Well, I sure am glad I have Legends Arcee, because this is disappointing. Not only does it mean that yet another fembot is relegated to being a retool (at least HI I'M WINDBLADE was a heavily modified one) but they seriously missed an opportunity to use that canned Override/Nitro Convoy exclusive concept instead. For one, the mold would actually suit Override, but more importantly she's a character who hasn't gotten a new toy yet and whose existing toy is a bit "Eh" at best. Or heck, they could have done Elita 1, whose only toy is a redeco of Cybertron Thunderblast.
I mean, on the plus side Legends/Generations Arcee already exists so we do have a decent Arcee toy, but this still seems kind of a waste. I get it, Arcee was a Headmaster very briefly, but given that Blurr doesn't really look anything like G1 cartoon Arcee it doesn't do much beyond lip service to the concept. I am glad they didn't go with Chromedome though, that mold would not suit Arcee at all.
william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.
The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.
Was this confirmed? I have been struggling to follow the box sets news with opinion assumptions and facts all blending together in message boards.
In this video:
yup! no Pounce & Fastlane this year(although its weird then why they showed those at NY Toyfair )
they also teased that we may still be getting Omega & Scorponok(& Mega Zarak)
Black Hat wrote:Well, I sure am glad I have Legends Arcee, because this is disappointing. Not only does it mean that yet another fembot is relegated to being a retool (at least HI I'M WINDBLADE was a heavily modified one) but they seriously missed an opportunity to use that canned Override/Nitro Convoy exclusive concept instead. For one, the mold would actually suit Override, but more importantly she's a character who hasn't gotten a new toy yet and whose existing toy is a bit "Eh" at best. Or heck, they could have done Elita 1, whose only toy is a redeco of Cybertron Thunderblast.
I mean, on the plus side Legends/Generations Arcee already exists so we do have a decent Arcee toy, but this still seems kind of a waste. I get it, Arcee was a Headmaster very briefly, but given that Blurr doesn't really look anything like G1 cartoon Arcee it doesn't do much beyond lip service to the concept. I am glad they didn't go with Chromedome though, that mold would not suit Arcee at all.
Oh, how I would have loved to have seen an Upgraded Prime incarnation of Arcee.....as it stands, I have three versions of her (Generations, Legends, Combiner Hunters).
That TM will have to be pretty cool, since I'm not crazy about another repaint of the Blurr transtector.
Assuming that the Titans Return Arcee card art is legitimate, and the list of six previously unknown Titan Master names from the Trypticon Crunch poster, I think Leinad is the Titan Master for Nautica. The card shows that Arcee is a retool of Blurr, but we've already had three character uses of that basic mold, one of them being a pink-ish purple female character, e.g. Nautica. Another use as a primarily pink female character would be a little much, even for cost-cutting Hasbro. I bet that Hasbro originally intended to do an Arcee remold of Blurr, but changed their minds and made her Nautica instead, since there is such demand for that character (who has never had toy representation before) and Arcee did get a pretty definitive figure a few years back in the Thrilling 30 line (and a rerelease in the Autobot Heroes set last year). Or, perhaps Hasbro tried to retool Blurr into Arcee, but had trouble getting the alt mode and/or robot silhouette to look right, so they went for Nautica instead, which looks like a much easier retool, honestly, with just the new shoulder fans added. So, Arcee probably was going to get "Daniel" as a Titan Master to reference "The Rebirth" episodes of the G1 cartoon. That doesn't make sense for Nautica, though, so they just reversed the spelling of the name to make a "different" character to be Nautica's Titan Master partner.
Thoughts?
No, not at all. It's Parsec, and the future Arcee gets "Leinad/Daniel" It just makes sense from their established characters. Nautica is an subspace engineer and parsec is a measurement of light travel. Daniel was Arcee's headmaster in the cartoon. Nothing more to it.
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As for that supposed Arcee, unless it's confirmed by Hasbro, it's just Photoshopped fan-wank to me. The pose of the figure and the layout of the card is inconsistent with every other TR release so far. But if Arcee were to be a retool instead of an original mold, Blurr is the best choice.
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As for that supposed Arcee, unless it's confirmed by Hasbro, it's just Photoshopped fan-wank to me. The pose of the figure and the layout of the card is inconsistent with every other TR release so far. But if Arcee were to be a retool instead of an original mold, Blurr is the best choice.
The exact same thing happened to Cosmos and Seaspary's cards.
Remember all of those leaked TR arts that everybody said were fake like Six shot and Astrotrain that turned out to be legit?
And the fact that this is a blurr remold and not a new mold on the card makes it all the more likely it's real because no fan is going to know what it looks like.
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As for that supposed Arcee, unless it's confirmed by Hasbro, it's just Photoshopped fan-wank to me. The pose of the figure and the layout of the card is inconsistent with every other TR release so far. But if Arcee were to be a retool instead of an original mold, Blurr is the best choice.
The exact same thing happened to Cosmos and Seaspary's cards.
Remember all of those leaked TR arts that everybody said were fake like Six shot and Astrotrain that turned out to be legit?
And the fact that this is a blurr remold and not a new mold on the card makes it all the more likely it's real because no fan is going to know what it looks like.
I'd be happy if it was legit and would get the figure, and I also hope she gets repainted into the other G1 fembots. Elita-1, Nautica, Chromia and Firestar, right?
These are from one of the cancelled-maybe-not-cancelled boxsets. That would explain the lone Titan Master, the mold re-usage, the different borders that are inconsistent with the rest of the cards -- AND the fact Hasbro kept tip-toeing around Headmaster Arcee whenever she was brought up, and hinting more towards POTP than TR. It's looking like these boxsets might be cancelled and these are just the remnants that are showing up now, scattered across the murky catacombs of the internet. Shame too, I really would have liked Arcee.
Kurona wrote:... suddenly, this is all starting to add up.
These are from one of the cancelled-maybe-not-cancelled boxsets. That would explain the lone Titan Master, the mold re-usage, the different borders that are inconsistent with the rest of the cards -- AND the fact Hasbro kept tip-toeing around Headmaster Arcee whenever she was brought up, and hinting more towards POTP than TR. It's looking like these boxsets might be cancelled and these are just the remnants that are showing up now, scattered across the murky catacombs of the internet. Shame too, I really would have liked Arcee.
I don't think their cancelled just yet since box sets don't have to abide by the same rules as normal standard line products I think. (correct me if I'm wrong)
I think they might be saved for POTP but if I remember correctly wasn't Computron and Liokaiser released after CW was over?
Leaked Artwork of Titan Master Ultra Magnus from Transformers Titans Return
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:46 pm
by william-james88
Maybe there are some more Titan Returns reveal in store for us before SDCC 2017 ends, but not from Hasbro. Instead we have another leaked image from 淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂 on Weibo. This one depicts Ultra Magnus as a Titan Master, which works with the reveals on the Trypticon cereal box that have an Ultra Magnus Titan Master listed. It is also worth noting that this Titan master is noted as being part of the Intelligence box set, a set that might not be coming out anymore if the rumours from SDCC turn out to be true. Like the previously leaked Arcee (whose Titan Master Leinad is also on the Trypticon cereal box), the artwork is more dynamic than usual. As of right now we are unsure if this is of a now cancelled product or a product that will be coming out in a different fashion. Below is the image followed by a quote from fellow Seibertronian Kurona giving her theories using all the info we have gathered so far.
Kurona wrote:... suddenly, this is all starting to add up. These are from one of the cancelled-maybe-not-cancelled boxsets. That would explain the lone Titan Master, the mold re-usage, the different borders that are inconsistent with the rest of the cards -- AND the fact Hasbro kept tip-toeing around Headmaster Arcee whenever she was brought up, and hinting more towards POTP than TR. It's looking like these boxsets might be cancelled and these are just the remnants that are showing up now, scattered across the murky catacombs of the internet. Shame too, I really would have liked Arcee.
Kurona wrote:... suddenly, this is all starting to add up.
These are from one of the cancelled-maybe-not-cancelled boxsets. That would explain the lone Titan Master, the mold re-usage, the different borders that are inconsistent with the rest of the cards -- AND the fact Hasbro kept tip-toeing around Headmaster Arcee whenever she was brought up, and hinting more towards POTP than TR. It's looking like these boxsets might be cancelled and these are just the remnants that are showing up now, scattered across the murky catacombs of the internet. Shame too, I really would have liked Arcee.
I don't think their cancelled just yet since box sets don't have to abide by the same rules as normal standard line products I think. (correct me if I'm wrong)
I think they might be saved for POTP but if I remember correctly wasn't Computron and Liokaiser released after CW was over?
They were but Liokaiser was not under the CW line, he was in the platinum line.
I dont know what you mean by them having to abide by rules or not. The fact that they dont have to abide by anything means to me that they are more likely to get cancelled since you only have to cancel orders with 1 buyer (due to them being exclusive).
Kurona wrote:... suddenly, this is all starting to add up.
These are from one of the cancelled-maybe-not-cancelled boxsets. That would explain the lone Titan Master, the mold re-usage, the different borders that are inconsistent with the rest of the cards -- AND the fact Hasbro kept tip-toeing around Headmaster Arcee whenever she was brought up, and hinting more towards POTP than TR. It's looking like these boxsets might be cancelled and these are just the remnants that are showing up now, scattered across the murky catacombs of the internet. Shame too, I really would have liked Arcee.
See I don't think that is the case for one reason, the strength and speed sets do not come with collector's cards for each individual member. They come with one card that replicates the box art. So it wouldn't make sense for the last two to do something different.
What I think is more likely is that there never were any plans to do 4 big box sets. Everyone just got caught up in the themes of the other two and jumped to conclusions. I think the biggest indicator of that is the Walgreens exclusive clone pack. There's no way that they would have been able to scrape together a deal with Walgreens last minute, this was planned from the beginning. I believe that the Arcee and Ultra Magnus cards instead indicate smaller multi packs that have yet to be revealed.
Also, what's the point in arguing? Just wait and see.
It's not really arguing so much as it is sharing speculation and theories. As long as none of us are being rude about it or assuming to know how Hasbro works more than the other I think it's fine
Kurona wrote:I get the idea they used Daniel's name backwards so as to seem more robotic and such rather than having a human name -- I don't recall the last time a Transformers toy had a human name (not counting the ones that actually are made to be human like those PVC tfp kids).
Off the top of my head, and from Hasbro's side (since Takara TFs with human-sounding names are a dime a dozen)... whatever the last Hasbro toy named "Hightower" was would qualify, as that's a human surname.
Lunatic Prime wrote: That's definitely the mold that already appeared for Hyperfire, Stylor and Teslor. Just his face looks a bit different.
Well spotted. It looks like any differences in the mold come from artistic liberties or painting over the face. Man, the Blurr mold's getting busy in these boxsets...
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:47 pm
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