Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Roadbuster, Whirl, and Tankor

Sabrblade wrote:Aw man, those are so much nicer!

Forget that, how can TakaraTomy get away with Whirl and Roadbuster? I demand details!

At a first glance, only whirl looks different. Im good with the hasbro versions, screw these versions. Wheres the god damn show accurate skids everybody wants ?

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

And I just got a Roadbuster.

Seems like the Tomy version won't come with the decals(?)Instant get! I'll get the Tomy RB in 'bot mode and keep the hasbro in vehicle mode. Whirl will sure 'cause the high priced ebay Whirl's to drop like rocks.

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

Mindmaster wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.



Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.

After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).

If it actually had Tulcas' deco, then yeah, it'd be more convincing. As is, it just looks more simply like Takara's playing catch up on the current Hasbro molds that they haven't gotten to yet, and it just so happens that Tankor, Whirl, and Roadbuster are among the immediate recent ones. After all, Rattrap's in this too, and he's Tankor's wave mate over here. I'd imagine that Sky-Byte shouldn't be too far along with this line as well. Maybe even Skids, since his mold strangely got overlooked by the Japanese Generations line altogether.

Sabrblade wrote:If it actually had Tulcas' deco, then yeah, it'd be more convincing. As is, it just looks more simply like Takara's playing catch up on the current Hasbro molds that they haven't gotten to yet, and it just so happens that Tankor, Whirl, and Roadbuster are among the immediate recent ones. After all, Rattrap's in this too, and he's Tankor's wave mate over here. I'd imagine that Sky-Byte shouldn't be too far along with this line as well. Maybe even Skids, since his mold strangely got overlooked by the Japanese Generations line altogether.

These three come out in a wave after Primal and Rattrap, it's intentional, If takara was just playing catch up, why would two beast wars characters be grouped together? if it were just catch up, where are these divided into set waves instead of mishmash of characters?. Also, let's be fair here Sabrblade, whenever you see something new that has a passing relation to some obscure triviality, you're quick to bring it up, even if others say you're reaching. Is it so bad that some of us do the same?

Happy accident or not, i'll be displaying these three together. Tankor looks way better, unsurprising of course. Now we just need an enterprising customiser to make Tankor into Tulcus.