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The other thing Hasbro is really anal retentive about is packaging, and they've been that for years, even back in G1 (Look what happened to the Seacons - the Hasbro giftset was short a member because they weren't going to adjust the standardized box size for one group). We might be having a case of that here, where Jazz is packaged and sold as a Deluxe because they're not adding a smaller package size and price point to the mix for just one guy. But that doesn't make it not a ripoff. There are three things they could have done to make it better: Charge less despite the same package size (and marvel that their heads didn't explode from it), add some human character figures or one of the Arcee trio or something to add value (which has precedent), or delay Jazz until Skids and Mudflap were also ready because then with three smaller guys they'd be able to justify adding another price-point and box size.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!

They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.

Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.

Edit: I may have mentioned this before, but this does make me wonder how the SS VW Bumblebee is going to work, because it looks like he’s shorter than even Jazz in the footage we’ve seen so far.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!

They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.

Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.

Jazz and Sideswipe were never onscreen together.

Sabrblade wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!

They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.

Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.

Jazz and Sideswipe were never onscreen together.

Well yeah, but the height guides put them both at 15 feet, so their figures (at least in robot mode) should be the same size.

Found this and Lockdown today in Springfield, VA, although I did not pick up the latter.

I really like Jazz. He's small, but he's got the heft of a full-size Deluxe. I found that poseability was good overall for the size, and the deco is certainly nicer than the other Deluxes in this series so far.

MrBlack wrote:Found this and Lockdown today in Springfield, VA, although I did not pick up the latter.

I really like Jazz. He's small, but he's got the heft of a full-size Deluxe. I found that poseability was good overall for the size, and the deco is certainly nicer than the other Deluxes in this series so far.

Which store did you find those at?

Well if they were really concerned about keeping all figures 'in scale', then most of the figures from all their lines wouldn't exist. A to-scale Trypticon or Metroplex, for example, should be at least the size of a real-life semi truck. And don't even get me started on Broadside...

Still, poor movie Jazz just can't seem to catch a break with his figures can he? Maybe if they made a Masterpiece version...

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Here are some pics of him in robot mode where he is at least between legends and deluxe class (rather than just being as tall as a legends figure).

So, like an old Basic/Scout class figure.

No, I dont know why this myth persists but the basic/scout size class has been relatively consistent since inception.

That Jazz still have way more paint than usual. That may be where the "compensation" come from. However, I would have loved to see an added action feature:

Mod Jazz so he can separate in two from the waist. On both ends of the halves, standard 5mm ports can then pop out. The SS Megs can hold both Jazz halves by reproducing that iconic scene. Despite being the ROTF version of Megs.

Jazz looks nice!

About the size things,I've always assumed the plastic that the figures like Bumblebee or Jazz went to the leader class toys like Blackout or Grimlock.

The latest wave of Studio Series deluxes is slowly appearing in the US. While a few have said to have seen them, Cprime18 is the first to contact us with photographic evidence. These two were found at a Target in San Antonio Texas. This wave is particularly infamous for the size discrepency between the two toys with Lockdown being the same height as a Generations deluxe and Jazz being far smaller than that. For more size comparisons, feel free to check out our pictorial review of Jazz to see if this is a toy you find worth the money.

If you already have these toys, please let us know your thoughts on them and if you find them, be sure to let the community know through your local sightings threads or the sightings section.

Jazz is ridiculously small, but he does look good. The paint is especially nice.

Lockdown looks great but I just can't get behind a Lockdown figure that isn't absurdly tall in robot mode. Good looking figure though, not gonna deny.

Via regular source of news Loopaza Megastore on Facebook, we have some new listings for Takara Tomy Transformers figures due out in September to December, including the Studio Series line, the Movie Masterpiece one and some Bumblebee Movie figures thrown into the mix, as we knew already from previous news coverage. Some of the names and numbers showing up below are recognisable, but the rest are very much up to speculation and rumour-mongering. So join the discussion and let us know what you think!

Takaratomy Transformers

We've received new details of the coming up Takaratomy Transformers line-up. The most interesting is the coming of MPM-6 & MPM-7, both still named "unknown character" on the listing but fans should noticed that MPM-6 is Ironhide. So what is actually MPM-7? Rumor from the US that will possible be Jazz but Nothing in this point just yet.

There are also new code MV6 on the list will two characters, one is Optimus Prime and one is Bumblebee. looks like they will be the toys figures from the New Bumblebee Movie! and both will scheduled to release in October is Japanese side.

There are also some others Transformers characters in number 13 - 18, they should be the Studio Series, 13 & 17 are unknown characters, 14 is Ratchet ( DOTM ver.?), 15 is Ironhide, 16 is Bumblebee (2007 ver.?), 18 is Starscream (ROTF ver. ?)

#takaratomy #transformers

Yay, lots of new Studio figures look forward to even if we are getting more into repaint territory.

We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well

ZeroWolf wrote:We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well

I expect RotF Starscream to come with the same backdrop pic as Megatron and Prime have done already but that kinda makes sense since they were all involved in that forest battle and I'm still gonna buy that Screamer anyways cos I love the mold and want that toy with the tattoos I like a lot too and the buzzsaw.

That's an awful lot of stuff coming out all at once in October for Japanese fans. Glad Hasbro spreads things out a little more.

Emerje

A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.

No doubt its Takara's numbering, since Hasbro's 13 is Megatron, and Takara has already released him as 11.

So that mystery 13 is something else.

And seeing 14 as another Ratchet, and 18 another starscream, it seems Takara is doing its own thing now which we may not get in Hasbro's line at all or if we do it will have a very different number.

Greetings All,

While I am not collecting these toys, I am quite fascinated by the numbering system. I was just wondering however...

On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream? (which I imagine would get its own number, even if it is a straight up repaint) or is this just an error on unicron.com ?

o.supreme wrote:On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream?

Yeah, I wrote an article about it:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... bel/41092/

^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)

As for

their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.

o.supreme wrote:^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)

As for

their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.

Hasbro and Takara Tomy are releasing the same exact figures now. We have heard no news on the contrary since the unification!

So is getting Thundercracker?

o.supreme wrote:So is getting Thundercracker?

Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!