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I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I mean, truly

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I guess when I say main line, I'm thinking of the Generations related line. It would be nice to see them put out Slipstream (aside from the Takara release a couple years ago)

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I guess when I say main line, I'm thinking of the Generations related line. It would be nice to see them put out Slipstream (aside from the Takara release a couple years ago)

There was a time when the media lines were the main lines and the CHUG lines were done on the side.

Those were the days...

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I guess when I say main line, I'm thinking of the Generations related line. It would be nice to see them put out Slipstream (aside from the Takara release a couple years ago)

There was a time when the media lines were the main lines and the CHUG lines were done on the side.

Those were the days...

It's kinda funny how what had been a small line of G1 homage figures to fill the gap between the end of Cybertron and the start of the first movie blew up into such a massive toyline in its own right. (And all those characters in the first wave of Classics have since been remade, even.) Even with the massive positive reaction to that line, I don't think anyone could have anticipated we'd be here eleven years later considering it the "main" line due to its consistent presence through the last decade while other lines have come and gone.

JazZeke wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I guess when I say main line, I'm thinking of the Generations related line. It would be nice to see them put out Slipstream (aside from the Takara release a couple years ago)

There was a time when the media lines were the main lines and the CHUG lines were done on the side.

Those were the days...

It's kinda funny how what had been a small line of G1 homage figures to fill the gap between the end of Cybertron and the start of the first movie blew up into such a massive toyline in its own right. (And all those characters in the first wave of Classics have since been remade, even.) Even with the massive positive reaction to that line, I don't think anyone could have anticipated we'd be here eleven years later considering it the "main" line due to its consistent presence through the last decade while other lines have come and gone.

However Hasbro proper does not see the generations line as being the main line. Brian Goldner reiterated the fact that the core lines are the ones that are targeted towards their core audience which is kids from 5-8 years old.

william-james88 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'm always glad to see more female chanracters, but It would be nice to get more female Decepticons in the main line though.

Cyberverse is the main TV show line, at least.

I guess when I say main line, I'm thinking of the Generations related line. It would be nice to see them put out Slipstream (aside from the Takara release a couple years ago)

There was a time when the media lines were the main lines and the CHUG lines were done on the side.

Those were the days...

It's kinda funny how what had been a small line of G1 homage figures to fill the gap between the end of Cybertron and the start of the first movie blew up into such a massive toyline in its own right. (And all those characters in the first wave of Classics have since been remade, even.) Even with the massive positive reaction to that line, I don't think anyone could have anticipated we'd be here eleven years later considering it the "main" line due to its consistent presence through the last decade while other lines have come and gone.

However Hasbro proper does not see the generations line as being the main line. Brian Goldner reiterated the fact that the core lines are the ones that are targeted towards their core audience which is kids from 5-8 years old.

Eh.. what the CEO says is not necessarily what the various brands think. I mean, for varying degrees of main, both statements are true. From a purely commercial revenue standpoint, sure.

But I'd be wary of dismissing the 'rest' of the active audience, despite us being in the minority (if so).

I feel like she turn into some kind of animal

Steelbane621 wrote:I feel like she turn into some kind of animal

That is definately a door on her arm though.

I for one am excited that here we are what, 15 years later and a botcon repaint of an RID figure is a main-ish villian. RID01 was my umping on point and the Universe Roulette and Shadow Strikers were pretty figures.

Va'al wrote:
Eh.. what the CEO says is not necessarily what the various brands think. I mean, for varying degrees of main, both statements are true. From a purely commercial revenue standpoint, sure.

But I'd be wary of dismissing the 'rest' of the active audience, despite us being in the minority (if so).

Yes, both statements can be true. And we are a minority, but an important one where there is growth potential (unlike the core market).

Here is the quote relating specifically to TFs (which Braind Goldner sees as his golden goose right now):

We have a preschool RESCUE BOTS show, we have our Cyberverse focused on our core kid six-to-nine year-old. We continue to run more adult oriented content on Machinima for that fan. Fan business is growing in a very significant manner. And then of course we have our movies. It was a movie year but our products were about the movie but also about all these other dimensions of TRANSFORMERS.

The way I see it, Cyberverse seems to be where the anticipated major portion of revenue for the TF brand will come from in 2018 with any collector line being where there will be the greatest increase in revenue.

That aside, I do still cringe at the CEO of such an important firm calling something "adult oriented content".

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:
Eh.. what the CEO says is not necessarily what the various brands think. I mean, for varying degrees of main, both statements are true. From a purely commercial revenue standpoint, sure.

But I'd be wary of dismissing the 'rest' of the active audience, despite us being in the minority (if so).

Yes, both statements can be true. And we are a minority, but an important one where there is growth potential (unlike the core market).

Here is the quote relating specifically to TFs (which Braind Goldner sees as his golden goose right now):

We have a preschool RESCUE BOTS show, we have our Cyberverse focused on our core kid six-to-nine year-old. We continue to run more adult oriented content on Machinima for that fan. Fan business is growing in a very significant manner. And then of course we have our movies. It was a movie year but our products were about the movie but also about all these other dimensions of TRANSFORMERS.

The way I see it, Cyberverse seems to be where the anticipated major portion of revenue for the TF brand will come from in 2018 with any collector line being where there will be the greatest increase in revenue.

That aside, I do still cringe at the CEO of such an important firm calling something "adult oriented content".

I have a hunch that another factor making Cyberverse more profitable is because its figures look a lot more cheaply made. Engineering and articulation up the cost of producing a figure, and if these are simpler figures, they should make Hasbro more money than their more elaborate CHUG counterparts.

Also directly from the source - that is, Hasbro - we have some official imagery for the barrage of class sizes that will feature in the newcoming toyline for Transformers: Cyberverse, including the Action Attackers gimmick for the figures in the line. But, proceeding with order, we have:

• Scout class Megatron, Bumblebee, Starscream and Grimlock
• Ultimate Class Optimus Prime and Megatron
• Ultra Class Starscream, Grimlock, and Bumblebee
• Warrior Class Starscream, Shockwave, Optimus Prime, and Bumblebee

Some of these images we had seen in previous news reporting, such as here, but some of these are most definitely a new look. You can compare the images below and in their full gallery to our coverage of the figures on display at New York Toy Fair 2018 here!

SCOUT CLASS






















ULTIMATE CLASS






















ULTRA CLASS




















WARRIOR CLASS

Wow. WHat a giant pile of crap. I will skip this entire line. Just horrid.

Deluxe and voyager Starscream look just sad. However, I will hold my jugement for Scout Starscream for after the vehicle mode is truly revealed. Scout Screamers in bot mode is adorable and the GERWALK ACTION is hilarious.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Deluxe and voyager Starscream look just sad. However, I will hold my jugement for Scout Starscream for after the vehicle mode is truly revealed. Scout Screamers in bot mode is adorable and the GERWALK ACTION is hilarious.

He has no vehicle mode, he is just a gimmick toy. It explains why a legends sized toy is only 8$ instead of 10$

I'll be looking closely at the larger Grimlock and the Shockwave to see if they might be worth picking up. Grimlock looks kind of cute and fun. Shockwave looks alright, and I like the newer idea for HIS alt mode.

That first picture of Bee had me thinking it was his G1 Cybertronian alt mode because it looked all round. Then I realized it was just a stupid motion picture. Pile of plastic crap.

Rated X wrote: Pile of plastic crap.

Aw come on Stop being so judgmental over... these...
Silly..
Toys..............

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Siiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................

I give up.

It's the first time ever since I started collecting that I can see an entire line as "plastic crap". Seriously. Little kids may have a blast with these, but those are definitely NOT for us. Jeez, even RiD/Movie Line 3 steps and 1 step changers have more value than these.

I'll probably just get the Shockwave figures to use as Decepticon Sentry Turrets for my stop motions.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Starscream... Please tell me it's the scout version.

DELUXE

Oh God.............

Pass.

That's actually the Ultra (Voyager) figure. The Warrior (Deluxe) looks like this:



I like it. It looks OK, could use some paint (nothing we aren't used to with RID), the transformation is a little different from what we're used to with Starscream (that's a good thing), and the action feature is unobtrusive being hidden in his wings.



Hasbro is really sticking it to Harmony Gold with this one. Let's see how this plays out.

Emerje

Still look like a ugly ducking after being roadkilled.

Unless there's a clearance sale, I may never buy any of these.

Shockwave's the only one that looks any good.

Call me odd, but I like some of these “pieces of crap.” I’m not too crazy about the Bumblebee toys, but the Ultimate Optimus and Megs are definites. I like the Shockwave too. And the Starscreams.

Hm. Well if science has taught us nothing else, if it spins, it's IMPORTANT....

Looks like they gave Shockwave the "Mr. Angry Eye" treatment.