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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:52 am
by Gauntlet101010
I think the wings are better. No matter who the TF is, I really dislike it when the alt. mode is practically eradicated from the bot mode. I mean if it can actually work, then it's fine, but the figure shouldn't look like it transforms magically.

But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:58 am
by Evil Eye
Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:29 am
by Gauntlet101010
Black Hat wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

I just think it was badly sculpted there. I get the effect they were going for, but the effect was weird.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:38 am
by -Kanrabat-
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:But, really? That wasn't the biggest problem area and I think we all know it.

The biggest "problem area" was Frank and chums crying about people liking something they didn't.

I just think it was badly sculpted there. I get the effect they were going for, but the effect was weird.


As a lone figure, it was absolutely fantastic. But as Windblade, it didn't work.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:29 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
I think this looks better, but they only really halfway fixed the look. I would have preferred some more body work done and kept the wings as is, they were neat, even if i do prefer this winged look

Flame Toys Reveal Updated Windblade Design

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:17 am
by ZeroWolf
Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron users, AcademyofDrX, -WonkoTheSane- and Rodimus Knight have let us knkw that Flame Toys have taken to Twitter to show off the updated Windblade design for their Furai model kit range.

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Unlike the previous design, this one retains her wings as as seen on all her over appearances, since she first debuted.

What do you think of this update? Will you be getting her to add to your Transformers model collection? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:20 am
by -Kanrabat-
Wait. The previous post was not an official news? That took a while.

Well, it's vacation season after all.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:55 am
by Quantum Surge
Glad she had her wings so she can still have that Transformer heritage to her, especially since she looked naked without them.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 am
by Rodimus Knight
I'm wondering if the larger wings are the only change or if they did additional ones.
Since Cyberverse had her able to near fully retract her wings, I think it would be cool if they had both sets they designed with this model included.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:23 am
by Stormshot_Prime
Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:29 am
by Evil Eye
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:35 am
by Stormshot_Prime
Black Hat wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.


My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should not be a Transformers selling point.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 am
by Evil Eye
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Black Hat wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.


My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Kids are unlikely to be buying expensive collector's grade model kits. "Think of the children" is not a valid argument.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should (not?) be a Transformers selling point.

Why not? In kids' cartoons I'd agree, but for figures or media aimed at older fans, there is literally nothing wrong with a little bit of flirtiness here and there.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:59 pm
by AcademyofDrX
Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm
by -Kanrabat-
AcademyofDrX wrote:Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.


Amen.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:07 pm
by Burn
Hey Black Hat, just a reminder in case you've missed it, you're being an arsehole again.

Stop it.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:04 am
by Emerje
Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ;) ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).
(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.


Emerje

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:37 am
by Fires_Of_Inferno
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Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:45 am
by -Kanrabat-
Emerje wrote:Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one,

Emerje


That was my main issue with the OG design. As if a Kotobukiya frame arms girl snuck her way into the Flame Toys model kit line.

The new design look much more like a real Transformers. However, I'll wait for the actual prototype to truly judge. The guys have some crazy designs going for them so if that Windblade end up looking "too normal", it will be disappointing.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:44 am
by Quantum Surge
Emerje wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ;) ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).
(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.


Emerje

Lol, nice (shameless?) plug.

On topic with this, I do agree with your comments regarding the initial design of Flame Toys Windblade not feeling quite Transformery; granted, the proportions of some designs don't make them feel quite right either, but they at least had some parts that would be recognizable from their vehicle mode. The lack of wings almost felt like accessories that were missing out of the box. Best example is if I ever got an Earthrise Starscream but he's missing one of the wings.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:11 am
by -Kanrabat-
Not quoting but a wingless Starscream would look incomplete and weird as Hell.

New Images of Flame Toys Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Saber and Pricing, Release Date for Victory Leo

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 am
by ZeroWolf
Greetings Seibertronians! Following the last batch of pictures that revealed, for the first time in colour, the combination of Flame Toys Kuro Kara Kuri Star Saber and Victory Leo, Flame Toys have taken to their social media account to unleash more images of this stunning combination, Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Saber!

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That's not all, sticking with their twitter account, Flane Toys announced a price and release date for Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Leo! Letting fans know when they can create Victory Saber for themselves!

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Flame Toys wrote:The pre-order of [Kuro Kara Kuri] Victory Leo start from today !!!

***Product information***

Price : US$400
Estimate Delivery : April, 2021
Size : ~16cm height, 23cm long

- It can combine with Star Saber to become Victory Saber !
- It is fully articulated figure with over 120 articulated positions !
- Super-poseable with diecast parts for solidity and heaviness!
- LED lighting effect on eyes and mouth !

※Star Saber is not included


Both Star Saber and Victory Leo in the Kuro Kara Kuri line are non-transforming premium figures.

What do you think of these high end, non-transforming action figures? Will you be preordering? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:01 pm
by madhatter090
Nice looking Gundam figures.

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:31 pm
by -Kanrabat-
madhatter090 wrote:Nice looking Gundam figures.


My thought exactly.
Still, the original G1 design is pretty "gundamish" so it get a pass.

Those figures are damn epic! And the price too...

Re: Flame Toys Figures and Model Kits Thread

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:18 pm
by ThunderThruster
You say Gundam, but Victory Saber is basically homaging Gaogaigar
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