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Postby Just Negare » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:09 am

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Truly this is an awesome game.

I spent the weekend at my cousins bleeding out of my retinas playing it. So I decide not to be a cheap arse and I go purchase it. And of course, what do I get for my troubles, the thing crashes during the opening movie sequence, I tried a few of the online tricks, and I managed to make it to the "birthday party".

Honest to prime beef. Don't glitches like a full scale crash just rip the crotch right out of your undies? I'd like to think it can't be my three month old computer that is gruntier than a 2 dollar woman of the night with questionable standards.

Anyway, my adventures in trying to fix this aside, isn't this just a spectacular game? I love the rag doll effect of corpses.

I mean, its just such a cool game I'm not going to apologise if there's already a topic about it. :D
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Grahf » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:50 pm

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What system are you playing it on? If you're on the 360, try installing it. That seems to help with quite a few glitches on that system.

That being said, it doesn't always fix the problem. I always install my games and the system still freezes sometimes.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby The Happy Locust » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:34 pm

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Grahf wrote:What system are you playing it on? If you're on the 360, try installing it. That seems to help with quite a few glitches on that system.

That being said, it doesn't always fix the problem. I always install my games and the system still freezes sometimes.


Negare mentioned a computer so It's a good bet that's the console of choice.

No arguments about the game. Truly one of my all-time favorites. Despite the flaws, it handled immersion so fully that you'd lose all track of reality. Like most people, I took 2 separate characters through the wasteland. My first was a male good guy and was played 'honestly' (meaning no hints or maps). Guy was a perfect saint and this was the character I took through the expansions. My second was a female evil character and was played with full 3rd party support (all strategy guides, maps, but no codes). This character burned everything to the ground.

Ironically, the good guy ruined Vault 101 whereas the evil one became its savior. Guess home is the one place where things aren't always the same.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Grahf » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:50 pm

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Sorry man, for some reason I totally missed the computer part. Don't give up though, Fallout 3 has to be one of the best games in recent history.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Dragonslayer » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:52 am

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One of the two best RPG games I've played and one of the best games of all-time. I recently reinvigorated by fondness for the Wasteland since I bought Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta recently. Now if only there wasn't any level cap...

Still, Fallout 3 is awesomeness, and Fallout: New Vegas looks like it's awesomeness, too :twisted:
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Scatterlung » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:25 am

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I've been playing this and Oblivion on PC for the past couple weeks (I go through phases). The games are good vanilla, but honestly, after you've had some fun with it, go look up some mods.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:55 pm

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I didn't care for it. There's a lot I hated about it, such as how it was a pain in the ass getting from point A to point B, and that those points were usually very far apart and forced you to wade though points C, D, and E.

The scenery was top-notch, though. Bethesda can do beautiful scenery like no other. I don't think I've ever stared at an in-game for as long as I did in Morrowind and Oblivion.

But yeah, I am one of, if not the ONLY person who didn't like Fallout 3.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Scatterlung » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:22 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Get ready to hate me in 3...2...1...

I didn't care for it. There's a lot I hated about it, such as how it was a pain in the ass getting from point A to point B, and that those points were usually very far apart and forced you to wade though points C, D, and E.

The scenery was top-notch, though. Bethesda can do beautiful scenery like no other. I don't think I've ever stared at an in-game for as long as I did in Morrowind and Oblivion.

But yeah, I am one of, if not the ONLY person who didn't like Fallout 3.

I would give this game a 10/10 if it weren't for one thing. Just one thing.

Diagonal running animations. I know the game was built for 1st Person mainly, but I much prefer 3rd person and they kind of shafted those of us who prefer to play that way.

Oh and the voice acting. More actors would've neatly hidden the mediocre acting. Maybe.

And what is it with RPGs not giving our character's voices? Dammit I wanna hear my creation talk!
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:53 pm

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Scatterlung wrote:And what is it with RPGs not giving our character's voices? Dammit I wanna hear my creation talk!


Bioware solved that problem very nicely in Mass Effect. You have a list of options giving the gist of what you can say, and the character will fully voice what you said.

Another thing I liked in Fallout, the Robot Butler who tells jokes. "Photons have mass? I didn't know they were Catholic."
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Scatterlung » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:57 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Bioware solved that problem very nicely in Mass Effect. You have a list of options giving the gist of what you can say, and the character will fully voice what you said.


Well I'm a PS3 user, and all we got was Dragon Age, where they ditched that feature, sadly. It would honestly have made the game amazing.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:04 pm

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Scatterlung wrote:
Shadowman wrote:Bioware solved that problem very nicely in Mass Effect. You have a list of options giving the gist of what you can say, and the character will fully voice what you said.


Well I'm a PS3 user, and all we got was Dragon Age, where they ditched that feature, sadly. It would honestly have made the game amazing.


Even weirder is that Dragon Age Origins came out in between Mass Effect 1 and 2, and both of those games had the same conversation system. So it's not like they ditched it when Dragon Age Origins came out, they just didn't include it.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Scatterlung » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:31 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Bioware solved that problem very nicely in Mass Effect. You have a list of options giving the gist of what you can say, and the character will fully voice what you said.


Well I'm a PS3 user, and all we got was Dragon Age, where they ditched that feature, sadly. It would honestly have made the game amazing.


Even weirder is that Dragon Age Origins came out in between Mass Effect 1 and 2, and both of those games had the same conversation system. So it's not like they ditched it when Dragon Age Origins came out, they just didn't include it.


So... wait, what?
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby The Happy Locust » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:36 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Scatterlung wrote:
Shadowman wrote:Bioware solved that problem very nicely in Mass Effect. You have a list of options giving the gist of what you can say, and the character will fully voice what you said.


Well I'm a PS3 user, and all we got was Dragon Age, where they ditched that feature, sadly. It would honestly have made the game amazing.


Even weirder is that Dragon Age Origins came out in between Mass Effect 1 and 2, and both of those games had the same conversation system. So it's not like they ditched it when Dragon Age Origins came out, they just didn't include it.


My guess is that the conversation trees for Dragon age would have been too difficult to fully voice given the amount of variation in the character design. Creating unique spoken voice chains for each origin for each race per gender would be something along the line of 15 different voices that would need to be spoken throughout the game, then multiplied by however many variations (moody, brave, sultry, etc) on the individual voices they wanted to go with. Haven't played Mass effect but my understanding is that you're always the same basic character. You can vary gender and style but the basic story's the same and much more manageable to voice. At least, that's how I see it.

And granted, fully voiced PC dialog in DA:O would've been awesome.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Scatterlung » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:37 pm

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Saints Row 2 was on the way to doing it. Even though only one of those voices were any good... Not as much variation but feh.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:30 pm

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Scatterlung wrote:Saints Row 2 was on the way to doing it. Even though only one of those voices were any good... Not as much variation but feh.


You should see/hear Splinter Cell Conviction. The worst enemy chatter ever. And they never shut up.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Blackstreak » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:55 am

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Oops, sorry. I thought this was about Fallout 3.

*Looks around* Oh yea, I guess it is. :lol:
Anyways, I've playing Fallout 3 on my roomie's 360 and immediately got hooked. Since I've played Oblivion for several years (it seems) I figures Fallout 3 can't be that bad. It's pretty awesome so I bought a PC version of the Game of the Year edition. Still waiting for it to show up in the mail.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:06 am

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I love Fallout 3... I can't wait for New Vegas either!
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Just Negare » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:35 am

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Well, I managed to fix the thing, all I had to do was that " bUseThreadedAI=1" change thing. No problems since.

I agree with you Shadowman about getting from A to B, but I reached a tolerance for it when you get that perk where you can travel through the map without having to traspe across the landscape.

I've already pre-ordered New Vegas, I like what's seen so far.

Friggin' mirelurks make me smile, though.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Lazarus81 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:32 pm

I liked fall out 3,but I thought it ran short on the story. The game ends and your done, Marrow winds always let you continue on. I also think there should be a vehicle and other dogs. I like the hole team deal, but not crazy about the fighting, it gets kinda repetitive, getting hit multiple time is okay but should be explained by armor. If you hit an enemy in the head or heart with a bullet they should die. i think if you could mix fall out with call of duty, it would be one hell of a game. I also wish u could make your character with a little more detail. still a must have game
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby The Happy Locust » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:33 pm

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Lazarus81 wrote:I liked fall out 3,but I thought it ran short on the story. The game ends and your done, Marrow winds always let you continue on. I also think there should be a vehicle and other dogs. I like the hole team deal, but not crazy about the fighting, it gets kinda repetitive, getting hit multiple time is okay but should be explained by armor. If you hit an enemy in the head or heart with a bullet they should die. i think if you could mix fall out with call of duty, it would be one hell of a game. I also wish u could make your character with a little more detail. still a must have game


The main Fallout game ends abruptly, but they added a post-game story in the Broken Steel expansion that lets you continue playing post-endgame. Seemed like a bit of a cop-out to me but it was still fun, if a bit linear.
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Re: Fallout 3

Postby Blackstreak » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:29 am

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The only down side to this game is the level cap...and I agree on the getting shot in the head or heart. You should be dead. Period. But I guess they didn't do that because then everyone would be doing head shots in VATS.

Wait a minute, I already do primarily headshots anyways. Theres less armor there.

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