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Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:46 pm**

Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
SG Roadbuster wrote:any word on who Ramhorn's wavemates are?

He's the only new one. I think some of wave one are being put with him.

Are we sure? How do we know he is the only new one?

He was the only one shown at toyfair if I'm not mistaken and wasn't there a article about what was coming in his wave. Wouldn't be surprising if he's the only one similar to Broadside being the only voyager in his wave. Just makes me believe more and more we're drawing closer to the end of Titans Return. Movie stuff is coming in full force and we got power of the Primes coming.

I think he's the final Titan master in that line just like how I think slugsinger and Misfire are the final deluxes with Trypticon and the last 2 unrevealed box sets being the last of Titans Return.

Ok, thanks for the reply, now I know where you are coming from and I can reassure you since things werent quite clear and I can see how you can get the wrong idea. Habro doesnt reveal things logically. The only Wave 4 deluxe shown at toyfair before that wave came out was Perceptor and as we all now know, perceptor wasnt the only deluxe in that wave.
no kidding, we only learnt of what Krok and Quake looked like when they were released in stores since Hasbro had never revealed them.

So its the same thing happening with the titan master coming with Ramhorn. You will only see him once he hits stores. It should be Optimus prime, thats what the rumour are. Rumours also say we will get an Arcee titan master in the wave after that, so this is definitely not the last titan master.

Also, FYI, misfire is in the same wave as Windblade and Twin Twist, hasbro wasnt very clear about that either. You can see how its confusing?

So in the end, dont worry about how Hsabro reveals them, it doesnt actually mean anything. So far, the rumours have been more trustworthy.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm going to cry when Titan Returns ends. I haven't loved a Transformers line like this one ever.

I am sure Power of the primes will be up your alley too.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:28 pm**

I was hoping the Optimus Prime and Arcee Titanmasters would at least be showing up as solicitation images by now.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:46 pm**

Kurona wrote:I kinda doubt Slugslinger and Misfire will be the only Wave 6 guys. CW and Thrilling 30 both went out on a much bigger (admittedly not terribly amazing) bang.

No it didn't. Thrilling thirty ended with acree and Chromia. That was it and their sightings were few and came out late November-December. The last voyager was Brainstorm and he was the only voyager and came out in September. Thrilling 30 did not go out big at all.

Combiner Wars was the same. The last set was Skyreign and his limbs came out in February of 2016 with skylinx himself being the final voyager in a wave with Scattershot or Onslaught and getting very rare sightings or none at all forcing most to shop online for him or eBay. I myself had to pick him on amazon through a Chinese retailer in June right before Titans Retirns started.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:54 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
SG Roadbuster wrote:any word on who Ramhorn's wavemates are?

He's the only new one. I think some of wave one are being put with him.

Are we sure? How do we know he is the only new one?

He was the only one shown at toyfair if I'm not mistaken and wasn't there a article about what was coming in his wave. Wouldn't be surprising if he's the only one similar to Broadside being the only voyager in his wave. Just makes me believe more and more we're drawing closer to the end of Titans Return. Movie stuff is coming in full force and we got power of the Primes coming.

I think he's the final Titan master in that line just like how I think slugsinger and Misfire are the final deluxes with Trypticon and the last 2 unrevealed box sets being the last of Titans Return.

Ok, thanks for the reply, now I know where you are coming from and I can reassure you since things werent quite clear and I can see how you can get the wrong idea. Habro doesnt reveal things logically. The only Wave 4 deluxe shown at toyfair before that wave came out was Perceptor and as we all now know, perceptor wasnt the only deluxe in that wave.
no kidding, we only learnt of what Krok and Quake looked like when they were released in stores since Hasbro had never revealed them.

So its the same thing happening with the titan master coming with Ramhorn. You will only see him once he hits stores. It should be Optimus prime, thats what the rumour are. Rumours also say we will get an Arcee titan master in the wave after that, so this is definitely not the last titan master.

Also, FYI, misfire is in the same wave as Windblade and Twin Twist, hasbro wasnt very clear about that either. You can see how its confusing?

So in the end, dont worry about how Hsabro reveals them, it doesnt actually mean anything. So far, the rumours have been more trustworthy.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm going to cry when Titan Returns ends. I haven't loved a Transformers line like this one ever.

I am sure Power of the primes will be up your alley too.

I know misfire and Slugsinger are in windblades wave. I've been saying that from the get go but others believer they're a separate wave. Sorry if I only said just those two but I meant that wave.

Sorry but I'm not holding out for more. I'm more than happy to be wrong but there's the movie stuff and power of the primes and the lists of new toys from power of the primes that came out of a computer a few months ago.

I'm just saying don't be surprised if this is it. Rumors are of a beachcomber but who knows. There's not much left and not much time before the new theme happens.

It's great to hope but it's the same hope people had saying Sky Reign wasn't the last combiner because Abominus and Predaking haven't happened or people saying Buldigus isn't the last Takara combiner because they haven't done Liokaizer.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:11 pm**

RAR wrote:I was hoping the Optimus Prime and Arcee Titanmasters would at least be showing up as solicitation images by now.

Rumors are Arcee is getting tossed into Power of the Primes not unlike how Bizzsaw was put into the tail end of CW and is just a retool of Siren or Loudmouth...whatever his name was. Power of the Primes won't be a headmaster gimmick but will have little guys that interact with bigger guys still so it's very possible they'll can throw in some stuff from TR

As for the Optimus. Well I don't know. I mean it's possible but Brawn and Gnaw were in the list of rumors for years. First thrilling 30 then Combiner Wars. We usually get like 80-90% of what's listed in those rumors lists.

I'm not trying to be negative, I love Titans Return. It's an amazing line but I'm trying to be realistic since there is a movie coming out that usually over powers other lines and has canceled other toys(animated) and this is just part two of a themed line with the 3rd part coming eventually.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:16 pm**

Randomhero wrote:Combiner Wars was the same. The last set was Skyreign and his limbs came out in February of 2016 with skylinx himself being the final voyager in a wave with Scattershot or Onslaught and getting very rare sightings or none at all forcing most to shop online for him or eBay. I myself had to pick him on amazon through a Chinese retailer in June right before Titans Retirns started.

While Sky Lynx himself was rare, the limbs were plentiful and starting showing up in mass in most location more around April/May 2016. Then you had Victorion in May, G2 Bruticus in July, Computron in September, and LioKaiser in November. Sure they may not have been available in general retail in the US but they (except for Liokaiser which was an exclusive) but the rest were on store shelves in most other countries.

CW Started roughly in January 2015, and for most intents and purposes ended in November 2016, That's almost 2 years, but to be fair, we can back it up and make it 18 months, since there will always be some bleeding over between lines. TR started in early summer 2016, and I expect to fully end by the end of 2017, with POTP to start fresh in 2018.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:26 pm**

Randomhero wrote:I know misfire and Slugsinger are in windblades wave. I've been saying that from the get go but others believer they're a separate wave. Sorry if I only said just those two but I meant that wave.

Sorry but I'm not holding out for more. I'm more than happy to be wrong but there's the movie stuff and power of the primes and the lists of new toys from power of the primes that came out of a computer a few months ago.

I'm just saying don't be surprised if this is it. Rumors are of a beachcomber but who knows. There's not much left and not much time before the new theme happens.

It's great to hope but it's the same hope people had saying Sky Reign wasn't the last combiner because Abominus and Predaking haven't happened or people saying Buldigus isn't the last Takara combiner because they haven't done Liokaizer.

Just look at the facts and everything will work itself out instead of listening to people.

Baldigus is the last combiner of Unite Warriors because Takara literally ended that line with this character's story. Thats the only fact we have and thats all I will be using.

here's another fact, Slugsligher is not in the same wave as Misfire. We know their product numbers and Misfire is in the windblade wave while slugslinger is not (hasbro doesnt seem to like putting the same mold in the same wave). So this confirms that we are getting another wave of deluxes AFTER the windblade wave.

Hasbro also stated that the movie line will not disrupt the Titans Return line, so that also adds to the evidence that the next wave (wave 5) is not the last wave.

So there you go. Just looking at the facts, we are getting another wave after wave 5.

What you should worry about instead is if it will be easy to find. but thats a different story than wondering if it will exist

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:34 pm**

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm going to cry when Titan Returns ends. I haven't loved a Transformers line like this one ever.

In a way I agree, I've been really satisfied with the line, and while I'm eagerly anticipating Power of the Primes, I'll be sad to see Titans Return go. Alpha Trion and Hot Rod (wobbly head and all) are easily my favourites out of the whole line, and I was pleasantly surprised by how good Kup turned out.
Looking ahead, Optimus Primal winning the fan poll has got me really excited for Power of the Primes. Personally I'm also hoping the line includes Frenzy to finish off the 1984 cassette line-up, and a new Ratchet that's not part of a Japanese exclusive Combiner box set. As much as I like Takara Unite Warriors Ratchet, I'll admit I am peeved that it wasn't sold on its own.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:36 pm**

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:Shuffled and Ramhorn will be mine one way or another and Octone is looking pretty good here, I may have to consider him.

RodimusConvoy, how did you put Skullsmasher's tail on his arm like that? I assume it's just friction.

Sorta/kinda. You know how you can have Skullsmasher hold his tail? That handle has a small opening that's the exact size of the Titan Master peg, so I pegged it into the TM peg that's on his forearm. It's not quite centered, so it's a little off, but it fits and stays on and looks cooler than just having him hold the tail.

I've been trying to do this for about twenty minutes, and it isn't working. Could we have some close-up pics of this?

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:40 pm**

Munkky wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm going to cry when Titan Returns ends. I haven't loved a Transformers line like this one ever.

In a way I agree, I've been really satisfied with the line, and while I'm eagerly anticipating Power of the Primes, I'll be sad to see Titans Return go. Alpha Trion and Hot Rod (wobbly head and all) are easily my favourites out of the whole line, and I was pleasantly surprised by how good Kup turned out.
Looking ahead, Optimus Primal winning the fan poll has got me really excited for Power of the Primes. Personally I'm also hoping the line includes Frenzy to finish off the 1984 cassette line-up, and a new Ratchet that's not part of a Japanese exclusive Combiner box set. As much as I like Takara Unite Warriors Ratchet, I'll admit I am peeved that it wasn't sold on its own.

Unfortunately, Hasbro stated they're not doing the blue cassette. The only possible hope would be Takara.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:00 pm**

^ Love the neutral cassette response

. Also, although it was an exclusive CW Ratchet was released as the Build-a-figure for Botcon 2016. While its hard to get, I am still glad I got the UW Ratchet by itself. Even though they may be Convention and/or Club exclusives, usually characters released that way don't get a standard release too soon after...

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:19 pm**

o.supreme wrote:^ Love the neutral cassette response .

Considered it was the mature thing to do, considering we all know it's Frenzy

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:29 pm**

Kurona wrote:Unfortunately, Hasbro stated they're not doing the blue cassette. The only possible hope would be Takara.

Well that is kinda the suck. I only got Rumble to complete a set - boo

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm**

Kurona wrote:Unfortunately, Hasbro stated they're not doing the blue cassette. The only possible hope would be Takara.

How stupid.

:MAXIMAL:

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:08 pm**

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm going to cry when Titan Returns ends. I haven't loved a Transformers line like this one ever.

Same here.

I don't have been so enthusiast/happy since Galaxy force/cybertron.
I think it's probably because of the common gimmik which gives consistancy to the line, but probably not the only reason.
I'm not sure power of prime will gave me the same satisfaction.

While there's discussion about the incoming waves, is theres some discussion/prediction about the incoming giftsets ? I'm overthinking a lot about these and I would like to share and discuss.

Hasbro has confirmed more giftsets after Velocitron and attack on cybertron. So since then I'm overthinking, trying to predict what the content would be.

I think it's pretty sure we'll get at least two sets, as each clones need their counterparts.
So 2 leader, 2 voyagers, 2 deluxes, 2 legends.

What is quite predictable :

- Cloudraker, or wathever they want to call him
- Wingspan, or wathever they want to call him
- GodBomber, in order to match the Ginrai repaint in attack of cybertron.

Which leaves 1 leader, 2 voyagers and 2 deluxes. The first two gifsets shows only repaints and no retools at all (except the clones), only head swaps, so I assume it'll be the same. Let's play then :

Which other leader will be repainted ?
- Sounwave as Soundblaster ?
- Blaster into Twincast ?
- Sky Shadow as ? SlamDance ? (tell me you never thought about this..)
- Overlord as ? StarSaber ? (ok it's stupid, but the plane mode is not so far away)

Can we imagine a repaint of megatron in G2 colors to match Laser Prime repaint ?

What other voyager could be repainted ?
- Galvatron ? I can't see into what, it' really looks too much as Galvatron, whatever color it is.
- Alpha Trion into Lio Convoy ? I would hate Hasbro as I got Takara version. (but so possible and obvious..)
- Sentinel Prime/Optimus : probably already too much repainted.

And the deluxes ? I have no clues here. When I see Metalhawk in the other set, I think everything is possible. And I don't read Comics to know who is popular to predict somthing like Nautica.
Let's try one :
- Kup as Orion Pax ? (based on the old ehobby repaint)

Anyone wants to join the overthinking ?

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:21 pm**

Sigma Magnus wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:Shuffled and Ramhorn will be mine one way or another and Octone is looking pretty good here, I may have to consider him.

RodimusConvoy, how did you put Skullsmasher's tail on his arm like that? I assume it's just friction.

Sorta/kinda. You know how you can have Skullsmasher hold his tail? That handle has a small opening that's the exact size of the Titan Master peg, so I pegged it into the TM peg that's on his forearm. It's not quite centered, so it's a little off, but it fits and stays on and looks cooler than just having him hold the tail.

I've been trying to do this for about twenty minutes, and it isn't working. Could we have some close-up pics of this?

Sorry. I won't be back at the office until Tuesday and that's where Skullsmasher is.

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:23 pm**

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:I've been trying to do this for about twenty minutes, and it isn't working. Could we have some close-up pics of this?
Sorry. I won't be back at the office until Tuesday and that's where Skullsmasher is.

That's fine, I can wait. Just don't forget, y'hear? :-P

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:34 pm**

i never got why they had to make ramhorn a titan master and not something that fits inside blaster like rewind :-?

whats next blue frenzy as a titan master?

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:41 pm**

Ultra Markus wrote:i never got why they had to make ramhorn a titan master and not something that fits inside blaster like rewind whats next blue frenzy as a titan master?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:18 pm**

ExciKaiser wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:i never got why they had to make ramhorn a titan master and not something that fits inside blaster like rewind whats next blue frenzy as a titan master?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/

but what they shown isnt really ramhorn just a rhino looking headmaster, they could have gone with all of those designs as the titanmasters and left the other headmasters and non headmasters like they should be

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:52 pm**

Ultra Markus wrote:
ExciKaiser wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:i never got why they had to make ramhorn a titan master and not something that fits inside blaster like rewind whats next blue frenzy as a titan master?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/

but what they shown isnt really ramhorn just a rhino looking headmaster, they could have gone with all of those designs as the titanmasters and left the other headmasters and non headmasters like they should be

Well, Shuffler needed to be redecoed/retooled into something as part of the "2-use-per-mold-to-break-even" policy, a rhinoceros is close enough to an elephant, plus they can sneak in an obscure or unused design we fans drool over. :ic$:

Me, I just want Shuffler, but my Walmart keeps stocking the Titan Master pegs with RiD Legions!!! They're not even the same price! :BANG_HEAD:

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:15 pm**

Randomhero wrote:So there you go. Just looking at the facts, we are getting another wave after wave 5.

I'm not even sure if Apeface and Snapdragon will be new molds, also for Deathsaurus.....
i guess we will wait after that wave soon

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:25 pm**

ExciKaiser wrote:Can we imagine a repaint of megatron in G2 colors to match Laser Prime repaint ?

Daaamn, imagine that TR Megatron in that tank mode with that camo dazzle, i bet the Jet Mode will be some alot of :G2CON:

insignia on the Jet mode ;)^

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:59 pm**

Also, whatever happened to Optimus Prime and Trizer? They were supposed to be Ramhorn's case mates, and have product codes assigned to them (C2389 and C2390).

Posted: **Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:05 pm**

ExciKaiser wrote:Can we imagine a repaint of megatron in G2 colors to match Laser Prime repaint ?

What other voyager could be repainted ?
- Galvatron ? I can't see into what, it' really looks too much as Galvatron, whatever color it is.
- Alpha Trion into Lio Convoy ? I would hate Hasbro as I got Takara version. (but so possible and obvious..)
- Sentinel Prime/Optimus : probably already too much repainted.

Anyone wants to join the overthinking ?

I think a G2 colored "green and purple camo" TR Voyager Megatron is a given, to match up with G2 Laser Optimus Prime. Although, they could do the purple and black camo from the "Hero Megatron" release instead. The proper counterpart to Laser Prime in Generation 2, however, was actually the limited release Megatron and Starscream repaints of G2 Smokescreen and Dreadwing. Hmmm...that could be a good third use of the Overlord mold, wouldn't you say?

As for Voyager Galvatron, it's almost a given that it will pop up in one of the box sets, since it's one of the only voyagers that hasn't been reused as yet at all. I don't count Alpha Trion, since he at least has some parts sharing going on with Broadside. The mold reuse would most likely still be another version of Galvatron, I would imagine, as his silhouette is just far too unique and iconic to be any other character. I could see the Galvatron reuse either being a G1 toy colors Galvatron, maybe dubbed "Galvatron II," or perhaps an actual screen accurate G1 cartoon Galvatron, with a lighter shade of purple for his many color and added paint apps here and there like the Takara Tomy Legends release. Heck, they could even retool it to have a proper head, or at least make it so the mask/helmet actually sits flush with the Titan Master. Don't put it past Hasbro to put a desirable update to an already released figure/character in a box set to make even more money.

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