The Energon Pub

Those are some excellent digibashes bud, Cop-Tur is top notch! I always thought he was a fun figure, and had an eerie presence in the cartoon.

Hey it's back! Who'd you use as a base for Cy-kill(or is it original)? The design looks very Robo-techish, and I originally thought you used the model kit design(which was a repackaged Robotech model), but it doesnt' fit:



And for the heck of it, Leader-1's model:



The backstory's sounding better and better too .

This thread has really survived for a long time, it's easily the most successful GoBot thread. Perhaps now really is the time for old sterotypes to be shed, and the Universes to embrace each other.

lanzajr26 wrote:Those are some excellent digibashes bud, Cop-Tur is top notch! I always thought he was a fun figure, and had an eerie presence in the cartoon.

Thanks very much for the compliments!:grin: Yeah i always loved cop-Tur.. when i was a kid, I had the toy and just loved the design, and I always liked how in the cartoon of Gobots he'd walk in slow motion towards his victim and the camera with his copter blade twirling in his hand as if to cut you down!! it was very dramatic and cool at the same time and evoked a "Disney's the Blackhole" the movie memory..I wonder how easy it'd be to kitbash th original toy's head on Energon Quickstrike's body and repaint him???

Duke of Luns wrote:Hey it's back! Who'd you use as a base for Cy-kill(or is it original)? The design looks very Robo-techish, and I originally thought you used the model kit design(which was a repackaged Robotech model), but it doesnt' fit:



And for the heck of it, Leader-1's model:



The backstory's sounding better and better too .

This thread has really survived for a long time, it's easily the most successful GoBot thread. Perhaps now really is the time for old sterotypes to be shed, and the Universes to embrace each other.

actually that model is based off the new Yamato toy of the Garland from some series in Japan who was also used and incorporate into the Robotech verse.. it's pretty cool looking, and really plays up the Cybertronian cycle detail I was working into the idea of how the concept would fit into the Transformers universe.. if done in toys, I could see Cykill still being a Cybertron motorcycle, because he hates earth vehicles.. so his Henchmen do his dirty work and also are made to reformat into earth modes..plus is Cybertronain cyle could be mistaken as a Earth concept motor cycle design.. either way it's a cool concept.. he's fast and furious, while megatron is cold and calculatingly evil..

thanks for the support, I'm glad you liked the update to the mythos ideas.. it makes it simple for them to be added.. and yeah I have always wanted this type of idea to come about, I guess it just took me time to formulate the plans behind the designs..still i hope this thread survives a bit longer and revives people's interest and changes those stereotypes of the Gobots in Transformers mythos, since Hasbro now owns the characters, they should really do them justice with adding them into a toyline for us old school fans as well as new generations of fans to get a cool CyKill or Cop-Tur figure..

thanks again for your support and compliments.

wait till yo see what i got planned for Leader-1 and Turbo!! it's awesome!! Oh and in my fanfiction, Leader-1 was taught and trained by Starsaber before he left cybertron..and the Autobots have seekers too, only they ended up out in spac seeking energon or gobotron as Guardians enforcing the prisoners.. cool huh?



here's the classic Cykill looking a little better then before..

I'm telling you uys they should really do this idea.. make the Gobots characters that they own into a sub faction of the Autobots and Decepticons, and place them in the Animated series.. those toys would be easy to produce and probably very cool looking.. and they could introduce those characters to that new fanbase demographic without fears of older entrenched fans of the old school eras getting their Gobot hatred on.. like in the 80's rivalries..what do you guys think??


Sorry i've been away for awhile... on Deviant At...trying to start my own comics company with a few other guys..

Skywarp-2, Hasbro should put you in charge of coming up with repaint ideas. Those Gobot ideas are a lot stronger than the sort of thing they usually cook up. And hey... Welcome Back!

The idea of folding Gobots into the Transformer universe could be a lot of fun. Of course growing up, I hated Gobots, but had quite a few of them. From an adult perspective, I can appreciate the toys every bit as much as many G1 transformers. As robots go, they at least managed to come up with some distinctive, recognizable designs.

Not a bad idea at all, though there's probably more fun to be had mocking them and mining the old Gobot hatred than treating the characters reverentially. Play them up as the dorks of the Transformer world.

I disagree with any joint Gobot/transformers universe they should remain separate as they don't work together.

I have seen and own the entire gobot episode there little difference between that and the 80's transformers cartoon. The gobots was quite heavily political due to the set up of the guardians. The renegades were viewed as a more of a terrorist group rather than an opposing faction which is the chase of the transformers.

Autobots are everyday folk and maintenance bot fighting to save there freedoms from a military rule.

Guardians are the military and a politically organised group that have elected individuals as there piers.

Decepticons are a military run organisation that wishes to oppress everything and everyone but like all military run party there is constant inner bickery and want for self power.

Renegades are united terrorist group that have the ideals that one should rule with ultimate power of all with no need of a government (much like when a King used to rule a country)

the personal relationship between L-1 and CK is much closer than that of OP and Megs who are literally just enemies with little or no k=joint past. L-1 and CK were brothers in arms against a common foe but CK opinion and jealously took hold and he united the Renegades into a force to be reckoned with more political ideals. Instead of the Megatrons bland 'I will conquer the universe' plan.

My point is if you were to combine the universes it would ultimately spoil what was set up in the 84 Gobots cartoon and get change and convoluted. The Gobots from 84 should remain intact and untouched.

If Hasbro do wish to create a Leader-1 of there own I would like him to be a completely different character to what was portrayed in the original. But with a name like leader-1 should he be an underling to Optimus Prime reading such things would look/sound daft.

I’ve often thought that Leader-1 is more of a title and not his real name.

Wow...nice digi-bash's skywarp-2! I have to admit, I was never a fan of the Go-Bots however, if I seen them at retail and they were repaints/re-molds of TF toys I might have to pick em up. Love the digi-bash.

What if a network did a big-budget (by TV standards) Go-Bots movie. The SciFi channel does a lot of HORRIBLE movies; but every so often they put the time and money into making a decent movie or miniseries. I'd like to see something like that happen (even if the alterior motive is just to cash in on the recent TF appeal). If BBC can do a weekly show with reasonable effects (Primevil)surely some network can manage a two hour (really just 90 min.) TV movie with limited bot screen time and only a few bots (to save money).

Skipping over some pages of text.

Rocklords? .... no. Even when I was a kid, I just couldn't see the point of them.

But Go-Bots in general? I suppose I wouldn't mind seeing them again. Here and there. Like a repaint of a TF as Cy-kill and Leader-1. I have the old Super Leader-1 toy and it was better than Starscream. No undercarrage junk at all, AND it transforms into a robot.

Cy-kill, I am less fond of. His motocycle mode is not believable at all.

I was never too much into the cartoon. I liked TFs and I saw Go-bots as cheap alternatives, but I only ever bought Super Leader-1 and Cy-kill.

I can't see the Go-bots ever making a return. The characters names were too corny and the mythos too similar to TFs. As a seperate property, I don't think it'd work.

But I wouldn't mind seeing some Go-bots in the Classics line. We have Botcon's Bug Bite. And Fracture from the 07 movie line was supposed to be Crasher. Not as anything "special", just as Autobots or Decepticons. I wouldn't mind seeing some of them get their own unique mold. And I don't see any particular obsticle to it. If HasTak can make Classics Jetfire, why not a new Leader-1? Unless they don't own the likeness rights from the old cartoon; if they don't own that then ... may as well forget it and stick to hoping for repaints.

Of all the Go Bots, though, I only got the two leader, so they'd be the only characters I'd really want if they started to make unique-mold Go Bot homages.

Bumblethumper wrote:Skywarp-2, Hasbro should put you in charge of coming up with repaint ideas. Those Gobot ideas are a lot stronger than the sort of thing they usually cook up. And hey... Welcome Back!

thanks man! Sorry took so long for me to respond back on this thread.. I forgot about it, it had been so long..but I do thank you for the compliment, and as for repaint ideas.. I still think Hasbro has a win on their hands to redeco the Mirage from classics, with a new female head sculpt and call her Crasher! that would be easy to do! I think Crasher could sport a Decepticon symbol quite nicely..

Bumblethumper wrote:The idea of folding Gobots into the Transformer universe could be a lot of fun. Of course growing up, I hated Gobots, but had quite a few of them. From an adult perspective, I can appreciate the toys every bit as much as many G1 transformers. As robots go, they at least managed to come up with some distinctive, recognizable designs.

Not a bad idea at all, though there's probably more fun to be had mocking them and mining the old Gobot hatred than treating the characters reverentially. Play them up as the dorks of the Transformer world.

yeah, see that aspect that allot of people take befuddles me.. to me, the Gobots were very much a part of my childhood. I had Transformers, and Gobots.. honestly, the gobots were cheaper so id id get more of them then the expensive transformers of that time.. and as a kid who couldn't get the newest figure like my friends down the block.. I had to settle for the Gobots figures I could get.. and believe me some of the coolest battles I had were between Leader One and Cykill! that said, i always had a soft spot for them, and always wondered how Leader One could fit into the original mythos.. and how maybe he was the trainer or leader of the aerial bots before the great war on cybertron, and maybe he trained skyfire..With all the weird crossover stuff going on, and such, it doesn't seem that unreasonable for Hasbro to throw us Gobot fans a figure here and there in Universe that looks like a classics updated version of a 1980's Gobot..

Coptur wrote:I disagree with any joint Gobot/transformers universe they should remain separate as they don't work together.

I have seen and own the entire gobot episode there little difference between that and the 80's transformers cartoon. The gobots was quite heavily political due to the set up of the guardians. The renegades were viewed as a more of a terrorist group rather than an opposing faction which is the chase of the transformers.

Autobots are everyday folk and maintenance bot fighting to save there freedoms from a military rule.

Guardians are the military and a politically organised group that have elected individuals as there piers.

Decepticons are a military run organisation that wishes to oppress everything and everyone but like all military run party there is constant inner bickery and want for self power.

Renegades are united terrorist group that have the ideals that one should rule with ultimate power of all with no need of a government (much like when a King used to rule a country)

the personal relationship between L-1 and CK is much closer than that of OP and Megs who are literally just enemies with little or no k=joint past. L-1 and CK were brothers in arms against a common foe but CK opinion and jealously took hold and he united the Renegades into a force to be reckoned with more political ideals. Instead of the Megatrons bland 'I will conquer the universe' plan.

My point is if you were to combine the universes it would ultimately spoil what was set up in the 84 Gobots cartoon and get change and convoluted. The Gobots from 84 should remain intact and untouched.

If Hasbro do wish to create a Leader-1 of there own I would like him to be a completely different character to what was portrayed in the original. But with a name like leader-1 should he be an underling to Optimus Prime reading such things would look/sound daft.

I’ve often thought that Leader-1 is more of a title and not his real name.

See I disagree with you.. I understand the differences between the series, and the differences with Leader 1 and cykill's relationship.. I understand for Gobots fans that combining the two universes is as much a problem as it is for Transformers fans..

But lets face it..

Gobots died off and all we got left with was Transformers..I for one don't like the idea that the 84 Gobots characters are never going to be realized as new figures and given the chance to become a kids favorite toy again.. or even a new favorite for an old Gobots fan.. to simply let the series lay just because the idea of the Gobots meshing with the transformers isn't feasible to the original concept doesn't work for me..the 1984 series will always be there..

but to update a new twist on the original series, My idea was to have the Gobots as the forgotten "Guardians" or security officers of the planet Gobatron, which was a deep space maximum security prison, where the renegades were kept from long before the great war.. and somehow they escaped.. and it is up to the Guardians to retrieve them..

the Renegades, were escaped convicts from back before the great war, and thus explains allot about cykill and his "Gang" versus Megatron and his warriors..Cykill is more of like a thug leader in this universe version, and has more of mischief and mayhem planned..heists, and criminal activities, versus the political agenda stuff..this dynamic makes him much more ruthless and cunning, because his criminal plans can always come about as successes..without ruining the balance of power in the battles..

Like wise, leader 1 and company could also be like jailers, who come to get the ancient gang of renegades back to cybertron's deep space prison, of Gobatron..kinda like how they did Depth charge as a bounty hunter in search of an experiment gone wrong..Protoform X AKA Rampage..

so take that concept and just elaborate on it, and boom, instant new characters and story content for the transformers universe...

OPTIMUS MAGNUS wrote:Wow...nice digi-bash's skywarp-2! I have to admit, I was never a fan of the Go-Bots however, if I seen them at retail and they were repaints/re-molds of TF toys I might have to pick em up. Love the digi-bash.

Wow thanks! they are kinda outdated to what I can do now..but maybe I'll find some newer images I can modify that would make a great cykill and such, what my goal is, is to have a classics universe version of these long forgotten characters.. or maybe even suggest that some of the great toy modders on here can give us pointers on how Hasbro could easily do some minor stuff and release some Gobots on us.. that would rock!! I just miss some of those characters, and their iconic looks.. that could be updated and would make us Gobots fans proud..

Demonicus wrote:What if a network did a big-budget (by TV standards) Go-Bots movie. The SciFi channel does a lot of HORRIBLE movies; but every so often they put the time and money into making a decent movie or miniseries. I'd like to see something like that happen (even if the alterior motive is just to cash in on the recent TF appeal). If BBC can do a weekly show with reasonable effects (Primevil)surely some network can manage a two hour (really just 90 min.) TV movie with limited bot screen time and only a few bots (to save money).

as cool as that would be, i seriously doubt anyone would even want to do it.. there just aren't that many people out there aware of how cool, some (not all) but some of the Gobots era ideas really were..and if not for the Gobots, the legends class of transformers and even the minicons would not be as popular or cool as they are considered today..I think if they were to realistically look at this as a form of entertainment, it would end up being a sub race in a newer transformers cartoon.. which would ba cool with me, atleast then we'd get some new figures!!


Wow, I am astonished at how long this thread has run.. it has to be the longest and most interesting Gobots thread ever.. I am even amazed at the interest in this concept and idea.. and I would hope Hasbro finally takes a notice and interest themselves..

All i think we would need is just 6 figures.. that is all, just 6..

Guardians:
Leader One: Gobatron head security officer, and pu in charge of defending Gobatron (maximum Security outpost) and maintaining that sector of Cybertronian space..
Turbo: Turbo was Leader-1's right hand Gobot, and one of the toughest Guardians. His car mode is shown to be one of the fastest of the Gobots.
Scooter: was the Guardians’ resident inventor. He was highly intelligent, and equipped with an array of equipment that allowed him to hack into computers and the like. Scooter was also equipped with a hologram projector, allowing him to create illusions either to confuse enemies or provide himself with cover. Scooter could be one of those updated Vespas that would be cool..

he doesn't have to be some dorky scooter bike, he can be cool..

Renegades
Cykill: Ruthless Leader of the renegades,a nd criminal Mastermind
Crasher: Super fast and super viscous! Crasher uses her charms to misdirect her enemies as she moves in swiftly for the kill!
Coptur: the elite and wild Coptur, he's a jar-head, and not very bright, but makes up for it in his attitude and strength!!

a cone headed version for this bot would make an excellent coptur!
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... 1571/1/36/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... 1571/1/93/

all he needs is a new paint scheme and a cone head sculpt or taken from another bot.. and he'd be perfect!! though I do kinda prefer my original digibash design, modification of an energon helicopter bot..

skywarp-2 wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:Skywarp-2, Hasbro should put you in charge of coming up with repaint ideas. Those Gobot ideas are a lot stronger than the sort of thing they usually cook up. And hey... Welcome Back!

thanks man! Sorry took so long for me to respond back on this thread.. I forgot about it, it had been so long..but I do thank you for the compliment, and as for repaint ideas.. I still think Hasbro has a win on their hands to redeco the Mirage from classics, with a new female head sculpt and call her Crasher! that would be easy to do! I think Crasher could sport a Decepticon symbol quite nicely..

Actually they already did, though her name is Fracture due to copyright infringement.

Mkall wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:Skywarp-2, Hasbro should put you in charge of coming up with repaint ideas. Those Gobot ideas are a lot stronger than the sort of thing they usually cook up. And hey... Welcome Back!

thanks man! Sorry took so long for me to respond back on this thread.. I forgot about it, it had been so long..but I do thank you for the compliment, and as for repaint ideas.. I still think Hasbro has a win on their hands to redeco the Mirage from classics, with a new female head sculpt and call her Crasher! that would be easy to do! I think Crasher could sport a Decepticon symbol quite nicely..

Actually they already did, though her name is Fracture due to copyright infringement.

don't they own the names and the rights to the Gobots?

Though the Tonka toyline was idle for many years, following Hasbro's acquisition of Tonka, Kenner and the GoBots intellectual property, the GoBots universe has slowly but steadily bled into mainstream Transformers in a wide variety of ways.

* Hasbro first put the newly acquired trademark to use on the Generation 2 Color-Changer figure Gobots in 1993, then again (albeit in hyphenated form) on a Generation 2 subline titled Go-Bots in 1995.

* The most prominent GoBots-specific reference, beyond use of the brand name itself, came in the form of the Armada Mini-Con Leader-1, who was under the control of Megatron and shares his name with the leader of the heroic Guardian GoBots.

* At one point, Unicron's Mini-Con Dead End was going to be called "Gobotron", in reference to the home planet of the GoBots. The idea, however, was ultimately discarded.

got this from Wiki:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tonka_Go-Bots

GAH! Zombie thread! Kill it with fire!

If Hasbro were to actually do anything with Gobots, it would just be absorbed and mentioned once. Like Matt Trakker from MASK being retconed into GIJoe as an experimental weapons specialist. So the real queastion becomes what TF can be repainted into Leader-1?

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Skipping over some pages of text.

Rocklords? .... no. Even when I was a kid, I just couldn't see the point of them.

But Go-Bots in general? I suppose I wouldn't mind seeing them again. Here and there. Like a repaint of a TF as Cy-kill and Leader-1. I have the old Super Leader-1 toy and it was better than Starscream. No undercarrage junk at all, AND it transforms into a robot.

Cy-kill, I am less fond of. His motocycle mode is not believable at all.

yeah, I liked Rocklords back in the day, of course I was like 9! But it had some cool applications to that of He-Man..and maybe even Visionaries...

Anyways, I remember those large sized Gobots! Man i wish i had kept mine! the whole concept, though outweighed by Transformers, was pretty cool.. Matchbox cars and Planes that transformed.. and small too, so you could have a whole huge army and play, with diecast, and chrome too!! but the larger ones were awesome as well. Had a more realistic feel to it..

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I was never too much into the cartoon. I liked TFs and I saw Go-bots as cheap alternatives, but I only ever bought Super Leader-1 and Cy-kill.

I can't see the Go-bots ever making a return. The characters names were too corny and the mythos too similar to TFs. As a seperate property, I don't think it'd work.

Actually their names have popped up more then you may realize..(I was even surprised at how many names have made their way in!) 2 recent Gobots names and figures that have crept into the Transformers Universe are listed below..as it also answers a comment I have for zodconvoy I wish I had more instances to sight in this response.. sorry..

Gauntlet101010 wrote:But I wouldn't mind seeing some Go-bots in the Classics line. We have Botcon's Bug Bite. And Fracture from the 07 movie line was supposed to be Crasher. Not as anything "special", just as Autobots or Decepticons. I wouldn't mind seeing some of them get their own unique mold. And I don't see any particular obsticle to it. If HasTak can make Classics Jetfire, why not a new Leader-1? Unless they don't own the likeness rights from the old cartoon; if they don't own that then ... may as well forget it and stick to hoping for repaints.

Of all the Go Bots, though, I only got the two leader, so they'd be the only characters I'd really want if they started to make unique-mold Go Bot homages.

I think that Fracture is a nice figure, and sure she may suppose to be Crasher, but she in no way looks like Crasher.. close, but not deco-ed correctly..although what i do like is that fracture has the potential to be the twin sister of Crasher, and thereby creating a duo of terror!!


Hmmmmmm... crasher and Fracture.. that sounds good together..

zodconvoy wrote:GAH! Zombie thread! Kill it with fire!

Hey I thought that was the point of why allot of newer threads get locked... is because we are supposed to use "Zombie Threads"

The interest in this subject is pretty huge, and even I am surprised by it..like every so often this thread comes back..

I think people want to truly see a reborn version of some of the classic Gobots characters..I know I do. If nothing else, but as a homage to the old line, and the character themselves..

zodconvoy wrote:If Hasbro were to actually do anything with Gobots, it would just be absorbed and mentioned once.

Not so my friend.. they actually have been spurting out Gobots related stuff for years.. just not the way we as fans would have liked.. here is the two most recent Gobots homages (if you can call it that)..

In 1991, Hasbro took over Tonka, and thus the Gobot trademarks; the molds for the action figures remain the property of Bandai, having only been leased to Tonka, and some were reissued in 1993 for the European Robo Machines line. Since then, these have been used several times – a character called Gobots was released in 1993, a range of figures in 1995 were called the Go-Bots, and Hasbro subsidiary Playskool issued a line named Transformers: Gobots in 2002. To this date there have been a few exclusives referencing GoBots, but they have all been recolors of other Transformer molds as opposed to new figures.



http://rooktopia.wordpress.com/2007/08/ ... should-be/

A couple of the Gobots have, in fact, made the leap to the Transformers continuum, albeit in completely different forms.

Leader-1, the Gobot Guardian: The fine upstanding leader of the Guardians. He transforms into a sleek F-15 Strike Eagle, and he speaks with such wisdom that his voice echoes. Also, you know he’s the leader because it’s right there in his name.


Leader-1, the Transformer Minicon: In an inglorious twist, Leader-1 is enslaved and is forced to lend his powers to Megatron. Homage or insult? You be the judge. Quite possibly Leader-1’s most embarassing moment.

Bug Bite, Gobot Renegade: I haven’t seen the episode he’s in, but it’s some sort of story where he and another Renegade, Gunnyr, believe that they’re the only inhabitants on Gobotron. That is, until the Guardians kick their butts. Not his most glorious moment.

Bug Bite, Transformer Decepticon: Bug Bite gets a huge upgrade. He’s now sort of an evil Bumblebee, but now from an alternate dimension whose existence is threatened by events in the Transformers universe. He plots to take revenge, and at one point has the Decepticons under his control. Unfortunately, he gets his head blown off by Megatron. Still, that’s no small potatoes for a Gobot. Hooray, Bug Bite! (In this version, by the way, the Gobots are organic humans that had their bodies replaced by machinery. Nifty.)

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Like Matt Trakker from MASK being retconed into GIJoe as an experimental weapons specialist. So the real queastion becomes what TF can be repainted into Leader-1?

See I don't mind that aspect at all.. I narrowed down 2 possibly great repaint molds.. one would require a new head..
Coptur:


and you saw the repaint for fracture into Crasher..

but other then that the Leader One bot doesn't have too many choices and neither does Cykill.. all of the figures to date kinda suck for repaints.. however Machine Wars Skywarp is a close contender for Leader-1..


Not bad..



On a side note, i can't wait for the IGEAR Autobot Ark Base playset!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YGIef0OTJ0

It's back again! Anyway, tfu.info has recently been updating their stuff, and they mentioned something interestesting in one of these updates:

ROTF Reverb:
http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Reverb/reverb.htm

bears a certain resemblence to Renegade Dart:
http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Dart/dart.htm

Intentional or not, that's another member of the TF GoBots cast!

And oddly enough, I too have been thinking of a GoBot's movie. If done right, it could be a respectable movie.