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As for the name discrepancies, that's how they were presented to me so that's how I'm reporting them.

Prime is not a good enough show to warrant getting American first edition, Japanese color first edition, Japanese regular edition, and RiD versions of the characters. (especially Cliffjumper - he dies in the first episode!)
And FE toys have seriously become more trouble than they are worth.
I don't understand why a flagship line like this has had such a difficult time coming together and why (nearly) all the FE's are being re-molded. It is frustrating and detrimental to the product name.
Speaking for myself, Prime will be not much more than a footnote in my collection, represented only the few per-ordered RiD toy's I paid for back in November, or any bot's I happen to catch on clearance.

loving all this "news" but pre-orders are mostly worthless without seeing what the toys are actually like.

Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Mkall wrote:Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Gotta get the more iconic characters out first.

Mkall wrote:Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Are we sure that the powers-hat-be haven't decided to rename him "Dreadwing"? Or "Dreadwind"? I mean, it's not like we've seen them all together in a room at the same time....

(I also wonder when "Darkwing" is going to join the party? )

metaphorge wrote:

Mkall wrote:Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Are we sure that the powers-hat-be haven't decided to rename him "Dreadwing"? Or "Dreadwind"? I mean, it's not like we've seen them all together in a room at the same time....

(I also wonder when "Darkwing" is going to join the party? )

Nonsense. Skyquake was in the cartoon, voiced by Richard Green.



And we've seen the prototype.



Dreadwing, however, has not appeared yet, being confirmed for season 2, and to be voiced by Tony Todd.

maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

craggy wrote:maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

We saw him alongside the proto of Voyager Starscream, who has Powerizer aspects built into him. Since skyquake was seen along with him, it makes since for Skyquake to also be a Powerizer.

yeah, I noticed what appear to be clear parts on Skyquake's arms there. I hope they're pink, and that they make his sword light up. That'd actually be pretty badass and fitting with his original toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

metaphorge wrote:

Mkall wrote:Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Are we sure that the powers-hat-be haven't decided to rename him "Dreadwing"? Or "Dreadwind"? I mean, it's not like we've seen them all together in a room at the same time....

(I also wonder when "Darkwing" is going to join the party? )

Nonsense. Skyquake was in the cartoon, voiced by Richard Green.

http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/4/4f/SkyquakePrime.jpg

And we've seen the prototype.

http://www.seibertron.com/images/events/189/r_sdcc-2011-hasbro-panel-035.jpg

Dreadwing, however, has not appeared yet, being confirmed for season 2, and to be voiced by Tony Todd.

You are assuming, of course, that Prime is going to stick to its "no reuse/recolors of character models" pledge and that Dreadwin$ will not be a prepaint of Skyquake's mold.

It seems strange that we haven't seen any solicits for a Voyager jet mold (that is not Starscream) that we've seen as a nearly-complete proto and have gotten solicits for another Voyager jet mold (that is also not Starscream), though stranger things have happened.

metaphorge wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

metaphorge wrote:

Mkall wrote:Whatever happened to Voyager Skyquake?

Are we sure that the powers-hat-be haven't decided to rename him "Dreadwing"? Or "Dreadwind"? I mean, it's not like we've seen them all together in a room at the same time....

(I also wonder when "Darkwing" is going to join the party? )

Nonsense. Skyquake was in the cartoon, voiced by Richard Green.

http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/4/4f/SkyquakePrime.jpg

And we've seen the prototype.

http://www.seibertron.com/images/events/189/r_sdcc-2011-hasbro-panel-035.jpg

Dreadwing, however, has not appeared yet, being confirmed for season 2, and to be voiced by Tony Todd.

You are assuming, of course, that Prime is going to stick to its "no reuse/recolors of character models" pledge and that Dreadwin$ will not be a prepaint of Skyquake's mold.

It seems strange that we haven't seen any solicits for a Voyager jet mold (that is not Starscream) that we've seen as a nearly-complete proto and have gotten solicits for another Voyager jet mold (that is also not Starscream), though stranger things have happened.

You were suggesting that Skyquake's toy got a name change, which is what I was refuting.

Sabrblade wrote:You were suggesting that Skyquake's toy got a name change, which is what I was refuting.

I was suggesting that perhaps the Voyager prototype we saw referred to as "Skyquake" will see release as "Darkwing" (or "Darkwind," dependant upon whether Kapow or BBTS made the typo on their preorders), which is a similar, but not identical, statement.

Perhaps we will see a relative downpour of different Decepticon Voyager jets in the Prime line, but that doesn't line up with Hasbro's modus operandi in the past (If you'll remember, the reason Universe Galvatron is a Deluxe was to avoid having too many similarly-sized Decpticon tanks on the market all at once); I'm having trouble remembering the last time we saw more than one Voyager jet on the market simultaneously.

In any case I'll be thrilled to be incorrect. ;D

Airachnid =3

I guess it wasn't exactly simultaneous, but Animated had two Voyager jets: Starscream & Blitzwing.

I'm pretty sure Skyquake is going to be a Powerizer, because you can see the transparent plastic in his arms. It's just integrated a lot better than Prime& Starscream's.

metaphorge wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Rumble eh? Wouldn't it be a sick joke if it was the HFTD scout mold and they just packaged and sold it as a deluxe?

Actually that would be awesome; it would be nice to be able to get that mold for less than eight times the American retail price for a Scout.

At the rate we're going, Deluxes will be about the size of Scouts in a year or two anyway:

Haha, yeah probably. It would be nice, I'd still be kinda miffed to be paying deluxe price for a scout, but at least it's better than not having it at all, which is my current situation.

metaphorge wrote:

Luscanun wrote:I assume Ironhide will be a Ratchet repaint/redeco?

Not if it matches the Cyberverse version:

Nice, I'd love a bigger version of that!

Edit: Waitaminute...I'm seeing similarities with movie Ironhide there. I really hope he's more of a G1 homage. If they want to give him the character of Bayverse 'Hide, okay, just as long as he's red.

Aside from the realy dumb ways Hasbro is handling it, this is still shaping up to be a really great line. The only ones I'm really unimpressed by so far are Powerizer Prime & Revealer Ratchet. I don't know where I'm going to find the space to display them all!

metaphorge wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Rumble eh? Wouldn't it be a sick joke if it was the HFTD scout mold and they just packaged and sold it as a deluxe?

Actually that would be awesome; it would be nice to be able to get that mold for less than eight times the American retail price for a Scout.

At the rate we're going, Deluxes will be about the size of Scouts in a year or two anyway:

That picture is very misleading. If you look at them straight on from above, RID Cliffjumper is way closer to the FE version in size than it is to Windcharger, who is large for a scout anyway. Check out Peaugh's review for proof.

nice, and just watch them fu*k up the new bulkhead mold. i dont know why they just use the FE molds. idiots.

This line is looking and sounding pretty great. Some may be small, but for the most part, they look to be in pretty good scale with one another. The FE versions look to be out of scale with RID and at this point I'll just forget about them. Hope to see a voyager Ultra Magnus soon.

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:That picture is very misleading. If you look at them straight on from above, RID Cliffjumper is way closer to the FE version in size than it is to Windcharger, who is large for a scout anyway. Check out Peaugh's review for proof.

Both Prime Cliffjumpers are kind of dinky compared to earlier Deluxes in car mode, though a portion of that is probably because Cliffjumper would be a fairly large (and long) car if he were real.

My United Jazz is making FE Cliffjumper look tiny when they're parked side-by-side. I should pull out Cybertron Overdrive or his Big Daddy repaint for the sake of comparison, since their alt-modes are a similar type of car as Cliffjumper's.

craggy wrote:maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

If you look at the pre-image of skyquakes voyager, his cockpit piece is clear (of course) and it looks like part of his forearms are translucent plastic as well

kirbenvost wrote:

metaphorge wrote:

Luscanun wrote:I assume Ironhide will be a Ratchet repaint/redeco?

Not if it matches the Cyberverse version:

Nice, I'd love a bigger version of that!

Edit: Waitaminute...I'm seeing similarities with movie Ironhide there. I really hope he's more of a G1 homage. If they want to give him the character of Bayverse 'Hide, okay, just as long as he's red.

Aside from the realy dumb ways Hasbro is handling it, this is still shaping up to be a really great line. The only ones I'm really unimpressed by so far are Powerizer Prime & Revealer Ratchet. I don't know where I'm going to find the space to display them all!

Whered you find these images, 'hides my favorite

Hypershock wrote:Whered you find these images, 'hides my favorite

I don't remember where I initially saw a picture of the slide, but I found this one to repost the picture using Google image search. I believe this was taken at Hasbro's presentation at last year's NYCC, though it might have been at SDCC or Botcon.

Hypershock wrote:

craggy wrote:maybe Skyquake was a first edition prototype, that they're only going to show you pictures of once, and never release!

If you look at the pre-image of skyquakes voyager, his cockpit piece is clear (of course) and it looks like part of his forearms are translucent plastic as well

a)I already did before I posted that, b)it's already been pointed out in the thread and c)it was clearly a joke, which I'm not going to explain if you didn't get it the first or 2nd time around.

Doubledealer93 wrote:nice, and just watch them fu*k up the new bulkhead mold. i dont know why they just use the FE molds. idiots.

the only reason I can think is that maybe the FE molds are too expensive to keep making? Maybe someone at Hasbro made a mistake, and everyone else down the line went with it, until eventually someone said "hey, wait a minute, these are costing us $2 to make here, we can't afford these! hey, hey, jimmy, go get me some stripped down, cut up and nonsensical versions of these guys, quick!"

While I love the fact that hasbro is really expanding this line at a tremendous rate, pictures and approximate release dates would go a long way. The rest of the line seems to be taking forever to show up anywhere and at this rate we won't see these figures until about 2014.