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^ Every area is different. The 3 major chains all have plenty of wave 4 TM's right now in my area. The last thing I saw clearanced out was Rid15 Minicons, and that was last year sometime.

Though it was odd, when I saw the Deluxes at Target yesterday, they had advertised "New Low Price" of $15.29 (or something close to that, it was in the low $15 and change).

WJ- If you see this, we started talking about repack waves in the PotP thread, is there a good source that breaks down all the repack waves? I'm not too familiar with them, just what was in each main release. And with that said, I just wanted to give my overall assessment of distribution of TR Deluxes in my general area...

Wave 1- Plenty of all, spotted multiple times
Wave 2- All Spotted, but Mindwipe was definitely the rarest with only a couple sightings
Wave 3- Plenty of all, spotted multiple times
Wave 4- All Spotted, but Topspin and Perceptor have been the rarest, only a couple of sightings of each
Wave 5- No Sightings thus far
*Wave 6* - No Sightings thus far

We have some suprising tidbit of news, coming to us from Facebook collector group Hobbymizer Hong Kong Discuss and their user Thomas Tam. You'll remember the flurry of activity that happened during New York Comic Con 2017, as the Hasbro exclusive Transformers Titans Return Grotusque was made available just after its reveal at the event itself, over on Hasbro Toy Shop (check here for the story) - well, it looks like there may have been more in stock than initially thought, or the exclusivity wasn't as limited as we were led to believe, as the figure has turned up at retail in Hong Kong, allegedly at Toys'R'Us.

We don't know the sourcing of the figure for the store, whether Hasbro Asia had some extras in stock, or if this was intentional from thestart, but there you have it. Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!

wolverinetodd wrote:Most of the Wal-Marts in my neck of the woods discontinued the Titan Masters mini-figures, placing them on clearance a couple months back. So it's not likely Ramhorn will be found in Wal-Marts in the USA if the decision to clearance the Titan Masters was nationwide.

My local Walmarts did the same thing with TM and Legends late in the summer, but then about a month later put the pegs back up and restocked TM wave 3 and Legends wave 4.

I mentioned this in the haul thread, but if anyone is still looking for wave 4 Shuffler and Repugnus and you have a mall near by check out the seasonal Go! Calendar stores, I saw a few of each there last weekend.

Emerje

Va'al wrote:We have some suprising tidbit of news, coming to us from Facebook collector group Hobbymizer Hong Kong Discuss and their user Thomas Tam. You'll remember the flurry of activity that happened during New York Comic Con 2017, as the Hasbro exclusive Transformers Titans Return Grotusque was made available just after its reveal at the event itself, over on Hasbro Toy Shop (check here for the story) - well, it looks like there may have been more in stock than initially thought, or the exclusivity wasn't as limited as we were led to believe, as the figure has turned up at retail in Hong Kong, allegedly at Toys'R'Us.

We don't know the sourcing of the figure for the store, whether Hasbro Asia had some extras in stock, or if this was intentional from thestart, but there you have it. Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!

I was wondering how Hong Kong sellers on eBay got the figure.

o.supreme wrote:WJ- If you see this, we started talking about repack waves in the PotP thread, is there a good source that breaks down all the repack waves? I'm not too familiar with them, just what was in each main release.

Sure no problem, there are LOTS though, so here we go:

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7769D2

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7762D1

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7762C1

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB4697D1

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... HSB4697D11

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... HSB7771D11

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7762B1

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... HSB4697B11

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7769D1

In the end, I dont think I will make a news post since technically none of this is new, people have been seeing these for a while and even though they may not know it, it would just confuse people for no good reason.

Keep checking a TRU if you can. I found Shuffler and Repugnus in a TRU a few months ago, and they continue to have the titan masters, the only stores in my area that still carry them

Thanks, but yeah I can see how that could cause all kinds of confusion. I'm not sure if all those repack waves made it to all areas, or even why some of them exist. Way to much redistribution of certain characters, and not enough of others.

If there was to be a final repack (wave 6...), the ideal one for my area would b:. Mindwipe, Misfire, Slugslinger, Perceptor, Twin Twist, Top Spin, (since one of the wave repacks did have 6 figs at 2 each, I figure this can happen as well...) . Probably wont though .

Ah, good ole Wave 2 Revision 1. That's the one that killed the shelves of every Walmart in my area. Still is in many of them.

While this is not breaking news, the confusion regarding the revision waves for the Transformers Titans Return line made us think a quick article may be in order. Several fans are looking for wave 5 and 6 of the Titans Return deluxes at retail stores and are instead reporting toys they have seen all year long. However, it may not be older toys shelf-warming but instead a restock of several revision waves. And this is happening all across both the US and Canada. For instance, while wave 6, the one with Slugslinger, did appear in Canada for a very brief moment (as it did in the US), the restocks following those cases have been of the revised 4th wave, which can be seen in the images below (a case breakdown of the wave can be found at the end of this article). It appears to be the main wave used as a restock for this holiday season, as far as reported sightings are concerned.





There is another revision wave, for wave 3, that can also be found but it is trickier to identify. It is basically the same as wave 3 but instead of having 3 Hot Rods and one Getaway it has 2 Hot Rod and 2 Getaways.

These two revision waves would explain the abundance of Twinfernos on the shelves.

Here is the case breakdown for deluxe class wave 4 revision, the wave currently being found across the US and Canada:

2x TRA GEN DELUXE AUTOBOT TWINFERNO
2x TRA GEN DELUXE TRIGGERHAPPY
2x TRA GEN DELUXE KROK
2x TRA GEN DELUXE QUAKE

f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

GIMMEE DAT SQUEEKS

Dammit! I want a Twin Twist!

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

Where's Grotusque??!!!

Bah - I still can't find Misfire or Slugslinger. Not interested in this 'revision' lot...

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

Hasbro's free PR has spoken......

Now back to being disappointed about Hasbro releasing more old TR waves to shelf warm until March of 2018. We can also blame Bayformers crap for getting in the way of this stuff not already being sold last Summer.

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

That's not what I meant and you know it.

It used to be hard enough to find figures when there were four waves a year, and now it's almost 8 thanks to these revisions, none of which have a single figure people seem to be looking for (perceptor, kup, misfire, twintwist, slugslinger, etc.), which makes them superfluous, the shelfwarming leftovers are clear evidence that these figures aren't landing with common buyers or collectors, yet they keep putting them in additional revisions (twinferno, etc.)

I put to you that, had these revisions had contents along the lines of: Kup, 2 x misfire, 2 x slugslinger, and twintwist (cases come with 6 figures), we'd be in a much better spot as collectors, but, no, they're just rereleasing wave 1 ('17) over and over again

YoungPrime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

Hasbro's free PR has spoken......

Now back to being disappointed about Hasbro releasing more old TR waves to shelf warm until March of 2018. We can also blame Bayformers crap for getting in the way of this stuff not already being sold last Summer.

I don't blame it all; personally, releasing slash (a figure that didn't sell well first time round) alongside an underwhelming 'bee and a shiny grimlock wasn't a smart choice, in fact, I'd have skipped the repaints and just done a shorter run of figures, those stupid allspark things are neither helping, nor selling, so I also blame them

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

That's not what I meant and you know it.

It used to be hard enough to find figures when there were four waves a year, and now it's almost 8 thanks to these revisions, none of which have a single figure people seem to be looking for (perceptor, kup, misfire, twintwist, slugslinger, etc.), which makes them superfluous, the shelfwarming leftovers are clear evidence that these figures aren't landing with common buyers or collectors, yet they keep putting them in additional revisions (twinferno, etc.)

I put to you that, had these revisions had contents along the lines of: Kup, 2 x misfire, 2 x slugslinger, and twintwist (cases come with 6 figures), we'd be in a much better spot as collectors, but, no, they're just rereleasing wave 1 ('17) over and over again

If you don't want to be mocked, use proper nouns and proper words. Seems simple enough.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't blame it all; personally, releasing slash (a figure that didn't sell well first time round) alongside an underwhelming 'bee and a shiny grimlock wasn't a smart choice, in fact, I'd have skipped the repaints and just done a shorter run of figures, those stupid allspark things are neither helping, nor selling, so I also blame them

Sadly, I believe that underwhelming Bee redeco is the best selling TF of 2017.

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!

Here... lemnme fix that for ya.

Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make less money in the long run by releasing stuff no one demanded more of because all these figures are already shelf-warming in the stores.

Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you employ fully grown functional adults who understand that stores won't buy more toys if their shelves are littered with the same stuff that no one is buying!

Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.

Lucky Logician wrote:Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.

Yeah, I can basically count on finding either Hot Rod, Triggerhappy, or Twinferno just about everywhere around here. All thanks to wave 3 and wave 6 being the only things stocked around here.

Emerje

Just what we need more shelf warmers, revised wave 2 is still clogging shelves along with twinferno and now wer're getting more twinfernos & other figures no one cares about. Is there no one with a brain over there at hasbro anymore? Well i hope that these sell just as bad as the last revised wave so maybe hasbro will finally get a clue.

Man it's almost as if, and this is crazy but hear me out, Hasbro is doing the same thing they always do by releasing a wave of new figures and then a revision case that mixes some older figures back in or adjusts the ratio. But due to all the stores ordering an abundance for the holidays last year that happened to be the wave 2 revision, which turned out to be more than would move at an effective rate (especially during the slow part of the year), when they did wind up ordering more it was at the time when Hasbro was shipping out revision cases, not Hasbro deliberately shorting them. NOVEL.

Emerje wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.

Yeah, I can basically count on finding either Hot Rod, Triggerhappy, or Twinferno just about everywhere around here. All thanks to wave 3 and wave 6 being the only things stocked around here.

Emerje

This, this is the problem, if these revisions weren't a thing, we'd all likely be swimming in misfire's twintwist's, slugslinger's and potp figures at this point, instead of shelfwarming garbage like hotrod and twinferno...