MINDVVIPE wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Um...actually...it kind of does.
"Good financial success" isn't mutually exclusive with "good content quality".
People also tend to not spend a ton of money on something really crappy. I didn't like Titanic. However, based on the box office success, I would have to grudgingly say that it was a decent movie to be so popular.
How does one define good or great in this sense? We could look at critics, but it is actually rare for a critical success to do very well at the box office or a box office smash do very well with critics. (Though this does seem to be a reversing trend of late.)
If we look at popularity, I.E. something people actually like, then I think it could be argued that $2.6 billion indicates something good.
(Disclaimer: I actually really liked Pacific Rim, so take all of this with a grain of salt.
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I think to put it all a lot more acurately is that only YOU can decide what is good or not. If you think the TF movies are amazing, thats simply what you think, with the opposite also being true. But something is not defined as good simply because others deem it so. Decide for yourself, and stop hating on those who oppose your views about something like a movie.
That was actually my point all along. I'm not hating on anyone's views. They should have their own opinions (and others should express theirs as well) and maybe the differing perspectives can add to the debate or even convince others to change their mind. It happens rarely, but has even happened to me.
I just argued the reasoning and logic of such a statement, especially when considering how vitriolic the discussions seem to get in reference to the Bay movies. (I actually find it entertaining, in a way, to see people get so passionate about this hobby. It's why I come here so much.
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If we go by the premises that something popular gets a lot of money, and that people will not go see something bad (hence why it is popular), then the prevailing opinion of the populace is that something that generates a lot of money is, overall, good.
A better statement would be, "Just because something generates $2.6 billion doesn't mean I have to like it."
And I think this is on topic. Does this movie look good for people personally? That's up to the individual. Will this movie make a lot of money? Based on what is in the trailers and how well the other movies have done, unless there is a public fatigue setting in about the Transformers, then this movie will probably generate in the 8 figure range.
Personally, I will look forward to this movie more than any of the Oscar Best Picture nominees from this year, even if it's not what I would expect for my G1 inner child.
(P.S. Megatronus knows me well from other interactions. I would hope he recognizes that I'm not deliberately hating on his opinion or trolling him.
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