The Energon Pub

Alternate use for the Crane of Mobile Crane, c/o Lejamonster of the TFW2005 boards.

1. Unscrew the crane base.
(unscrewing the crane doesn't affect alt mode)
2. Now you have a weapon-crane.
3. Robot mode is much balanced.
4. Attach the crane (using the weapon peg) behind neck.
5. Enjoy !
Bonus:
6. Collect the screw as a limited Maketoys item.

Scouring the boards has dampened my anticipation for Giant.

It's not like these were rushed to market... I'm taking about design flaws that go directly into play function. Wheels misplaced by mere millimeters (Mobile Crane in alt mode), neck articulation limited in combined mode, splintering of joints. Such tolerances should have been tested and refined well before full scale production. For a flagship release (mind you, without the entire set in hand), this one is slowly unraveling.

Your fans have been patient (ultimatum imminent). Fix it, MakeToys; and make it up to your early adopters, or you'll find your Green Giant preorders turning into after Christmas clearance sales.

Not seen any major issues that have put me off, particularly in comparison to Hercules. Just had a nosey at the price and I'm all set for this. Will pre-order when I get paid.

craggy wrote:Not seen any major issues that have put me off, particularly in comparison to Hercules. Just had a nosey at the price and I'm all set for this. Will pre-order when I get paid.

You do know if you pre order it from bigbadtoystore you don't have to pay t I'll it ships. I'm mean I'm sure the pre order isn't gonna sell out just letting you know

Hotrodimust wrote:

craggy wrote:Not seen any major issues that have put me off, particularly in comparison to Hercules. Just had a nosey at the price and I'm all set for this. Will pre-order when I get paid.

You do know if you pre order it from bigbadtoystore you don't have to pay t I'll it ships. I'm mean I'm sure the pre order isn't gonna sell out just letting you know

Thanks, but I already know that. I also know that shipping from the US is stupidly expensive, despite sending stuff there from this side of the Atlantic being fairly reasonable. I'm not keen on paying half as much again as the set costs just to get it posted to me.

craggy wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

craggy wrote:Not seen any major issues that have put me off, particularly in comparison to Hercules. Just had a nosey at the price and I'm all set for this. Will pre-order when I get paid.

You do know if you pre order it from bigbadtoystore you don't have to pay t I'll it ships. I'm mean I'm sure the pre order isn't gonna sell out just letting you know

Thanks, but I already know that. I also know that shipping from the US is stupidly expensive, despite sending stuff there from this side of the Atlantic being fairly reasonable. I'm not keen on paying half as much again as the set costs just to get it posted to me.

Oh sorry did not know you were over seas ya it's it I sell on eBay and I only ship priority over seas and it's like $35 to $45 just to ship and first class is to risky they have no seller protection with first class

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It's because they're not based on Western construction vehicles but Japanese toys based on Japanese construction vehicles. It may not be accurate to what you see in your part of the world but it is accurate to what you'd find in a G1 Transformers collection and that's what they were going for.[/quote]

thats whay i say , the g1 how ever nice was flawd...

in my view your not 100% correct becouse if you googel "
japanese construction vehicles" ( and then the name of the verhikel ex crane ) you wil find a lot of cranes withe driver cabs on the left...

my gues so far is this : that this was a mistake made when flipping a cel... (its not the 1st time a g1 transformer has been mirrord in the cartoon...) and i think they stuck withe it...

make toys alterd the robots anyway to make a new rep of thes toys.. so altering this smal bit should be no point...

just make a replacement part that is send withe crane so you can alter it yourself or make a correct version...

i think they know they are going to sel them to mostly countries withe left hand drive so i think if you dont mind changing robots then this should have been done...

it does not stop that al the cabs are on the left , and cranes is on the right wich i dont like now...and i wil mod myself... if not alterd...

i would love to see a photoshop pix of how that looks

I was interested... Was.

The design flaws, the look, and now the price...all turns offs. I'm still not willing to pay Hercules prices, but I'm not willing to pay Giant prices either. Now...if Hercules could've been had for Giant's pricing...maybe they might've sold me. As is? No.

I definitely find that in my construction vehicles that turn into alien robots, that combine to form a bigger alien robot, realism is my primary concern.


I lie. I hadn't even noticed what side the cabs were on. If they're on the correct side, it makes no real difference to me.

I've recently put reprolabels on 3 of my herc figures with the 4th figures set on its way and I can't tell you how much better the figures look in bot mode and alt mode and with scrapper oops I meant NOT scrapper you get decals for herc wing chest plate it just really slaps some g1 on him. Also I got the upgrade kit to make him look a little more how he was in the show but I like how he dosnt have four arms that just sit around useless in alt mode but we will see how it goes when the kit comes out. And my set b finally comes in tomorrow so I get to check out most of giant my self in hand and not thru pics because nothing gives you a better feel for a figure than your own hands lol

craggy wrote:I definitely find that in my construction vehicles that turn into alien robots, that combine to form a bigger alien robot, realism is my primary concern.


I lie. I hadn't even noticed what side the cabs were on. If they're on the correct side, it makes no real difference to me.

That's what I'm sayin'! As long as it looks like Devastator, right? Does it really matter if Devastator's been wrong for 30+ years at this point?

These guys aren't even getting Decepticon symbols when I get them. I really don't need to use 13 Con stickers, especially not G2 ones! I have enough silver G1 ones that I can wallpaper my apartment with them if I wanted because they tossed them in free for so long but G2? No way.

Pre-Orders

RK:
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/es ... tID=41_267

Kapow Toys:
http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/maketoys-gia ... tm3g2c71t7

Hotrodimust wrote:I've recently put reprolabels on 3 of my herc figures with the 4th figures set on its way and I can't tell you how much better the figures look in bot mode and alt mode and with scrapper oops I meant NOT scrapper you get decals for herc wing chest plate it just really slaps some g1 on him. Also I got the upgrade kit to make him look a little more how he was in the show but I like how he dosnt have four arms that just sit around useless in alt mode but we will see how it goes when the kit comes out. And my set b finally comes in tomorrow so I get to check out most of giant my self in hand and not thru pics because nothing gives you a better feel for a figure than your own hands lol

four arms? he's not Goro from Mortal Kombat.

craggy wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:I've recently put reprolabels on 3 of my herc figures with the 4th figures set on its way and I can't tell you how much better the figures look in bot mode and alt mode and with scrapper oops I meant NOT scrapper you get decals for herc wing chest plate it just really slaps some g1 on him. Also I got the upgrade kit to make him look a little more how he was in the show but I like how he dosnt have four arms that just sit around useless in alt mode but we will see how it goes when the kit comes out. And my set b finally comes in tomorrow so I get to check out most of giant my self in hand and not thru pics because nothing gives you a better feel for a figure than your own hands lol

four arms? he's not Goro from Mortal Kombat.

Lol stupid spell correction on my phone but more annoying are the people who gotta say something about it like they didnt understand what I was talking about

If I'd been able to understand the post properly in the first place I might have picked up on that being a typo.

Anyway, GIANT in green: Looks very nice, and the price for the combined set is pretty good. Kapow says it is expected in May, we got any more specific dates from anywhere else? Even just "late" or "early" May...or does May indicate the usual for 3rd party items, by which I mean June-July-ish?

craggy wrote:If I'd been able to understand the post properly in the first place I might have picked up on that being a typo.

Anyway, GIANT in green: Looks very nice, and the price for the combined set is pretty good. Kapow says it is expected in May, we got any more specific dates from anywhere else? Even just "late" or "early" May...or does May indicate the usual for 3rd party items, by which I mean June-July-ish?

All other sites say June but I wouldn't see why not may since set c for the yellow version release in may but who knows

Hotrodimust wrote:

craggy wrote:If I'd been able to understand the post properly in the first place I might have picked up on that being a typo.

Anyway, GIANT in green: Looks very nice, and the price for the combined set is pretty good. Kapow says it is expected in May, we got any more specific dates from anywhere else? Even just "late" or "early" May...or does May indicate the usual for 3rd party items, by which I mean June-July-ish?

All other sites say June but I wouldn't see why not may since set c for the yellow version release in may but who knows

yeah, it's set 3 being released so recently that makes me wonder, although I suppose they might have started cranking out the green versions of the earlier 4 bots as soon as they finished the yellow runs.

I just pre-ordered mine on Kapow. I hope my bank account forgives me

Banjo-Tron wrote:I just pre-ordered mine on Kapow. I hope my bank account forgives me

yeah, I really hate that when I do pre-order from them, I'll be £200andwhatever down until the damn thing ships. Wish they'd sort that out.

I just got my set b in and I'm highly disappointed my left arm port sucks every time I move the arm it pops out and the left connection tab to connect Crane and dump truck won't insert into the little whole I tried pushing it in with a small object but the tab is as far over as it can go and even if it did go in the connection isn't great anyways the tabs are very small IMO this set has nothing on Hercules and you can see how the extra money is spent

Hotrodimust wrote:I just got my set b in and I'm highly disappointed my left arm port sucks every time I move the arm it pops out and the left connection tab to connect Crane and dump truck won't insert into the little whole I tried pushing it in with a small object but the tab is as far over as it can go and even if it did go in the connection isn't great anyways the tabs are very small IMO this set has nothing on Hercules and you can see how the extra money is spent

YEAH!

craggy wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:I just got my set b in and I'm highly disappointed my left arm port sucks every time I move the arm it pops out and the left connection tab to connect Crane and dump truck won't insert into the little whole I tried pushing it in with a small object but the tab is as far over as it can go and even if it did go in the connection isn't great anyways the tabs are very small IMO this set has nothing on Hercules and you can see how the extra money is spent

YEAH!

sorry to hear that i just recieved set a and b but havent opened them yet hopefully this is a fluke and one they will remedy soon.

craggy wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:I just got my set b in and I'm highly disappointed my left arm port sucks every time I move the arm it pops out and the left connection tab to connect Crane and dump truck won't insert into the little whole I tried pushing it in with a small object but the tab is as far over as it can go and even if it did go in the connection isn't great anyways the tabs are very small IMO this set has nothing on Hercules and you can see how the extra money is spent

YEAH!

Ok got an update I got my crane and dump truck to connect I was actually doing it wrong when you put yours together you will probably see what I was doing. But that makes me feel a lot better about my set but the left arm still doesn't connect very well the right arm is great

Hotrodimust wrote:

craggy wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:I just got my set b in and I'm highly disappointed my left arm port sucks every time I move the arm it pops out and the left connection tab to connect Crane and dump truck won't insert into the little whole I tried pushing it in with a small object but the tab is as far over as it can go and even if it did go in the connection isn't great anyways the tabs are very small IMO this set has nothing on Hercules and you can see how the extra money is spent

YEAH!

Ok got an update I got my crane and dump truck to connect I was actually doing it wrong when you put yours together you will probably see what I was doing. But that makes me feel a lot better about my set but the left arm still doesn't connect very well the right arm is great

Ok got the left arm to go in good to there is a small button you have to push to release the arm but if yo press it to insert the arm it goes in better but in the instruction they only say to press the button to remove. So honestly IMO giant is turning out to be really nice I mean I love my herc but the shoulder articulation is superior on giant. We are gonna get some nice poses as long as the leg come out just the same

Hotrodimust wrote:Ok got the left arm to go in good to there is a small button you have to push to release the arm but if yo press it to insert the arm it goes in better but in the instruction they only say to press the button to remove. So honestly IMO giant is turning out to be really nice I mean I love my herc but the shoulder articulation is superior on giant. We are gonna get some nice poses as long as the leg come out just the same

Phew - you had me worried there. I have a lot of respect for the 'early adopter' pioneers who have to deal with QC issues on initial runs. Although it does seem that maketoys are good about remedying problems (as are the other reputable 3rd parties)