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Hey. I'm not sure a color scheme can count as an "official" crossover. I think that skirts the legal department quite effectively.

gothsaurus wrote:Hey. I'm not sure a color scheme can count as an "official" crossover. I think that skirts the legal department quite effectively.

What is that supposed to homage?

Seibertron wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Hey. I'm not sure a color scheme can count as an "official" crossover. I think that skirts the legal department quite effectively.

What is that supposed to homage?

SG Drift is supposed to be colored like (and act like) Marvel's Deadpool character.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Hey. I'm not sure a color scheme can count as an "official" crossover. I think that skirts the legal department quite effectively.

What is that supposed to homage?

SG Drift is supposed to be colored like (and act like) Marvel's Deadpool character.

Ah. Thanks.

Instead of SG he should have simply been "Head and Shoulders" Gigatron. Look if we are lucky Headrobots will do something about that 33lb. head and like Blood improve those blades.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Instead of SG he should have simply been "Head and Shoulders" Gigatron. Look if we are lucky Headrobots will do something about that 33lb. head and like Blood improve those blades.

He's not SG. He's Classics.

_Anshin_ wrote:

Rated X wrote:
Like I said before, Im all for the fight against censorship. But I dont deal with congress. It was congress who created the bill in the first place so e-mailing most of them is like preaching to the choir. Especially my congressman who is republican and does not want to hear from democrats like me.

I don’t fear SOPA because ALL politicians use Facebook and Twitter who don’t support this bill. Also E-Bay and Youtube is too big to battle on capital hill. It’s the cyber equivelint to a mom and pop store trying to take on Wal-Mart. Not gonna happen.

But isnt it ironic how so many people that bashed KOtoys on behalf of Hasbro are now rallying against an "anti-piracy" bill ???

Two different things totally, so no it is not ironic to me.

As for the bill, you may want to sit down and read the SOPA and PIPA bill a bit more. It isn't so much mom and pop vs walmart, but the Movie Industry and RIAA vs Seibertron.

What will end up happening is the quiet disappearance of sites that may be the next Youtube (Vimeo for example). This bill also has an affect on sites outside of the United States. Imagine Bay getting a hair in the wrong place and filing a petition against KOtoys for having an image of Bumblebee that looks similar to the movie version. That site could be taken down without due process. The time and money it takes to bring the site back up and the loss in revenue could mean death for that site all because of a single image that may or may not have been from his movie.

If this Bill had gone into effect a few years ago, we wouldn't have a YouTube at all. It would have been shut down because of Viacom.

Not fearing it because you are relying on people that are voting on the same technology that they use and don't understand is the equivalent of trusting your best friend to drink and drive because he likes his car and knows to stop at red lights.

While I don’t know the specifics of SOPA, I am aware of what it means. It is basically censorship in the greatest form of extremism. It’s all about the film and music industry wanting to stand up against file sharing and streamlining because they simply aren’t making the profits they used to. So they lobbied to politicians who deviated from the original vision and wrote a piece of legislation from a much broader spectrum in an effort to be politically correct. To them it sounds great on paper, but theoretically is impossible to enforce.

But if this piece of legislation gets passed, trust me those creeps at Hasbro will be the first ones to try to enforce it. People might not agree with me standing up for KOToys or comparing their “KO piracy” to the “online piracy” SOPA is trying to regulate. But it’s the same ideology that drives both forces. It’s about big corporations seeing dwindling profits in today’s dragging economy and making a statement by crying to law makers. It’s a last ditch effort to try and recoup lost profits. They have to pay for those Bentleys and bottles of Dom Pirignon they bought last year before their quarterly profit reports came in. I believe the only way a corporation can maintain a large profit margin is by staying innovative with today’s technology and the people that use it. If something doesn’t net the profit it used to bring in, come up with something better. People are not going go back to the 1990’s mentality and start buying CD’s and DVD’s again. The media companies need to stop living in the past. And the same goes for Hasbro. It’s time to stop worrying about who uses the Starscream mold that dates back to 2006. Get a new mold and move on. Corporations are not going to win by being a bunch of snitches and cry babies.

Rated X wrote:While I don’t know the specifics of SOPA, I am aware of what it means. It is basically censorship in the greatest form of extremism. It’s all about the film and music industry wanting to stand up against file sharing and streamlining because they simply aren’t making the profits they used to. So they lobbied to politicians who deviated from the original vision and wrote a piece of legislation from a much broader spectrum in an effort to be politically correct. To them it sounds great on paper, but theoretically is impossible to enforce.

While that's part of it, the part that scares me is this: under SOPA, if you were to post a video of you singing to a song on Youtube, and then post that video here on Seibertron.com's open forums, and if someone reported it, my site gets removed by my host without any question and without any justice. I can face stiff fines and jail time for something you guys posted on my site. The worst part yet is that the initial complaint about the copyright violation doesn't even have to come from the owner of the intellectual property. ANYONE could make a complaint. Seibertron.com's server host would have to comply by blocking the domain within 7 days or else they could also be held liable. It's a fucked up law that has NO place in our country.

Rated X wrote:But if this piece of legislation gets passed, trust me those creeps at Hasbro will be the first ones to try to enforce it. People might not agree with me standing up for KOToys or comparing their “KO piracy” to the “online piracy” SOPA is trying to regulate. But it’s the same ideology that drives both forces. It’s about big corporations seeing dwindling profits in today’s dragging economy and making a statement by crying to law makers. It’s a last ditch effort to try and recoup lost profits. They have to pay for those Bentleys and bottles of Dom Pirignon they bought last year before their quarterly profit reports came in. I believe the only way a corporation can maintain a large profit margin is by staying innovative with today’s technology and the people that use it. If something doesn’t net the profit it used to bring in, come up with something better. People are not going go back to the 1990’s mentality and start buying CD’s and DVD’s again. The media companies need to stop living in the past. And the same goes for Hasbro. It’s time to stop worrying about who uses the Starscream mold that dates back to 2006. Get a new mold and move on. Corporations are not going to win by being a bunch of snitches and cry babies.

It's unfortunate to read what you wrote. Hasbro should have the right to protect their intellectual property. They should be worried about who is reproducing their old products. But I'm not here to argue that. Many of you have made it clear that you enjoy 3rd party products and I'm not going to waste my time debating the ethics or legalities of those products. I think it's very unfortunate that any of you think that any company has a right to make Transformers toys other than Hasbro, Takara Tomy, or companies that they license.

El Duque wrote:I really want to like this guy but I'm having a hard time. I would have preferred the Universe Silverbolt mode, I think it shares a lot of design similarities to Overlord in robot mode and it's alt mode is a pretty close match to Overlord's jet component.

This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

El Duque wrote:I really want to like this guy but I'm having a hard time. I would have preferred the Universe Silverbolt mode, I think it shares a lot of design similarities to Overlord in robot mode and it's alt mode is a pretty close match to Overlord's jet component.

This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

This custom figure is AWESOME. Good job!

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

El Duque wrote:I really want to like this guy but I'm having a hard time. I would have preferred the Universe Silverbolt mode, I think it shares a lot of design similarities to Overlord in robot mode and it's alt mode is a pretty close match to Overlord's jet component.

This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

Oh. My. Word. That is beautiful! Simply Beautiful1 Almost brings a tear to my eye.

Not only did you go the extra mile of remolding the torso, but you also went and made the altmode split into to separate vehicles and STILL made it work! Somebody better front-page this! You, sir, deserve a medal!

Though, I'd kinda like to see what it'd look like without the torso modified, since Fun Pub would have likely kept that unaltered, but that's just me.

How'd you make the two halves re-attachable?

Sabrblade wrote:Not only did you go the extra mile of remolding the torso, but you also went and made the altmode split into to separate vehicles and STILL made it work! Somebody better front-page this! You, sir, deserve a medal!

Though, I'd kinda like to see what it'd look like without the torso modified, since Fun Pub would have likely kept that unaltered, but that's just me.

How'd you make the two halves re-attachable?

No remolding was done. Used a E-Barricade foot for one side and a flat piece of plastic from the interior of the toy to use as a base for the guns. Engine pieces courtesy of a junker Rev and some space toy that I had parted out some years ago. Decepticon badge comes from a junked E-Sledge.

Jet halves use the clip that is present naturally and I ground down the posts for the screw on one end of the hinge to create a second clip. The post to attach the front end to the arm is just the sound and light button turned upside down internally so a large piece hangs from the bottom. Drilled a compatible hole in the arm to accomodate.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not only did you go the extra mile of remolding the torso, but you also went and made the altmode split into to separate vehicles and STILL made it work! Somebody better front-page this! You, sir, deserve a medal!

Though, I'd kinda like to see what it'd look like without the torso modified, since Fun Pub would have likely kept that unaltered, but that's just me.

How'd you make the two halves re-attachable?

No remolding was done. Used a E-Barricade foot for one side and a flat piece of plastic from the interior of the toy to use as a base for the guns. Engine pieces courtesy of a junker Rev and some space toy that I had parted out some years ago. Decepticon badge comes from a junked E-Sledge.

Jet halves use the clip that is present naturally and I ground down the posts for the screw on one end of the hinge to create a second clip. The post to attach the front end to the arm is just the sound and light button turned upside down internally so a large piece hangs from the bottom. Drilled a compatible hole in the arm to accomodate.

Ah, okay. Just read "remolding" as "modifying" instead.

Still brilliant, nonetheless.

This is why they should have used this mold.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Instead of SG he should have simply been "Head and Shoulders" Gigatron. Look if we are lucky Headrobots will do something about that 33lb. head and like Blood improve those blades.

He's not SG. He's Classics.

Oops, sorry thanks for the correction!

Seibertron wrote:

Rated X wrote:While I don’t know the specifics of SOPA, I am aware of what it means. It is basically censorship in the greatest form of extremism. It’s all about the film and music industry wanting to stand up against file sharing and streamlining because they simply aren’t making the profits they used to. So they lobbied to politicians who deviated from the original vision and wrote a piece of legislation from a much broader spectrum in an effort to be politically correct. To them it sounds great on paper, but theoretically is impossible to enforce.

While that's part of it, the part that scares me is this: under SOPA, if you were to post a video of you singing to a song on Youtube, and then post that video here on Seibertron.com's open forums, and if someone reported it, my site gets removed by my host without any question and without any justice. I can face stiff fines and jail time for something you guys posted on my site. The worst part yet is that the initial complaint about the copyright violation doesn't even have to come from the owner of the intellectual property. ANYONE could make a complaint. Seibertron.com's server host would have to comply by blocking the domain within 7 days or else they could also be held liable. It's a **** up law that has NO place in our country.

Rated X wrote:But if this piece of legislation gets passed, trust me those creeps at Hasbro will be the first ones to try to enforce it. People might not agree with me standing up for KOToys or comparing their “KO piracy” to the “online piracy” SOPA is trying to regulate. But it’s the same ideology that drives both forces. It’s about big corporations seeing dwindling profits in today’s dragging economy and making a statement by crying to law makers. It’s a last ditch effort to try and recoup lost profits. They have to pay for those Bentleys and bottles of Dom Pirignon they bought last year before their quarterly profit reports came in. I believe the only way a corporation can maintain a large profit margin is by staying innovative with today’s technology and the people that use it. If something doesn’t net the profit it used to bring in, come up with something better. People are not going go back to the 1990’s mentality and start buying CD’s and DVD’s again. The media companies need to stop living in the past. And the same goes for Hasbro. It’s time to stop worrying about who uses the Starscream mold that dates back to 2006. Get a new mold and move on. Corporations are not going to win by being a bunch of snitches and cry babies.

It's unfortunate to read what you wrote. Hasbro should have the right to protect their intellectual property. They should be worried about who is reproducing their old products. But I'm not here to argue that. Many of you have made it clear that you enjoy 3rd party products and I'm not going to waste my time debating the ethics or legalities of those products. I think it's very unfortunate that any of you think that any company has a right to make Transformers toys other than Hasbro, Takara Tomy, or companies that they license.

Well you gotta remember both before and after Transformers, Hasbro is still a toy company. They have kids to please. But with that being said, we are not kids, we are hobbyists. So we need an upgrade. I’m not mad at Hasbro for not making my cherished Rainmakers set. They have to keep up with Mr. Potato Heads, Nerf, and whatever else they make. They can’t devote all their capital to the TF franchise and it’s many outlets. But if they cant or won’t do it, then somebody else should. Hasbro is just a business. Many of the original G1 artists and designers have since left Hasbro. Some may even be dead. So many copyrights have been sold over and over again like stocks. Hasbro cant even use some of the names they once owned like “Octane” or “Straxus”. So if Hasbro doesn’t own these names who does ? Should he have the right to keep them locked in his closet ? Nope, not in my opinion. And Hasbro shouldn’t either. Use em or lose em is my motto. There is a big difference between the actual creator of a character and someone who just bought the rights to own it years later. The respect value just drops from 10 to 0. Michael Jackson’s family owns the Beatles music on paper. Go ask hardcore Beatles fans and see how many of them respect that ownership.

Just food for thought my friend.

I keep telling, but you never listen:

The creating team do not hold the copyright at all! By law, the copyright of anything they create default to the main company! Hasbro owns all the TF designs, not the creators

The names however, Hasbro "rents" from the US Trademark Office for a certain amount of time, and sometimes that's only possible when certain conditions are met.

OK, back to Gigatron...

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

El Duque wrote:I really want to like this guy but I'm having a hard time. I would have preferred the Universe Silverbolt mode, I think it shares a lot of design similarities to Overlord in robot mode and it's alt mode is a pretty close match to Overlord's jet component.

This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

That was me.
Also, that is amazing, while tank treads would make his legs a little more beefier this is still damn bad-ass!

It just dawned on me how great it would be to have a port to accept the tiny tank from Energon Megatron. You could have your jet mode, and a tiny nod to the tank mode.

AutobotCliffjumper wrote:

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

El Duque wrote:I really want to like this guy but I'm having a hard time. I would have preferred the Universe Silverbolt mode, I think it shares a lot of design similarities to Overlord in robot mode and it's alt mode is a pretty close match to Overlord's jet component.

This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

This custom figure is AWESOME. Good job!

WOWWW,Awesome job Dude,This looks amazing. I like how the tank mode kinda looks like TF Animated's cancelled season 4 maruader megatron's tank mode.

Can someone,please ask a 3rd party company to mass produce this custom,so we can all enjoy,the best upgraded gigatron toy ever.

While i'm doing a reply in this thread. I just want to comment on the newer pics of TFCC Gigatron's head sculpt. I don't like the over-sized robot head. the over sized TFCC Gigatron robot head makes the toy now look like A SD-SUPER DEFORMED gundam toy with those over sized robot heads. the TFCC Gigatron over-sized robot head looks like a $27 usa ultra sized or leader sized robot head put on a TF voyager sized robot toy body.

It just dawned on me how great it would be to have a port to accept the tiny tank from Energon Megatron. You could have your jet mode, and a tiny nod to the tank mode.

The more I look at the Botcon Gigatron, the more I don't like it. His head looks oversized and too cartoonish

i liked the mold, as a movie toy. trying to pass this mold off as a classics just does not fly for me. it does not work. for once i am glad i dont want this years set.

Emperor Galvatron wrote: This is just a quick custom I worked up over the last week since I found out I wouldn't be able to attend.


I used the base robot from Silverbolt and grabbed some kibble from other bots and toys. Engine pieces do not transform as there is no way I could figure out how to attach and not overwhelm the chest. Threw in silver for the arms to break up the white and make paint repairs easier. Haven't painted the gun just yet, but will soon. Also gave him a drybrush treatment.

Cheating on the tank mode a little (classifying it as a hover tank If you don't like it... it's my fiction, deal.) Kept the jet as a flat black to simulate stealth coloring.

Edit: BTW thanks for the suggestion to whoever put it in my head about separating the jet. I'm sorry I don't remember who you are.

Now imagine this with a real budget. Sigh.

OK so this may be a Necrobump, but god damn, what a cool idea. I looked at Darkwing as a base for Overlord before, but couldn't figure out how to make up the tank part. Wonder how good this would look like with botcon Gigatron's head.