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Va'al wrote:My dude, Paramount had a deal directly with a number of Chinese companies and properties to up the marketing of AoE and The Last Knight. Guess what: they didn't keep up their side of the deal, and got sued. Then lost the deal.

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The last two movies were intentionally aimed at the Chinese movie market. This is not new news.

And exactly how do you "aim" at the chinese market?

We got a guy here who believes that Asians are obsessed with watching Americans being themselves.

Maybe more money was dumped into promoting. And marketing the movie in China. But I dont think and Hollywood CEOs sat down with Michael Bay and told him load the movie full of American stereotypes on purpose because Chinese people love it. Thats just Michael Bay being Michael Bay. People are trying to make more out of it.

Rated X wrote:

Va'al wrote:My dude, Paramount had a deal directly with a number of Chinese companies and properties to up the marketing of AoE and The Last Knight. Guess what: they didn't keep up their side of the deal, and got sued. Then lost the deal.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ght/36864/

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... hua/39183/

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... eal/39989/


The last two movies were intentionally aimed at the Chinese movie market. This is not new news.

And exactly how do you "aim" at the chinese market?

We got a guy here who believes that Asians are obsessed with watching Americans being themselves.

Maybe more money was dumped into promoting. And marketing the movie in China. But I dont think and Hollywood CEOs sat down with Michael Bay and told him load the movie full of American stereotypes on purpose because Chinese people love it. Thats just Michael Bay being Michael Bay. People are trying to make more out of it.

And Michael Bay and his writers (though less so than him) think that audiences want to see what Caelus has been telling you for the good part of the past day or so. Domestic audiences did not, Anglophone audiences in general did not. They pitched the movie elsewhere - i.e. China.

It's ...not that hard to grasp.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:A lot of people are just tired of these movies catering so strongly towards psychos, perverts, bigots, and dimwits.

"A response D-Max liked"

the first part of this post pisses me off. Come on Sabr.

Carnivius had a good post and some good words. I am a movie fan too, it is my favorite. I acknowledge that TLK didn't feel that good and it was not my favorite, but I still like the movies, the designs, and pretty much everything about them. They are a whole different kind of fun, a type of fun I enjoy.

I too enjoy the movies. Are they good movies? No. They are bad movies. But I have a fun time watching them and I do like their designs and toys. As bad as it is, even ROTF I have a good time with. I want us to get something more though, after four films, it's getting tired. It's time to bring in a new director, shake things up a bit and give us something new for the story instead of always being "Ancient thing that tied earth and Cybertron together and rewrite all it's history is now present and needs to be stopped by finding a different item first which will lead you to the main item." That's one thing I liked in AOE. The story was all about a present day stuff and there was no quest to find something else.


And yes, I said four. The Last Knight does not count to me after the first 30 minutes or so.

Coming at us via Deadline, and from a while back admittedly - blame Toy Fair 2018 coverage, that's what I'm doing - we have the news that producer Ian Bryce, who worked on all of the five live-action Transformers movies, has left Paramount for streaming company Netflix.

You can read more about the move and the projects involved directly at the source, or look at the relevant snippet right below! With the alleged movie reboot still wafting in the air, having a complete overhaul of producing and creative team may not be entirely unfeasible, and this seems to be another point for that camp. Check it out, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub.

In a move that signals the growing feature film ambitions of Netflix, the streaming service has made a multi-year first look deal with Ian Bryce, the producer of big scale films that include Saving Private Ryan, Almost Famous, War Machine, and the Transformers franchise. Bryce and his Ian Bryce Productions will move from Paramount Pictures. The producer first worked with Netflix on the David Michod-directed Brad Pitt-starrer War Machine, and the plan is to build on that relationship and have Bryce be a core supplier. On the film side, this follows a recent deal with War for the Planet of the Apes and the next Batman director Matt Reeves and his 6th & Idaho banner. It also follows the groundbreaking TV deal Netflix made with Ryan Murphy.

Who cares, Producers do nothing but **** films up. They put in their two cents when it isn't need.

Galactic Prime wrote:Who cares, Producers do nothing but **** films up. They put in their two cents when it isn't need.

Producers are needed in film making regardless of what one thinks, surprise surprise they do serve an important role in the creation of a film.

Deadput wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:Who cares, Producers do nothing but **** films up. They put in their two cents when it isn't need.

Producers are needed in film making regardless of what one thinks, surprise surprise they do serve an important role in the creation of a film.

Yes, they fund the movie, they should simply pony up the cash and trust they hired the right people to write and direct and then kindly they should all STFU.