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26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Diem » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:35 pm

Marlboro Man wrote:Poster's note: Yes, I am aware I spell 'honorable' as 'honourable.' I also light as lite and night as nite. bear with me please. Force of habit from high school, had to annoy English teacher WITHOUT getting sent to principal's office.
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Speaking as an English teacher (as in "teaches English and is from England") honourable should have a "u" in it. Can't agree on the others though (but I guess that's the point...).

I can't believe I forgot Movie Megatron. I mean I'm glad I did, but I still should've included him.

To Sabrblade and Hip-hoptimus Prime: I do intend to put the finished list, [img]sans[/img] replies somewhere online, mainly in case the boards here collapse again. Only one more entry to go, so it should be up (wherever it's going to be) soon.

As for linking in the first post to the respective entries I'm not sure I'm tech-savvy enough to do that. I genuinely don't know how to do it. When I get back from work I'll look into how to do it.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby First-Aid » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:35 pm

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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Marlboro Man » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:42 pm

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Speaking as an English teacher (as in "teaches English and is from England") honourable should have a "u" in it. Can't agree on the others though (but I guess that's the point...).

I knew honourable should have a 'U' in it! Take that Ms. Dubesky! Make my day and tell me that color should be spelled colour as well! Ahhh, I seriously am respecting more and more my friends across the pond :CON:
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Iron Prime » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:56 am

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First-Aid wrote: There is a depressing part though: I'm old enough to understand virtually every little nuance and joke and quote you throw out... :sad:


I have a very similar issue. But the amusement from the quips and references outweighs the depression. :grin:
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby CircuitBreaker » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:41 pm

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Heck yeah futureistic jets are cool. I can't believe we are on page 12 since I left on page 11 halfway through.

EDIT: Wait, the red circles are there! Check the attatchment 'cause I see it. :-?
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Amelie » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:24 am

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Marlboro Man wrote:Make my day and tell me that color should be spelled colour as well!


Here in the UK - it is. ;)

I've been following this thread for a while now and it's by far one of the most enjoyable reads on the site right now - well done, Diem!
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby vectorA3 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:37 am

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Jetfire got the star treatment in that last one. I love it!!!!! I hope he gets HoF soon!!!!!
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Diem » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:47 am

NOTE BIEN: On the advice of and with the help of Sabrblade (thank you) I have put direct links to each of the entries as well as the Honourable Mentions in the first post of this thread. For anyone who is newly reading the thread or who wants to re-read particular entries I hope this helps!
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:28 am

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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:43 pm

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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Darth Bombshell » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:29 pm

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If I'm right, this was released at the same time as the Beast Wars mini figures, which were made canon thanks to the Sourcebook.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby brawl569 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:02 pm

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isnt classics jetfire spose to be a modified f14 tomcat? and not a cybertronian jet? and youve forgot energon jetfire i think
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Valandar » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:02 pm

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Classics Jetfire is not an F-14. It has some design cues, but is not an actual aircraft. HOWEVER, it looks more like something terrestrial in the mid to near future than anything "Cybertronian" to me.

On the OTHER hand, the Veritech/Valkyrie/G1 Jetfire figure, and their original Macross animated incarnations, were pretty much based on the F-14 frame, and look far more like a real F-14 than nearly any other TF there is, so I wouldn't count it as a "Cybertronian" mode either - though its extra armor and pods again make it resemble something from the mid to near future, as well.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Diem » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:17 pm

The design used in the cartoon and the comic is definitely Cybertronian.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Valandar » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:56 pm

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Diem wrote:The design used in the cartoon and the comic is definitely Cybertronian.


True, but the toy isn't so much. :D
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Diem » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:33 am

So here we go, the final entry. This list has been a lot of fun to write and sometimes a lot of hard work too. But it's been great fun. I've received a lot of support and a lot of friendly criticism and thankfully no strong opposition. It's been a good ride.

I don't know if people will agree with entry number 1 but to me it's a total no-brainer. If I were a transforming robot I know what my first choice for an Alt mode would be. When it comes to speed, sexiness, class...there's only one choice.

If there's any music that makes you think of scorching rubber and roads blurring by, now is the right time to put it on.

#1: Lamborghinis

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Lamborghinis. Those sexy lines, those hexagonal windshields, those saucy spoilers. Those little black triangular things on the sides. Gotta love them.

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Pretty much all of Transformers can be traced back to good ol' Bob Budiansky. Sure the Japanese had been making transforming robot toys for decades and Hasbro were the ones who saw that those robot toys were worth their weight in gold but it was Uncle Bob who named the characters and breathed life into them. He gave them an origin (I personally prefer Budiansky's evolutionary theory to Sunbow's creationism and Furman's fantasy light-god bollocks) and an introduction that would be retold in a million ways.

One of the upshots of Bob's total responsibility over the franchise's early years is that he could do whatever he wanted, few questions asked. If he wanted to give everyone English-based names but give the good guy leader a Latin name and the bad leader a Greek one no-one minded. If he wanted to invent a laser that is a musket that shoots acid it was all good. And if he felt that two characters with the same Alt mode should be brothers that's all good. He never even needed to explain what being brothers means for Cybertronians.

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"Oh brother, where art th...oh, there you are."

Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were the bad boys of the Autobot cause. While Sideswipe was just a typical jock with a strong fighting spirit (BURNING JUSTICE optional) Sunstreaker was a vainglorious sociopath. This varied from the cartoon where he was just a little concerned about his own paintjob to the UK comics where he was blithely unconcerned about leading humans into danger to later comics and Mosaics where he's a raging ball of hate.

One thing that's definitely clear about this duo is that in the cartoon Prime clearly had a lot of faith in these guys. When Trailbreaker was ambushed by Seekers Prime sent these two as a task force to escort him and the token humans back to base.

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The Sunstreaker mold has sadly been lost to the ages which is a shame as it's a good 'un by 1984 standards. Although I prefer the Countach minus the big rear engine this is a very sexy car and his robot mode has modest arm articulation and not entirely tragic proportions. He has neat shooty fist missiles too!

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Spike chose a Volkswagen over this.

Sideswipe has the cleaner, sexier car mode. Plus his robot mode isn't too bad despite the massive chest. Thankfully this guy isn't too hard to get nowadays thanks to his bookbox release. Ehobby thinks that Sideswipe is actually lots of other previously unseen G1 characters if he changes his colours.

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"WOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOO!"

Although Sunstreaker never got officially repainted to the best of my knowledge Sideswipe kept getting re-used. The first usage used the Lamborghini-with-sirens mold from Diaclone as a firefighting Lamborghini (I have never wanted to be a firefighter so much). Red Alert oddly wasn't Sidey and Sunny's long lost brother despite the mold sharage although I'm sure fanfic writers could string a good yarn out of this one. Red Alert was an-insecure-to-the-point-of-paranoia security officer. Later on the role of security officer was taken by the senile and irrelevant Kup. No wonder Cybertron got nabbed by the 'Cons.

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“Let's see...Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, Red Alert, Breakdown, Punch...where's Freewheeler?”

As part of the Universe line a mold was released intended for both Sunstreaker and Sideswipe. Rather than being a straight repaint the figure had a chest for a back and vice versa. By swapping the arms and using a different head Hasbro were able to get two faintly different looking robot modes from one mold.

I'm not the biggest fan of this mold with its awkward shoulders, unsatisfying transformation and limp weapons but I know a lot of people like it so I won't bash it too hard. It does have some cute features though. Sunstreaker has “WE R 84” written on his license plate which is a nice reference to 1984 and sort of makes sense if you squint. Universe Sideswipe has “SWIPE” written on his while Henkei Lambor has, well, “LAMBOR”

Needless to say that wasn't the end for this mold. Possibly as an apology to Japan for having to wait over a year to get the Classics molds Takara produced a Japan only figure: Alert. This was probably the best iteration of the mold with nice colours, a cool looking weapon and a license reading “ALERT”. Also in the near future a version of Punch/Counterpunch using this mold will be released by the Club and a future BotCOn figure will also use it. Good luck collecting them all!

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“I'm on a LIST?!? What list?! Where?!”

The coolest of the Stunticons is Breakdown. Where his teammates are angry brutes Breakdown is a quieter and more thoughful sort. The reason for this quietness is that Breakdown is the paranoid sort, always worried that someone is out to get him. So...two of the Lamborghinis are paranoid? Must be a CONSPIRACY. Breakdown was also one of the later Transformers to have an explicit superpower; the ability to cause machines to break down. It sounds a little limited but in the cartoon he managed to bust out of jail with it.

Oddly his cartoon model and later figures were coloured white and navy but his original figure was more of an off-white, bleached bone kind of colour. Why can't the Stunticons ever keep their original colours?

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“B-R-E-A-K-D...no, E-A! E-A! All the spellcheckers are AGAINST ME!”

Brakedown from the ROTF line is a clear homage to G1 Breakdown. His car mode is a little chunky , he has no weapons and well, the name but I'm the last person in the world to question a brand new mold for a modestly obscure character.

For G2 Breakdown was produced but never received an official release. Given his distinctly nineties' paintjob this may have been for the best. He was released in a very limited number during BotCon and to celebrate the next BotCon set will feature the Universe Lamborghini mold redecoed as G2 Breaky.

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“From North America, Wheeler with the power of fire.”

Freewheeler or Free Wheeler is a cute Countach micromaster. He's not very famous sadly.

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Law of Lamborghini: all small Lamborghinis must be yellow.

Neo-wheel was part of the Sixturbo team of combiners. He was later rereleased as one of the Universe Protectobots. He looks uncannily like Freewheeler. Weird.

Flash of the Turbomasters is a neat homage to the Datsuns of 1984 with his crest, bonnet boob and door wings. He has a neat bird decal on his chest and a fantastic turbine cannon. This guy was never released in America (hah!) but he's well worth tracking down.

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“FLAME ON!”

Laster was an excellent figure who could merge with his teammates to form the powerful Road King. His Euro rerelease, Flame, lacked the combiner kibble but did have a rather substantial braininess stat.

Similarly Firecracker of the Spychangers is a Lambo with a couple of repaints. He's kinda cool but not as good as the mold with the exposed engine. Love that guy.

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Prowl from RiD is one of my favourite deluxe size figures. His Lamborghini mode looks incredible and has attachable rocket boosters. His robot mode is supremely cool too with a well-detailed chest, groovy thigh armour, big ol' shoulders and a shield on one arm and a pair of flamethrowers on the other. Despite his obvious awesomeness he was stuck with a stick-in-the-mud personality in the cartoon. He also got repainted as...wait for it...Sunstreaker and Sideswipe. And, um, Inferno.

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Bumbleplug.

When Armada Prime was released he came with a minicon with the name of a G1 token human, the colour and relationship with Prime of Bumblebee and a cool car mode. He's a pretty cheap feeling Minicon though.

Well that's it for Lamborghinis and for the list. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have and I look forward to reading everyone's future comments and Honourable Mentions.

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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby SJ21 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:44 am

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Diem, thanks for taking the time and effort to put this list together. It was a truly entertaining read. Great work!
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby First-Aid » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:28 am

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Great work Diem. Loved the list.

You know, looking at ol G1 Sunstreaker he has a lot of similarities to a Delorean. With that engine on the back, all he'd need is a flux capacitor and then he'd be spot on! Oh, and the silver paintjob...
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby hpfabe » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:39 am

Diem, you forgot (unless you're counting Breakdown from ROTF) the lambo from the Revenge of the Fallen game. I can post up pics of the concept art for him, but it's actually a gorgeous design.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Oilspill » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:55 am

Awesome posts Diem, my good man. Many an hour has been well spent reading this thread.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Hip-Hoptimus Rime » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:04 am

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Don't think yer done, mister. When can we see the individual posts minus replies like you promised? I wanna cut and paste to save them.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby hpfabe » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:26 am

hpfabe wrote:Diem, you forgot (unless you're counting Breakdown from ROTF) the lambo from the Revenge of the Fallen game. I can post up pics of the concept art for him, but it's actually a gorgeous design.


Here are some of the pics I was talking about. Not toys, I know, but it's the Revetnon, my favorite Lambo.
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Editor » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:27 pm

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Diem,

Congrats on a great thread. The shear amount of work and references in every entry made each one worth coming back to this thread over and over. Just great work.

Now what do have prepared for your next epic thread???
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Savage » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:36 pm

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Diem wrote:SILENCE! There's much to do. We will attack other threads, we will suck them dry, we will rebuild the threads twenty-six times more powerful than Cybertron! And I will rule the galaxy!


Who will rule the galaxy?
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Re: 26 of the Greatest Alt Modes of All Time.

Postby Razorclaw0000 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:44 pm

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Diem wrote:SILENCE! There's much to do. We will attack other threads, we will suck them dry, we will rebuild the threads twenty-six times more powerful than Cybertron! And I will rule the galaxy!


Who will rule the galaxy?


Beast Wars Transquito? With that whole "suck them dry" line?
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