG in a year Prime there is? if not just the best Orion Pax? i mean c'mon let's be honest here he has'nt ever really had a toy that really nailed it did he.

Honestly, I keep coming back to CW Prime for my default Optimus. If I had t sold him, it would be a tossup between CW and Classics, but I actually ended up loving the CW Proportions.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The bird is called Giza? After a sawshark Arms Micron? Me thinks they got a bit confused with the pets there, as the only bird associated with a Prime would be RiD 2015 Aerobolt:

Perhaps they're saving Aerobolt for a premium Optimus Prime repaint down the road?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Ha ha ha ha . I realy hope the you're joking, but i know that you're not and that scares me

They seemed genuinely surprised. I imagine that the figure was supposed to have G2 insignias, but that got lost somewhere in translation. Could be something similar to the Jazz MAGA situation.

More like Titanium Series Cheetor, in which Hasbro asked for "a Cheetor" and they went with the Beast Machines one, the "wrong one" as it turned out.

I never get tired of hearing this story, or the Metrotitan story for that matter.

Hotconvoy wrote:

Centaurus Prime wrote:wave 4?

As far as we know Novastar(aka Firestar), repacks of Slug(aka Slag), Rippersnapper, and Blackwing(aka Darkwing). But the repacks may have just been place holder listings

Hasbro's final wave strategy is to have only one new figure in most scales so Novastar will be the only new figure in deluxe wave 4.

Emerje

Would this Nemesis Prime possibly be a San Diego exclusive?

I just check all my local Wal-Mart's and Targets. They all just restocked wave 1. That's weird for me considering I found Rippersnapper last week at Target. I'm glad I preordered Hun-gurr from BBTS, which has now sold out for the third time, I believe.

PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

YoungPrime wrote:PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

Then we'd be complaining about hollow limbs and blockiness, as that's pretty much inevitable with gimmicky Leaders and up. And it's all weight-related, trust me. If you size up the dimensions by a factor of 2, the total weight will quadruple (2 squared), so plastic has to be eliminated in places to make it lighter.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

Then we'd be complaining about hollow limbs and blockiness, as that's pretty much inevitable with gimmicky Leaders and up. And it's all weight-related, trust me. If you size up the dimensions by a factor of 2, the total weight will quadruple (2 squared), so plastic has to be eliminated in places to make it lighter.

Actually, I believe in a perfect scenario weight is Cubic, since ypu have not only surface area but depth too. Courze we are talking about oddly shaped robits, ao its not a perfect ration

Flashwave wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

Then we'd be complaining about hollow limbs and blockiness, as that's pretty much inevitable with gimmicky Leaders and up. And it's all weight-related, trust me. If you size up the dimensions by a factor of 2, the total weight will quadruple (2 squared), so plastic has to be eliminated in places to make it lighter.

Actually, I believe in a perfect scenario weight is Cubic, since ypu have not only surface area but depth too. Courze we are talking about oddly shaped robits, ao its not a perfect ration

I thought volume was cubic... Anyway, people get the idea... right?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

Then we'd be complaining about hollow limbs and blockiness, as that's pretty much inevitable with gimmicky Leaders and up. And it's all weight-related, trust me. If you size up the dimensions by a factor of 2, the total weight will quadruple (2 squared), so plastic has to be eliminated in places to make it lighter.

Actually, I believe in a perfect scenario weight is Cubic, since ypu have not only surface area but depth too. Courze we are talking about oddly shaped robits, ao its not a perfect ration

I thought volume was cubic... Anyway, people get the idea... right?

Volume is, but weigbt is more related to the volume than surface area.

Homestly, I'm not sure we all do. And I font mean that in amy derogatory way, I just mean that unless you deal in a career of weights and such, its not something that we give much thought to. We think "Well just make it bigger" but dont neccesarily comprehend how that impacts toy production.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:PotP Terrorcons >>>>>>>>> PotP Dinobots.


*Dinobots should've all been Voyager and Leader class with no lame gimmicks.


THE END.

Then we'd be complaining about hollow limbs and blockiness, as that's pretty much inevitable with gimmicky Leaders and up. And it's all weight-related, trust me. If you size up the dimensions by a factor of 2, the total weight will quadruple (2 squared), so plastic has to be eliminated in places to make it lighter.

Yeah, that's why I said no gimmicks.

Does Blot's mouth open in beast mode?

Has anyone figured out what all of Elita 1's stickers say? There is also a paint app on her legs (painted in salmon) that has some writing on it but its so small to make out.

william-james88 wrote:Has anyone figured out what all of Elita 1's stickers say? There is also a paint app on her legs (painted in salmon) that has some writing on it but its so small to make out.

Oh no, not again

I definitely must have the rest of the Terrorcons & Novastar! But no repacks of Moonracer? I was happy to finally see her at Target, but still nowhere else. We still have plenty of wave1.

I wish you'd stop putting tm2 dinobot in pictures bodrock, it's making me want him again I feel he was often misjudged but I loved the frankenstein monster look, and like the monster had a good heart after all, reminding us that megatron/humanity is the greatest monster.

Anyway, I'm quite happy with how the dinobots turned out in potp, making them voyagers and leaders would have made it more expensive for some to collect all of them (and make many have to online only when they may prefer to hunt in real life...unless like me they live in the UK where it'll be a pain anyway due to the way they work distribution here) now in the future they could spread the dinobots over the three year toy line so we'd get two voyagers a piece for the first two years and then a leader for the last one.

For me though, I'm more than happy with these, I don't care for scale.

I can't help it ZeroWolf! I only recently acquired Dinobot II (~$30, MOSC -- but obviously opened him up!), and I love the Frankensteiner look to him, too.

But as for the original Dinobots in PotP, I've only picked up Swoop -- the others look good, too, but I have other incarnations of them I am enjoying. They're a great option for many reason, though!

I haven't looked very closely at the markings on Elita-1 -- she's still spending most of her time combined with the Torchbearers.

bodrock wrote:I can't help it ZeroWolf! I only recently acquired him (~$30, MOSC -- but obviously opened him up!), and I love the Frankensteiner look to him, too.

I like him too, enough to have included him in the top 5 dino molds.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/37461/
But mine has a problem of his hips being really loose, does your have that problem too?

william-james88 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I can't help it ZeroWolf! I only recently acquired him (~$30, MOSC -- but obviously opened him up!), and I love the Frankensteiner look to him, too.

I like him too, enough to have included him in the top 5 dino molds.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/37461/
But mine has a problem of his hips being really loose, does your have that problem too?

Perhaps it's because he's still new, but no hip looseness yet, Will. It's only happened once before, but when I imported Mach Kick, his torso connection was already loose out of the box....

I really liked your list, too -- do you think the PotP Dinobots and their ability to combine will stand the test of time?

william-james88 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I can't help it ZeroWolf! I only recently acquired him (~$30, MOSC -- but obviously opened him up!), and I love the Frankensteiner look to him, too.

I like him too, enough to have included him in the top 5 dino molds.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/37461/
But mine has a problem of his hips being really loose, does your have that problem too?

Mine does. His arms are a little loose at the shoulder and elbow too, but not to the same extent as the hips. I guess those hip ball joints of his just don't age well.

But then again, I was one of those kids who liked to detach some of his BW figures' limbs at the ball joints and try to mix and match similar-sized ball joints to create new monstrous-looking abominations by attaching the limbs of other figures to one figure's torso, even if that rendered any of these monstrosities no longer able to transform (I played with them like they were monsters instead of Transformers in those instances). Of course, I'd eventually put all the correct limbs back on their correct torsos, but I'm sure all that detaching and re-attaching I did back then didn't help the ball joints of my figures to hold up better over time.

william-james88 wrote:Has anyone figured out what all of Elita 1's stickers say? There is also a paint app on her legs (painted in salmon) that has some writing on it but its so small to make out.

Looks like Elita-1 Cybertronian Resistance.

Arms say Power. Back says Warning, and Mech Access. Cockpit says Elita & Optimus. Wings say No Step and Ariel Evolved.

Will@ mine doesn't have any looseness on his hips, his right arm is looser than his left though, and being second hand his paint work is scratched...but I think it works in his favour regarding his monstrous appearance.

Just a thought

bodrock wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I can't help it ZeroWolf! I only recently acquired him (~$30, MOSC -- but obviously opened him up!), and I love the Frankensteiner look to him, too.

I like him too, enough to have included him in the top 5 dino molds.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/37461/
But mine has a problem of his hips being really loose, does your have that problem too?

Perhaps it's because he's still new, but no hip looseness yet, Will. It's only happened once before, but when I imported Mach Kick, his torso connection was already loose out of the box....

I really liked your list, too -- do you think the PotP Dinobots and their ability to combine will stand the test of time?

Yeah, thats a question I am asking myself right now. I dont know if what has been released since me doing the list is better. Like, are any POTP dinobots better than TM2 Dinobot?

Hotconvoy wrote:Just a thought

I counter your thought with a different thought