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News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:06 pm

I smell what iGear is cookin'.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:50 pm

rpetras wrote:Not impressed.

What happened?

These were iGear's bread and butter for the foreseeable future and the last 4 revels have been weak at best.

Guys, go back to the drawing board.
ALL of these can be improved....

....Gears and Beachcomber look to be the same standard as Brawn and Cosmos, but none of the new four seem to be up to the same standards.

Couldn't agree more. iGear have really let themselves go with these four. I'll be skipping all of them if they turn out like these renders.

by **Rated X** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:37 pm

Mkall wrote:Not interested. I like my Classics Cliffjumper and it took me a long time to find the Bumblebee I wanted for my shelf, so I'm in no hurry to replace them with these guys.

HOWEVER should they do a Glyph/Tap-Out repaint, I'm so in.

This is one of the rare cases where I will say that the figures are not neo enough for me. :shock:

The figures really need to be more streamlined with more of a waist. The car cab chest looks too big. Or is it that the shins/wrists are too small ? And Bumblebees head just sucks. Im not going to say I wont buy them, but they cant replace Beezleboss Cliffjumper and Artfeather Bumblebee. I like the idea of Glyph and Tap Out repaints though.

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Pass, and pass. My Classics of both are fine and dandy, thank you very much.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:34 pm

Rated X wrote:This is one of the rare cases where I will say that the figures are not neo enough for me.

You felling alright?

I've got Classics BB and very happy with him. Using HftD Hubcap as my CJ right now and would consider this one if the price was the same as Hench and UFO. The only minibots I really need are Wheelie and Hubcap (small bit of irony there) and not sure why iGear are wasting time with characters that have had a number of toy and upgrade releases.

by **Wh33l Jck** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:50 pm

They are more 1984 than classics if that is your preference, also no kibble on the arms, and looks like none will be on the back. I wonder if they altered the face on BB on purpose to escape any kind of IP (longshot guess)?

They should have done Windcharger first though.

There are enough BB and CJ releases by Hasbro already.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:23 pm

Not too impressed or interested.

by **Glarryg** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:08 pm

I've wanted a G1-styled, yellow VW Beetle 'Bee with decent poseability since the '80s, so this is cake for me. If it had an original toy-style head, that would be the icing. I always preferred the toy heads over the cartoon heads for all of the G1 characters.

Glarryg

by **1984forever** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:01 pm

I'm really looking forward to these. I need a Bee and CJ that are a little shorter than Hench. It's too bad that iGear takes so damn long to release their products. Maybe they can get some of the old CHMS sweatshop workers to work for them. Those guy were fast!

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sun May 05, 2013 11:46 pm

Prototype pics!

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:38 am

They look ghastly!!! :SICK:

My Classics BB isn't getting replaced anytime soon and my current Cliffjumper stand-in (missed the classics version and not interested in tracking it down now) looks much better than that

Thank you iGear for helping me save money.

by **NOS** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:10 am

I'm sorry, igear, but these BB and CJ are just horrifying...

Very easy pass.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon May 06, 2013 6:40 am

I might be persuaded to get these. Don't have a proper Cliffjumper, and this one looks decent, and has the bazooka! Not sure on Bee. The official Classics one is still mostly alright. The bot mode on this one does have the VW elements I loved from the G1 down to a t though.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Mon May 06, 2013 7:22 am

Stinger having duel matching pistols was unexpected. Maybe slightly influenced by Animated?

I like that they gave a cartoon accurate BFG to Rocky, but they need to make it so he can carry the cannon in car mode, maybe on clipped to his spoiler? Or do the two guns mount in the screw holes on the sides of his windows?

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:37 am

Stinger looks terrible.

That is all.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:45 am

They look fat

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:51 am

mooncake623 wrote:They look fat

I don't mind that so much, as it is very toy accurate, but the face on BB is inexcusable.

All in all, both look better in prototype form than they did in the concept renders, but I'm still not really feeling these.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:56 am

Those chests are killing these molds :SICK:

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News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:00 am

rpetras wrote:All in all, both look better in prototype form than they did in the concept renders

That's not saying much. Bad rendered in 3D is still bad.

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:04 am

They both look bad and I shall pass by these with negative regret.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:19 am

just noticed more so on BB but these guys are crotch less :lol:

by **Wh33l Jck** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:29 am

I'm liking these more and more. I like how it is a homage to the original g1 toy.

I think I can live with BB face. But I was thinking though:

The designer said he made multiple heads, but Igear chose the one they liked best. Maybe instead of 2 of the same pistols (which is lame) why not 1 pistol and 1 alternate head??? I mean...CJ gets a bazooka and a pistol, and BB just gets 2 small pistols... an extra alternate head sculpt would be a good trade off.

What is that hole in their crotch? It seems like some extra piece should peg in there?

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:31 am

rpetras wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:They look fat

I don't mind that so much, as it is very toy accurate, but the face on BB is inexcusable.

All in all, both look better in prototype form than they did in the concept renders, but I'm still not really feeling these.

I still mind even if it is toy accurate, it just doesn't look right. Cartoon accuracy would've been the better route for these. O well more money for other stuff.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:38 am

warzon3 wrote:I'm liking these more and more. I like how it is a homage to the original g1 toy.

I think I can live with BB face. But I was thinking though:

The designer said he made multiple heads, but Igear chose the one they liked best. Maybe instead of 2 of the same pistols (which is lame) why not 1 pistol and 1 alternate head??? I mean...CJ gets a bazooka and a pistol, and BB just gets 2 small pistols... an extra alternate head sculpt would be a good trade off.

What is that hole in their crotch? It seems like some extra piece should peg in there?

Another while a minor gripe now you mention the guns is that one side is hollow they could have at least made them a solid piece .

by **1984forever** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:41 am

(sigh) still on board with both Bee and CJ, surprisingly. Both of them are the same size as the classics versions in robot mode, so I'm not losing anything. The alt-modes look good.