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I just can't get into this new scream mold, it just seems like such a downgrade to me; might get skywarp if it's a mainline release this time round, as that was the only classics seekers mold I ever got

Counterpunch wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ah those. Never seen them, but then again, let's see if the final releases suffer from that when properly tabbed in.

:EDIT: and he does! Darn.

I kept hoping people were simply not being careful enough with the transformation.

All it took was a thumbnail of a video review. It showed it hooked in properly, and it still had the gaps.

I'm still interested in the new Seeker mold even with the gap. To me, it's essentially "The Classics Seeker mold but more the size it should have been", so as far as an Earth Mode toy for them I can't really complain too much. Especially since A. it lends itself well to the Coneheads and B. It's a Voyager Earth-mode G1 Seeker mold without the chunk of PotP Starscream.

Honestly, that gap between the chest ducts and the intakes is pretty tiny, looking at the photo. It'll probably look more like a molded recess in hand. And the torso side gaps look to be more covered than they are on the Classics Deluxe mold. Another plus compared to the Classics figure is that the face is actually covered in jet mode.

The only real downgrade compared to the SIEGE Seekers is the lack of waist rotation, but that's a minor hit for how nice he is overall. Especially since the feet on this mold look like they'll actually work reliably with the C.O.M.B.A.T. system. Which is NOT the case with the SIEGE Seekers, thanks to a combination of the toe and heel pieces getting in the way, and mold issues preventing the engine halves from closing up properly (which leaves the sockets too loose to hold pegs).

Counterpunch wrote:

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This will soon be me, but with Smashdowns.

Very nice, better share some pictures of some long ramps

I think its safe to say that the Battlerchargers and many Throttlebots will be repaints of Cliffjumper

grimdragon2001 wrote:

I think its safe to say that the Battlerchargers and many Throttlebots will be repaints of Cliffjumper

Just half of the Throttlebots, and one was already made (Chase aka Roadburn).

How many Walmart sightings have we had? Any?

Counterpunch wrote:How many Walmart sightings have we had? Any?

I thought my bro picked up my Grapple at Walmart but it was a Target in Scottsdale, AZ.

Counterpunch wrote:How many Walmart sightings have we had? Any?

none

We have news that Transformers Earthrise leader class Optimus Prime and Astrtotrain have been found at Canadian retail. Primetyme from Cybertron.ca found them in Ontario and provided pictures. Fans report having seen them at both Toysrus and Walmart. They were priced at $69.99. For those wondering, Earthrise Astrotrain is identical to Siege Astrotrain, right down to the dirt effects.

If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

Most of this line has been found in the US aside from the Battle Master class, so if you find that please let us know. And if any international members find the Earthrise figures, let us know.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm still interested in the new Seeker mold even with the gap. To me, it's essentially "The Classics Seeker mold but more the size it should have been", so as far as an Earth Mode toy for them I can't really complain too much. Especially since A. it lends itself well to the Coneheads and B. It's a Voyager Earth-mode G1 Seeker mold without the chunk of PotP Starscream.

Honestly, that gap between the chest ducts and the intakes is pretty tiny, looking at the photo. It'll probably look more like a molded recess in hand. And the torso side gaps look to be more covered than they are on the Classics Deluxe mold. Another plus compared to the Classics figure is that the face is actually covered in jet mode.

The only real downgrade compared to the SIEGE Seekers is the lack of waist rotation, but that's a minor hit for how nice he is overall. Especially since the feet on this mold look like they'll actually work reliably with the C.O.M.B.A.T. system. Which is NOT the case with the SIEGE Seekers, thanks to a combination of the toe and heel pieces getting in the way, and mold issues preventing the engine halves from closing up properly (which leaves the sockets too loose to hold pegs).

Based on what I've seen from video reviews, Earthrise Screamer actually has a lot less articulation than the Siege mold. No waist articulation, no wrist articulation, no forward/backward ankle tilts, no double-jointed elbows, far less range in his knees, and even less articulated wings. And while it's not really fair to compare articulation with the Siege seekers (which is the most articulated mass-release voyager mold I've ever seen), the lack of waist and wrist articulation puts ER Screamer behind the standard set by the rest of the voyagers from Siege and Earthrise.

No one has the new Starscream yet? I am just curious about his transformation

Am I wrong for having no interest at all for the new seekers. The only two who I care about personality wise is Skywarp and Thundercracker, so I don't see myself picking up figures with less articulation and a boring alt-mode. No offense to those who love the F-15 Eagle design but I just find a plane jet boring.

Counterpunch wrote:

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You're the best at collecting and we should all learn from this wisdom.

william-james88 wrote:For those wondering, Earthrise Astrotrain is identical to Siege Astrotrain, right down to the dirt effects.

Most of this line has been found in the US aside from the Battle Master class, so if you find that please let us know. And if any international members find the Earthrise figures, let us know.

Has anyone bought both and taken pics? Honest question. I never trust a repack to be only a repack until it's proven to be.

For the Battle Masters, see Counterpunch's post on the previous page.

ScottyP wrote:Has anyone bought both and taken pics? Honest question. I never trust a repack to be only a repack until it's proven to be.

I don't have both, only the Siege version, but comparing that to the photo Will posted, they look to be completely identical, down to the plastic tie going through both of his fist holes.

aronjlove wrote:Am I wrong for having no interest at all for the new seekers. The only two who I care about personality wise is Skywarp and Thundercracker, so I don't see myself picking up figures with less articulation and a boring alt-mode. No offense to those who love the F-15 Eagle design but I just find a plane jet boring.

I'm on the fence personally. I ordered mine with the Hasbro Pulse black Friday 20% off coupon, and that is probably the only thing that is keeping me from cancelling it. I love the Siege version, and I've gotten myself to a point where I don't want that many repeats of the same characters, and don't really care about a faithful G1 altmode. So I may very well end up cancelling by the end of the month before he ships.

Besides, we are certain to get repaints of other seekers, so I'll still get to enjoy the mold assuming we get some seekers that weren't part of Siege.

Plus, now that I see how much of a discount you can get if you play the waiting game with Amazon and Walmart, I'm actually thinking that may end up being a better deal than Pulse, and if I miss out, ho Well, I already have a Screamer that I love.

Yep, just talked myself into cancelling on Pulse.

Microbot wrote:No one has the new Starscream yet? I am just curious about his transformation

Here's a video review if you want a look at his transformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmIl3A_DQw0

Also, is this news? I don't remember video reviews for Starscream or Grapple being previously posted.

Tuned, a lack of waist swivel is sadly the price of putting the G1 Seeker design in a retail toy because of where things end up. I also don't see how you can call the wings less articulated when they A. still rotate and B. have that hinge in the middle. And the tradeoff for losing the unified back-and-forth ankle tilts is having more functional sideways ankle tilts (which are more important, for my money. Especially with the C.O.M.B.A.T. system.)

I'm excited for what Earthrise offers and hopeful for a "submarine" Leader Megatron to go with Optimus. I just have misgivings about the timing considering the distribution problems with SIEGE in my area.

Also at least Earthrise Starscream can't be seperated from his alt mode the same way you can with the Siege Seeker mold

As ZeldaTheSwordsman pointed out, the articulation is the way it is because of the more involved transformation, so its a trade off.

Yeah, given the way his arms transform there was really no way to implement a waist swivel. And again, if Siege Starscream is the standard we hold all figures to (articulation wise), we will be disappointed 99% of the time. Earthrise Screamer hits all the important articulation points, even if he doesn't have some of the "gravy" ones. And on the flip side, his alt mode is definitely superior to the Siege mold, it's one of the best jet modes we've ever gotten.

And what I meant about the wings is that the ER mold can't angle its wings up in robot mode like the Siege mold can. Very minor nitpick that I only bring up because that's how I like to pose the Siegekers.

ScottyP wrote:Has anyone bought both and taken pics? Honest question. I never trust a repack to be only a repack until it's proven to be.

I saw that written on the boards where this latest picture comes from and I also saw in the image that his legs still have all that gunk. That was good enough for me.

Tuned Agent wrote:

Microbot wrote:No one has the new Starscream yet? I am just curious about his transformation

Here's a video review if you want a look at his transformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmIl3A_DQw0

Also, is this news? I don't remember video reviews for Starscream or Grapple being previously posted.

Yes it's news, could you please send it to the news staff team? Just click the submit news button at the top of the seibertorn web page on the right.

william-james88 wrote:Yes it's news, could you please send it to the news staff team? Just click the submit news button at the top of the seibertorn web page on the right.

Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to the efforts of fellow Seibertron user, Turned Agent, we have discovered two new video reviews of the first wave of Earthrise Voyagers! These are of course Earth Mode Starscream and Grapple. These are slowly making their way into general release, with some already into eager buyers hands.

These video reviews are done by YouTuber, JCM45. We have embedded the videos for your convenience below.

Earth Mode Starscream



Grapple



What do you think of these reviews? Does it wet your appetite for these Voyagers? Are you holding out for a different Seeker recolour? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Has anyone bought both and taken pics? Honest question. I never trust a repack to be only a repack until it's proven to be.

I don't have both, only the Siege version, but comparing that to the photo Will posted, they look to be completely identical, down to the plastic tie going through both of his fist holes.

william-james88 wrote:I saw that written on the boards where this latest picture comes from and I also saw in the image that his legs still have all that gunk. That was good enough for me.

So the answer is "no" then, got it. I mean, yes a straight repack appears to be the intention and 99% likely to actually be the case, but hearing assumptions like that thrown around as fact for years on some Superlink and Galaxy Force items that were merely very similar but not identical after all scarred me.

ScottyP wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Has anyone bought both and taken pics? Honest question. I never trust a repack to be only a repack until it's proven to be.

I don't have both, only the Siege version, but comparing that to the photo Will posted, they look to be completely identical, down to the plastic tie going through both of his fist holes.

william-james88 wrote:I saw that written on the boards where this latest picture comes from and I also saw in the image that his legs still have all that gunk. That was good enough for me.

So the answer is "no" then, got it. I mean, yes a straight repack appears to be the intention and 99% likely to actually be the case, but hearing assumptions like that thrown around as fact for years on some Superlink and Galaxy Force items that were merely very similar but not identical after all scarred me.

It's ok Scotty 2 Hotty, we're here for you.