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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:12 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:Well I got my Toynami Maia Sterling Alpha fighter...

I was pretty terrified to open the box, and was expect the worst QC I've ever seen.

With some fidgeting, I managed to get the fighter looking straight, with all the panels and parts lined up. The plastic feels cheap though, as does the paint. Haven't transformed it yet though... >:oP

Overall, I'm happy with the purchase.


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Re: Macross/Robotech

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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:20 pm

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Another thread I'm dusting off.

With upcoming products like Arcadia's YF-19 and re-releases of Yamato Valks, as well as Bandai's fairly regularly released DX Chogokin Macross toys, this is as good a time as any to get some discussion going again on Macross products.

The latest news I've come across is that Bandai is releasing a Super Parts pack for the DX VF-25A and I think that pricing and pre-order begin date will be announced at Tamashii Nations 2013.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:21 pm

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Convotron wrote:Another thread I'm dusting off.

With upcoming products like Arcadia's YF-19 and re-releases of Yamato Valks, as well as Bandai's fairly regularly released DX Chogokin Macross toys, this is as good a time as any to get some discussion going again on Macross products.

The latest news I've come across is that Bandai is releasing a Super Parts pack for the DX VF-25A and I think that pricing and pre-order begin date will be announced at Tamashii Nations 2013.


I was told Yamato went out of business.

The last Macross series I heard of was Frontiers and that the toys were crap at first before Bandai did second runs. I also heard that the main Valk from that series was one of the last releases in the SOC line before it went on hiatus.

I have not bought a Macross item since the 1/100 Super/Strike VF-1S which is the best version of the VF-1S in that scale.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:25 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was told Yamato went out of business.

The last Macross series I heard of was Frontiers and that the toys were crap at first before Bandai did second runs. I also heard that the main Valk from that series was one of the last releases in the SOC line before it went on hiatus.

I have not bought a Macross item since the 1/100 Super/Strike VF-1S which is the best version of the VF-1S in that scale.


Yes, Yamato is no more. As I understand it, Arcadia is made up of a significant portion of ex-Yamato employees. Arcadia has bought up some of the molds and designs that were Yamato's and they are now moving forward with producing high end toys of Macross designs.

The 1/60 version 2 VF-1J in 30th anniversary deco was released several weeks ago by Arcadia. I believe next up in November is the VF-1S in Roy Fokker deco, Do You Remember Love, aka movie version. The VF-1S in Hikaru's deco is due in December.

Then in April 2014, Arcadia is releasing what is essentially a version 2 of the YF-19 from Macross Plus. Included are the Fast Pack parts. It is quite hefty in price at over 30000 yen/$300.

As far as Bandai's Macross Frontier DX Chogokin toys, yes, the first versions of the VF-25 Valkyries were very poor in design. Thankfully, the version 2, aka Renewal versions are far superior and are worthy of any Macross fan's collection. The VF-25A Mass Production version, aka Cannon Fodder version, toy is the latest DX Chogokin VF to be released.

In December, the DX Chogokin YF-29 Durandal VF is being released again but this time in a Isamu Dyson deco. It would be expensive but I can imagine an impressive Macross Plus themed display with both the DX YF-29 Isamu ver. and Arcadia's upcoming YF-19 side by side.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:36 pm

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Convotron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was told Yamato went out of business.

The last Macross series I heard of was Frontiers and that the toys were crap at first before Bandai did second runs. I also heard that the main Valk from that series was one of the last releases in the SOC line before it went on hiatus.

I have not bought a Macross item since the 1/100 Super/Strike VF-1S which is the best version of the VF-1S in that scale.


Yes, Yamato is no more. As I understand it, Arcadia is made up of a significant portion of ex-Yamato employees. Arcadia has bought up some of the molds and designs that were Yamato's and they are now moving forward with producing high end toys of Macross designs.

The 1/60 version 2 VF-1J in 30th anniversary deco was released several weeks ago by Arcadia. I believe next up in November is the VF-1S in Roy Fokker deco, Do You Remember Love, aka movie version. The VF-1S in Hikaru's deco is due in December.

Then in April 2014, Arcadia is releasing what is essentially a version 2 of the YF-19 from Macross Plus. Included are the Fast Pack parts. It is quite hefty in price at over 30000 yen/$300.

As far as Bandai's Macross Frontier DX Chogokin toys, yes, the first versions of the VF-25 Valkyries were very poor in design. Thankfully, the version 2, aka Renewal versions are far superior and are worthy of any Macross fan's collection. The VF-25A Mass Production version, aka Cannon Fodder version, toy is the latest DX Chogokin VF to be released.

In December, the DX Chogokin YF-29 Durandal VF is being released again but this time in a Isamu Dyson deco. It would be expensive but I can imagine an impressive Macross Plus themed display with both the DX YF-29 Isamu ver. and Arcadia's upcoming YF-19 side by side.


I have quite a few 1/48 scale Valkries as well as the larger sized YF-19 and YF-29. I never touched the YF-29 because I heard it was fragile. The only 1/60 scale figures I have are a Max VF-1J that has the removable legs and the 25th VF-1S Strike that was just a scaled down 1/48. I know Yamato was constantly tweaking their molds to make them better but What I have is solid enough for me since I don't display them.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:42 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have quite a few 1/48 scale Valkries as well as the larger sized YF-19 and YF-29. I never touched the YF-29 because I heard it was fragile. The only 1/60 scale figures I have are a Max VF-1J that has the removable legs and the 25th VF-1S Strike that was just a scaled down 1/48. I know Yamato was constantly tweaking their molds to make them better but What I have is solid enough for me since I don't display them.


The only 1/60 scale Macross toy I have is the DX Chogokin VF-25A, though I have Arcadia's re-issue of the VF-1S in Roy Fokker deco on pre-order. When Yamato was at its peak a few years ago, I was deep into Transformers and Gundam so I didn't have any room in my budget for high priced items like the Yamato Valks. I feel like I missed out on some great Macross collectibles.

The biggest issue I had with Yamato when I became aware of their Macross toys was the relatively high rate of production and structural design issues on their early production run units. I really like the fact that they would go back to the drawing board to revise designs for subsequent production runs but it seemed like every discussion of Yamato Macross toys involved stories of people finding parts broken in the box, parts with fractures in the box, or parts breaking upon first transformation by people who are careful and experienced with transforming figures.

Towards the end of Yamato's time on the scene, they seemed to really get their QC and structural design well taken care of at product launch but by that point, the company was not fiscally healthy enough to last. From what I've read, part of the issue was over saturation of the market with numerous redecos that were released.

I would be more into Bandai's DX Chogokin Renewal era toys if I could only get a hold of more of them. The only reason I was able to get a VF-25A is probably partly due to it being a MP/CF variant. All the "Hero" deco Valks seem to disappear before I can pre-order them and I will not buy them at inflated after market pricing.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:49 am

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You did miss out on some great figures; in my opinion their VF-1s are the best since the original toys. After the first year of making Macross product Yamato got their act together, right in time for the 20th Anniversary I think. The reissues were more about fixing little things that only the die hards were anal about. I was able to get in on them because I had the cash and the big collector boom hadn't really reached Macross/Robotech yet. Right now I'd only be interested in 1/100 scale perfect transformation figures.

That reminds me the one thing I can't stand about Macross toys, all the Valks are in scale to themselves. I wish the sizing of the toys was done more traditionally. For example all the 1/60 scale figures are the same size.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:12 pm

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I'm hunting down a version 2 Yamato VF-1 right now. With the pricing that Arcadia is employing, buying a MISB Yamato Valkyrie on the secondary market is comparable in price.

I have the Bandai VF Hi Metal VF-1J in Hikaru's deco. It's a great little toy and it's the best VF-1 I have until I get a Yamato or Arcadia VF-1.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:14 pm

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Convotron wrote:I'm hunting down a version 2 Yamato VF-1 right now. With the pricing that Arcadia is employing, buying a MISB Yamato Valkyrie on the secondary market is comparable in price.

I have the Bandai VF Hi Metal VF-1J in Hikaru's deco. It's a great little toy and it's the best VF-1 I have until I get a Yamato or Arcadia VF-1.


The Hi Metals are the best at that scale.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:40 pm

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I wish Bandai continued with the VF Hi Metal line. I recall seeing what looked like a prototype of a VF Hi Metal VF-2SS.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:20 pm

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Convotron wrote:I wish Bandai continued with the VF Hi Metal line. I recall seeing what looked like a prototype of a VF Hi Metal VF-2SS.


I remember some of the early ones were horrible because they were parts formers with only a slightly transforming torso
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby SentinelA » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:43 pm

My friend has got me watching Robotech recently. Trying to get into it but not quite there yet.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:51 pm

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Hey there. I've been a heavy poster in the Third Party forum, but have been reading this thread off and on as I am a huge Macross and Robotech fan. I had the Shadow Beta from the Shadow Chronicles on preorder from BBTS. I thought I'd share the bad news. I am bummed.

BigBadToyStore wrote:Hello,

We have been informed by Toynami that they will not be producing the New Generation Beta Fighter MPC Volume 4. Due to this matter we unfortunately must cancel our preorders since the item will no longer be released. We do apologize for this matter and greatly appreciate your understanding. If this product is re-solicited in the future we will be sure to publish it on our website once again.

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The Alpha/Beta combo was maybe my favorite Veritech from Robotech. I have the Blue series, but my Scott Bernard Alpha suffers from some of the QA issues mentioned elsewhere. Plus, I liked this one for including the synchro cannon. Ah, well.

I guess this means that we are not likely to see a Hover Tank any time soon, too.

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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:51 am

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I'm not surprised really. Their releases are reflective of their QC. Unfortunately since the whole Shadow thing is strictly Robotech I can't recommend another brand/line to find the figure.
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