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I wanted to list all the 3rdp MP offerings just to keep track and to help anyone wanting to start collecting them .

Was gonna do a written list but Pictures are always a lot more fun right


Decepticons

BadCube Insecticons - badcube-claymore-hypno-and-kickbutt-insecticons--t103034.php


DX9 Chigurh - dx9-toys-d05-chigurh-leader-mp-astrotrain--t102184s0.php


DX9 Tyrant - dx9-d07-tyrant-mp-galvatron--t105086.php


CLOUD 9 QuakeBlast - cloud-9-w-01-quakeblast-mp-shockwave--t104840.php


FansToys Insecticons - fanstoys-insecticons-t103162.php


FansToys Quakewave - fanstoys-ft-03-notshockwave-t91244.php


FansToys Spotter - fans-toys-ft-11-spotter-not-reflector--t102865s0.php


Igear Traitor - igear-pp03-destroyer-pp03-traitor-and-pp03-lightning-t80666.php


Igear Lightning - igear-pp03-destroyer-pp03-traitor-and-pp03-lightning-t80666.php


Igear Destroyer - igear-pp03-destroyer-pp03-traitor-and-pp03-lightning-t80666.php


Igear Storm - igear-s-pp03s-seeker-storm-t75904.php


Igear Elegy.


Igear Attack.


Igear Jet.


Igear Jet-G2.


Unique Toys Provider - unique-toys-y-01-provider-aka-octane--t103002s0.php


KFC Ditka - kfc-eavi-metal-phase-seven-a-ditka-blitzwing--t105155.php


KFC Reflectron - kfc-reflectron-mp-reflector--t103105.php


MakeToys Despotron - maketoys-mtrm-despotron-mp-megatron--t104865.php


MakeToys Night Bird & Terror Bird - maketoys-mtrm-night-bird-terror-bird-mp-darkwing-dreadwind--t104863.php


MakeToys Owling Meteo - maketoys-mtrm-owling-meteo-mp-starscream--t104864.php


Xtransbots Abbadon - xtransbots-abaddon-mp-galvatron--t105091.php


Xtransbots Apollyon - x-transbots-mx-i-apollyon-mp-megatron--t102176.php


Xtransbots Andras - x-transbots-mp-andras-g-1-scourge-with-targetmaster-rimfire--t102178s100.php


Xtransbots Eligos - xtransbots-eligos-mp-cyclonus--t103830s50.php


Autobots

Badcube Brawny - badcube-ots-02-brawny-03-backland-t101162.php


Badcube Backland - badcube-ots-02-brawny-03-backland-t101162.php


BadCube SunSurge - badcube-ots-08-sunsurge-t104701.php


Badcube Wardog - badcube-ots-04-wardog-warpath--t102735s0.php


BullsFire Air Strike - bullsfire-db-01-air-strike-t98293.php


Cubex Huff - cubex-ancestor-rebuilder-series-01-engineer-huff-t95439.php


Daca Toys Kronos - daca-toys-kronos-cartoon-jetfire--t97109s300.php


DX9 Carry - dx9-toys-d06-carry-mp-rodimus-prime--t103435s50.php


DX9 Invisible - dx9-d03i-invisible-mirage--t102034.php


FansToys Soar - fans-toys-ft-05-ft-05t-soar-not-swoop--t99665s0.php


FansToys Scoria - fans-toys-ft-04-scoria-not-slag--t97440s0.php


FansToys Sever - fans-toys-dibots-n0-3-ft-06-sever-snarl--t100290s0.php


FansToys Telsa - fans-toys-ft-09-tesla-not-perceptor--t102866.php


Giga Power Gutter - giga-power-master-robots-mp-dinorobots-t98776.php


Giga Power Grassor - giga-power-hq-02-grassor-slag--t100233s400.php


Giga Power Gaudenter -


KFC Citizen Stacks - kfc-heavy-metal-new-leader-mp-ultra-magnus--t96594s0.php


KFC DoubleDeck - kfc-doubledeck-mandy-and-stinger-twincast-repaint--t103450.php


KFC Transistor - kfc-transistor-mp-blaster--t101348s0.php


KFC Crash Hog - kfc-junk-king-wreckgar--t102313s100.php


KFC Sanford -


KFC Wastor Delta -


MakeToys Contact Shot - maketoys-mtrm-06-contact-shot-mp-pointblank--t104880s100.php


MakeToys Cupola - maketoys-re-master-series-rm-01-cupola-chromedome--t103046s0.php


MakeToys Gun-Dog - maketoys-re-master-series-rm-02-gun-dog-hound--t103041.php


MakeToys Hellfire - maketoys-re-master-series-rm-03-hellfire-inferno--t103044.php


Maketoys Ironwill - maketoys-mtrm-04-ironwill-hardhead--t104473.php


MakeToys Reticle - maketoys-mtrm-10-reticle-mp-crosshairs--t104881.php


MakeToys Wrestle - maketoys-re-master-series-rm-03-hellfire-inferno--t103044.php


MMC Sphinx - mmc-sphinx-mp-mirage--t102180s25.php


Omnigonix SpinOut - omnigonix-v-01-spinout-masterpiece-scale-third-party-sunstreaker-t100601s200.php


TFC Detective - tfc-old-soldiers-os-02-detective-hound--t103042.php


TFC IronHide - tfc-old-soldiers-os-01-ironhide--t102473s0.php


Transform N Rollout TR-01 Jazz - transform-n-rollout-tr-01-transforming-figure-masterpiece-jazz--t104361s100.php


Voodoo Toys Healing Potion Salus - voodoo-toys-mp-ironhide-ratchet--t104370.php


Xtransbots Arkose - https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... e=555B64F6


Xtransbots Boost & Hatch - x-transbots-boost-hatch-windcharger-tailgate--t101818s200.php


Xtransbots Dante - xtransbots-dante-mp-inferno--t105093.php



Xtransbots Staxx - x-transbots-master-mini-series-mm-i-krank-huffer-mm-ii-stax-pipes--t95509s0.php


Xtransbots Krank - x-transbots-master-mini-series-mm-i-krank-huffer-mm-ii-stax-pipes--t95509s0.php


Xtransbots Ollie - x-transbots-master-mini-series-mm-iv-ollie-g1-not-wheelie--t97665s100.php

Toyworld Devilstar Astrotrain is a MP Scale leader toy with a 8.9 inch robot mode.

Do we count the other Huff and Pipes, with the more real world accurate, but less show accurate alt mode? I can hunt for a pic, if needed...

If this is supposed to be complete it probably aught to include the other iGear Seekers and the various Wheelies.

Agamemnon wrote:Do we count the other Huff and Pipes, with the more real world accurate, but less show accurate alt mode? I can hunt for a pic, if needed...

See thats were i wasn't sure cos my first thoughts were to hit the more cartoon accurate to fit with official mp to me XT Pipes and huffer were more classics even though they scale correct , sort of the same reason i wasnt sure to put warbotron or UT combiners in.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If this is supposed to be complete it probably aught to include the other iGear Seekers and the various Wheelies.

No not complete at all it was just a rushed idea before i went to work . I think the only wheelie worthy of putting in xtransbots and yeahh i guess the seekers should be in .

[quote="Tsutsukakushi"]Toyworld Devilstar Astrotrain is a MP Scale leader toy with a 8.9 inch robot mode.


Not sure this one counts as MP ?

You're missing Stacks as well.

If you're picking and choosing which gets featured over what then this thread should really be "my favorite 3rd party MPs" as opposed to a comprehensive list of all of them.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:You're missing Stacks as well.

If you're picking and choosing which gets featured over what then this thread should really be "my favorite 3rd party MPs" as opposed to a comprehensive list of all of them.

Like a said this was a rush job with only the list in mind, though my thinking was what fits best with official mp, not what i want to see on the list, this isn't my personal list , Thats why i was asking what should be put in.

But some raise questions take the two wheelies the first XT attempt is that classed as a mp figure? Or the TW Astrotrain Tsu suggested it's said to be a voyager tw tend to do large figures does that make them mp?.

Clearly we all have a different take, thats what i thought would be interesting to see who makes the list

Autobot Genocide wrote:[Or the TW Astrotrain Tsu suggested it's said to be a voyager tw tend to do large figures does that make them mp?.

TW devilstar is not a Voyager toy. There were pics of Devilstar at the most recent TFCon last year that showed the toy to be leader scale next to TW Fort Max and other 3rd party toys.

Chimungmung.com and other sites are listing TW Devilstar Astrotrain with a 22.5 CM robot mode which Translates to 8.9 inches tall Leader scale robot mode.

22.5, 8.9 inches tall robot mode is in perfect MP TF scale. As It's bigger than the MP Seekers by One inch.

TW Devilstar Astrotrain has the articulation, high sculpt and leader scale toy to be considered a MP TF toy.

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:You're missing Stacks as well.

If you're picking and choosing which gets featured over what then this thread should really be "my favorite 3rd party MPs" as opposed to a comprehensive list of all of them.

Like a said this was a rush job with only the list in mind, though my thinking was what fits best with official mp, not what i want to see on the list, this isn't my personal list , Thats why i was asking what should be put in.

But some raise questions take the two wheelies the first XT attempt is that classed as a mp figure? Or the TW Astrotrain Tsu suggested it's said to be a voyager tw tend to do large figures does that make them mp?.

Clearly we all have a different take, thats what i thought would be interesting to see who makes the list

The Xtransbots guys were classified as MPs, not Classics. The Jizai KO of Wheelie, while not specifically stated as MP, isn't really Classics either, but is MP scaled. He's kind of a grey area, really.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:You're missing Stacks as well.

If you're picking and choosing which gets featured over what then this thread should really be "my favorite 3rd party MPs" as opposed to a comprehensive list of all of them.

Like a said this was a rush job with only the list in mind, though my thinking was what fits best with official mp, not what i want to see on the list, this isn't my personal list , Thats why i was asking what should be put in.

But some raise questions take the two wheelies the first XT attempt is that classed as a mp figure? Or the TW Astrotrain Tsu suggested it's said to be a voyager tw tend to do large figures does that make them mp?.

Clearly we all have a different take, thats what i thought would be interesting to see who makes the list

The Xtransbots guys were classified as MPs, not Classics. The Jizai KO of Wheelie, while not specifically stated as MP, isn't really Classics either, but is MP scaled. He's kind of a grey area, really.

Yeah xt wheelie v1 dont cut it but i added xt huffer and pipes.

Now just add in links to their respective pages.... Wow! Are you regretting starting this yet?

I am enjoying the concept so far. Thanks for collecting the images in one thread!

How about MMC Knight Morpher Cyclops? He has MP Articulation, MP High sculpy, around 9.5 to 10 inches tall in robot mode and seems to blend in perfectly with MP TF toys.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:How about MMC Knight Morpher Cyclops? He has MP Articulation, MP High sculpy, around 9.5 to 10 inches tall in robot mode and seems to blend in perfectly with MP TF toys.

Just because a figure is MP size doesn't mean that it is MP class. I have all the HoS figures, and Shockwave is awesome. However he's not a Masterpiece figure unless you have him with other HoS figs.

Nice! This is now a list of figures I will avoid! arg.. damn reflector.... I'll probably still get that =X

Agamemnon wrote:Now just add in links to their respective pages.... Wow! Are you regretting starting this yet?
I am enjoying the concept so far. Thanks for collecting the images in one thread!

No problem Ags .

One step at a time though i was thinking of linking reviews aswel haha

Glad i didnt start a classics list

mooncake623 wrote:Nice! This is now a list of figures I will avoid! arg.. damn reflector.... I'll probably still get that =X

Haha it's hard to resist that reflector , but hey as long as the thread helps

The fandom cant even agree on exactly what the hell exactly makes a figure "MP"....

Does it have to...

A. Be huge ?

B. Be G1 cartoon accurate in both modes ?

C. Be complex in transformation ?

D. Be a combination of A,B, and C ?

If the figure is lacking any one of of the 3, does that make it any less of an "MP" ?

Is MMCs Feral Rex MP scale ? The individual bots are huge and the same scale as official MP Autobot cars just like the G1 cartoon. But the combiner mode scales with other combiners deemed to be "classics" scale.

How about KFC cassettes ? Are they MP scale ? They fit inside KFCs Blaster which is deemed "MP" scale because it scales with the the official MP Soundwave. Takara really threw a curve ball when they enlarged Soundwave for the MP line but kept his cassettes the same size as the vintage G1 toy cassettes. And to make things even more weird, MP Ravage is the same size as classics Ravage in both modes. (the Ravage that came with classics Hound) So is the standard size cassette classics or MP scale ? Or both ?

And remember when Takara repainted Leader class movie Starscream and Ultimate Bumblebee and called them MP ? So if Bayformers can be "MP" too, then wouldnt that make the oversized KO DOTM Megatron an MP figure too ? (Not to mention every other official "Leader" class movie figurre)

Are the new oversized KO Fansproject Stunticons MP ? They sure scale well with official MP Autobot cars.

Takara G2 Sideswipe technically isnt "cartoon accurate" because there was no actual G2 cartoon featuring G2 characters. Dr. Wu made accessories to make him more comic accurate. So now can comic accuracy define an MP release too ? That would make Igears Raptor Squadron "MP" scale because they are huge, IDW comic accurate figures with a complex transformation.

What about Igears mini bots ? Depending on whether you prefer cartoon scale or vintage toy scale the Igear mini bots can pass off as either MP or classics scale.

Cubex/Bad Cubes Huffer, Brawn, and Outback all have cartoon accurate robot modes. But the designers skipped the ridiculous penny racer alt modes in favor of real world vehicles. Does that mean they are no longer MP ? Some would say yes, but didnt Takara do the same thing with Bumblebee ? And just for s**t and giggles, isnt MP Bumblebee the same size as classics Bumblebee ? Then what the hell scale does that make Toyworlds Bumblebee who is also the same size ?

How about X-transbots Road Ranger, is he MP scale ? He is a retool of their Huffer which is supposed to be MP scale. But he is a freakin Gobot. Can a Gobot even be considered MP scale ? If yes, that would make being "huge" the main variable in classifying an MP figure because he is not cartoon accurate and he doesnt boast a complex transformation.

I could probably go on and on with examples, but by now does everyone see my point ? The term MP is a true clusterf**k when you try to include 3rd party offerings. Hell, even some of the official MP releases dont really mesh well together in certain respects.

If we go by the dictionary definition of "masterpiece" then really there is no answer to this question because beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

While I do own a squadron of MP seekers for my coffee table, a couple of MP Soundwave molds for the cassettes, and MP Grimlock for fun, I just cant get into the huge for the sake of being huge concept. Everybody hates when I refer to it as the "Barbie doll scale" but it is what it is.

Rated X wrote:The fandom cant even agree on exactly what the hell exactly makes a figure "MP"....

Does it have to...

A. Be huge ?

B. Be G1 cartoon accurate in both modes ?

C. Be complex in transformation ?

D. Be a combination of A,B, and C ?

If the figure is lacking any one of of the 3, does that make it any less of an "MP" ?

Think you left out the most important option. For a TF MP toy, It needs to have more articulation than a regular TF toy.

Don't think option C, Needs to be on the list. As the Micheal bay Movie verse TF toys have proven. A more complex Transformation does not make a better toy.

What are the requirements to make a TF toy, A MP TF toy?

Disclaimer, This is just me guessing below, Not stating anything as definate facts. So Please be kind when disagreeing.

This MP TF toys Requirements list below, might, be the guide lines.

A, For it to be labeled a MP TF toy. It needs to have a more articulated robot mode than a regular release TF toy.

B, Not needed in other toy lines, Sure this will change. For now, The MP TF toy needs to be at least a scale bigger than a regular release TF toy.

C, The company making the toy, Needs to list it as a MP TF. If not, It'll always be called a unofficially fan listed MP TF toy.

D, Perfect version, It generally needs to be of higher quality and better-more in every way compared to a regular release TF toy.

Don't think a MP TF toy needs to be confined to one, Generation One TF Universe. As there are already TF toys that Takara labeled a MP TF toy that come from the Micheal Bay TF Movie Universe.

For TF, It doesn't need to look exactly like the original toy, As most MP TF toys are not. Currently HasTak and 3rd parties mix elements from the original toy, cartoon and-or create something different.

Don't think a MP TF toy requirement is that it needs to compete with the CHUG toy line. As CHUG is relatively new and has a fiction set in a different universe from the 1980's G-1 Fictional universe.

I think a Transformer Masterpiece toy is made by Takara
That is all

Its not that complex for me

In no particular order

1.MP10 set a new scale so it has to scale around him and obviously the rest of the gang so far.

2.Cartoon accurate robot mode and toy accurate alt modes.
When it comes to minibot alt modes badcube has the right idea imo.

3.fit the official mp aesthetic dont over do it on sculpting details.

Excellent example is FT Quakewave, FT Dinobots exellent jobs fitting in.

Bad example DX9 Astrtrain is over detailed not simplified enough to have a g1 robot mode

Thats basically it for me.

The list isnt ruled like this though as includes mp styled figures from different companys putting there own spin on things.

Basically, anything marketed as a 3rd MP can be considered a 3rd party MP for my purposes. That's why I didn't really fight Xtransbot's Wheelie; it wasn't specifically marketed as an MP, even if it's the right size and overall look. Ditto Glider and the KFC cassettes; many use it with their MPs, but it wasn't marketed as such.

I should have already added the kfc cassettes since they fit Transistor and Soundwave.

Autobot Genocide wrote:I should have already added the kfc cassettes since they fit Transistor and Soundwave.

Thats a grey area because both vintage G1 and CHUG cassettes are the same size. I own all the KFC cassette molds in one deco or another. The quality is crap on most of them and they do not deserve to have the word "masterpiece" associated with them.

Autobot Genocide wrote:I should have already added the kfc cassettes since they fit Transistor and Soundwave.

Think any update 3rd party cassette bot that can fit perfectly inside MP Soundwave or MP Transistor. Can be called a MP Cassette bot.

It's worth a mention, That Takara created a MP Cassette bot Ratbat that barely had any articulation in bat mode.