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D R E W wrote:When I first heard there would be a cyber battalion shockwave, I was excited as hell. And hot damn, I love that thing. The spaceship is ok I guess, but that robot mode is absolutely perfect. And the ship is 3 times better than that spider tank thing the cyberverse figure has. A buy for sure if I can find him

Flashwave wrote:10 times better than Cyberverse.

While I dont think the Cyberverse is great, I dont think this is so much of an improvement. Both seem to lack in articulation, and this one more so. Probably no knees, no thigh swivel, and no universal joints, and hollow to the extreme (which has to be since they are stretching out the material to make a bigger toy). Are all you guys ok with this? I find it hard to believe when I keep seeing the same "happy meal toy" comment similarly simplistic toys are revealed.

Also, I think the alt mode looks terrible. I hate seeing those arms there hanging in the back and I have no clue why they would go out of their way to have a fake robot mode head visible in alt mode. That was dumb with the FOC toy but at least you could ignore it there. Here its harder to ignore.

I dont think either this nor the cyberverse is going to satisfy our Shockwave itch, but if I were to pick one, I might go for Cyberverse simply because the alt mode and articulation looks slightly better.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Oh please, PLEASE tell me that Shockwave's knees rotate on a ball joint and not just a hinge, he looks so good that it'd be a shame if he lacked knee articulation

The instructions show the back including the inside of the knees, and from the looks of it, it's a mushroom peg type swivel.

Oh, I know, that's why I'm practically begging, there's no reason for it to be just a mushroom peg, the balljoint would acomplish the exact same function AND provide a bending knee WITHOUT INCREASING PARTS COUNT.

So...i just realized that Cyber Battalion Shockwave's package art is the same as Combiner Wars Shockwave's!? Could this mean that Sideswipe's package art is unreleased Combiner Wars Sideswipe's package art? Or could it even be Power of the Primes Sideswipe's? I'm still holding out hope for CW/PotP Sideswipe

Hate to break it but unless it appears down the line as a may mayhem, I don't think you're getting a sideswipe. We know all the deluxes that we're getting in potp. Now if they retool his alt mode a tad to make it more cybertonain then you may get him in the next trilogy of toylines. If he does then you can point out that they reused this sideswipes artwork

That Shockwave is gorgeous.

Big Grim wrote:That Shockwave is gorgeous.

He is. No knees though.

Notrab on Weibo has posted an image of the robot mode for the new Shockwave toy we only saw yesterday for the first time. This is part of the Cyber Battalion line which is made up of bigger, simpler, and less expensve Transformer toys of recognizable characters. As you can see from the photo comparing it to the Masterpiece toy, this Shockwave is the same height as a Voyager. The image shows us that Hasbro chose a darker grape purple color. We also have a better sense of the articulation. Like with most other figures in this line aimed at young children, there is a lack of knees and bicep swivel. Is this a dealbreaker for any fan out there? For those hoping to pick him up, so far he has been found in Taiwan and previous toys in this line were found at Universal Studios and Walgreens in the US. If any fan finds more images of this toy on the internet, in either mode, please let us know.

Shockwave looks fantastic! That's a must buy, for me.

Oof, no knees.

Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

No knees

No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

william-james88 wrote:

Big Grim wrote:That Shockwave is gorgeous.

He is. No knees though.

I can forgive that, being what it is.

There's something deeply unsettling yet amusing that one of the best looking CHUG scale Shockwaves in recent years is also a cheaply made brick intended for small children. Like, that sculpt is superb- it's almost wasted on that line. That said I would have adored him as a kid so mission accomplished I guess. The lack of knees is weird though, a balljoint would have made sense for that.

Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.

They could always retool him slightly, upping the parts count and release him for wfc. Of course he'll be retailed for full voyager cost

I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them

grimdragon2001 wrote:I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them

He is the exact same size as the jetfire in the image below so that should give you an idea:


And he would scale with TR Megatron similarly to how Starscream scales with him below:

Randomhero wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

YoungPrime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Sadly they do this because they know that people will still buy it due to waiting for a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave for years now.

But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....

And next I'm betting will be a Generations Leader class instead of a decent Voyager class Shockwave with legs that actually bend.

It's becoming the biggest downside to collecting.

ZeroWolf wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!

william-james88 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.

How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.

YoungPrime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???

Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!

Then you don't have to get it other people will and will have fun knowing the flaws.