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by **alzabanur** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:53 am

Jazz and Shockwave are a must. But Prime and Ultra even they are an easy pass my experience tells me get them and wait for and upgrade from 3rd Party

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:03 pm

Good point. Design wise, I think these may be the best cards we've ever had. The figure is HUGE and really pops off the page. Bravo Hasbro.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:12 pm

Bleh, Jazz looks so bland, but I will still buy him because he's a favorite. I also have a plan to do some part-swapping with Sideswipe now that I know they're based on the same mold.

by **Dean ML** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:19 pm

I'm impressed with Shockwave but he doesn't fit in my collection due to scale. I'd kill to have him done in leader class.

News Credits: 16 · by **Che** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:20 pm

Lord Onixprime wrote:Edit: Hold on, these are already at a $15 dollar price point!?! Yeah, not collecting this line at all now. What makes these $3 dollars more than the Prime figures?

LOL, sad no?
I also saw that, prices are going up while quality is becoming... sometimes... questinable... especially if you pay attention to some details beyond the overall aesthetics. I don't know if it is just me, but compared to older lines, since DOTM plastic of some figures doesn't feel quite the same (thinner?) and some voyagers are coming with ball joints for shoulders and hips. It's already not that easy to pay more for the same, but it's even harder to pay more for less...

gothsaurus wrote:Good point. Design wise, I think these may be the best cards we've ever had. The figure is HUGE and really pops off the page. Bravo Hasbro.

I respect that, but I confess I don't get why package is so important for some fans '=P. I wouldn't care less and if HasTak had to save some costs, I would say "just sell me some of them loose" :grin:

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:23 pm

Like I said before I will maintain not picking up Shocky until I see what Takara has to offer. The waiting may go something like this... 8-}

.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:24 pm

Definitely some shrinkage from WfC, though I think Shockwave may be roughly the same height.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:25 pm

Haaa. Yeah, I'd buy some loose too, but I'm sure the general kid audience never would.

I'm mostly just responding to how BIG the art is on the card... instead of a far off robot, we have a right-up-in-your-face robot. Very nice. Heh.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:26 pm

from what ive read here these guys are almost scout size but are being sold for $15, please for the love of god boycott this line this madness has to end. Just remember if no one buys em they will go on clearance and be a realistic price.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:26 pm

Yikes. Well, at least it allows Megatron to look impressive next tot he rest of them.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:29 pm

Agreed. Placing the cars next to Megs will look nice and kinda in scale.

(heh. Scale!? what's that!?)

Like korisifu on Facebook · by **korisifu** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:30 pm

To spin it in a positive aspect, if you have the WFC figures, Megatron and Optimus will be in scale with Jazz and Sideswipe. Possibly even the seekers. Magnus and Shockwave will be smaller than Bumblebee and Cliffjumper

by **Court Jester** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:32 pm

Either those are huge bubbles and cards or these are puny deluxes... >:oP

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:40 pm

Knowing there is a Voyager Soundwave coming, I'm hoping to goodness they rectify things with some larger leader and seeker bots. Else, it's going to be an odd shelf...

Soundwave dwarfing everyone, and Bumblebee being bigger than Shockwave, Jazz, and Sideswipe.

Surely someone at Hasbro is thinking about this stuff and losing sleep trying to make it right.

News Credits: 1 · by **Erailea** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:42 pm

You know, wasn't WFC Megs on the same scale DOTM deluxes? So does that make these smaller FOC deluxes the same size as the Prime figures? Because, if I remember right, Prime figs are smaller than normal too (I'm not home right now and I'm drawing a blank of sizes. I just remember the complaints when the the line first started appearing)

News Credits: 16 · by **Che** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:44 pm

korisifu wrote:To spin it in a positive aspect, if you have the WFC figures, Megatron and Optimus will be in scale with Jazz and Sideswipe. Possibly even the seekers. Magnus and Shockwave will be smaller than Bumblebee and Cliffjumper

Magnus and Shockwave smaller than Bumblebee and Cliffjumper...
...
#-o

The positive doesn't help much :lol:

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:50 pm

maybe they'll put out a new Bumblebee a bit smaller.

okay, thinking about the last 5 years.... I'm relatively SURE they'll put out another Bumblebee with this line. LOL. (remembers the last 5 toy lines in a wash of yellow and black)

by **orangeitis** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:56 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Soundwave dwarfing everyone

He can't be THAT big. With Voyagers being smaller than old Voyagers combined with him having almost Minicon-sized pack-ins, he's probably just gonna be a bulky WFC Soundwave.

Plus, he don't look that big, IMO.

gothsaurus wrote:maybe they'll put out a new Bumblebee a bit smaller.

I'm personally hoping for a Scout-class 'Bee.

They'll have Voyagers and Legions, so why not?

News Credits: 16 · by **Che** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:01 pm

gothsaurus wrote:maybe they'll put out a new Bumblebee a bit smaller.

Give some time and deluxes will be in scale with the Worlds Smallest Transformers LOL

But they will offer an ultra class transformer magnifying glass =P

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:02 pm

Yeah, Scout class would be perfect. Cripes. They could put out the whole line of minibots as Cybertron mode and I'd snatch them up like they were... I dunno... minicons or something.

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:05 pm

Erailea wrote:You know, wasn't WFC Megs on the same scale DOTM deluxes? So does that make these smaller FOC deluxes the same size as the Prime figures? Because, if I remember right, Prime figs are smaller than normal too (I'm not home right now and I'm drawing a blank of sizes. I just remember the complaints when the the line first started appearing)

Nah, Megs is about on scale with the other Generations figures. He came out during ROTF, before the downsizing. He is quite a bit bulkier than the Classics Seeker mold.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:05 pm

Still... I don't want Soundwave to be the proverbial Bulkhead on my FOC shelf. I'd like to have a voyager size....

Prime
Megatron
Grimlock (oh yeah)
Seekers (taking into account the wingspan, these would be slightly smaller and just right in the lineup)
Shockwave

So point being, if Hasbro put these out as well... I'd buy them too.

News Credits: 9 · by **Hip-Hoptimus Rime** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:15 pm

Wow, super excited for the Fall of Cybertron line. Like everyone else, I’ll be using these to supplement my War for Cybertron/Generations collection. I have the Cybetronian versions of Optimus, Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Megatron, and Soundwave from that line, and the new FoC stuff will fit perfectly. In fact, I am planning on not buying any of the FOC characters I already have from the WFC line. (Who am I kidding, of course I'll buy them.)

A fellow collector pre-ordered an assortment with Optimus, Shockwave, and Jazz, and I bought his Jazz- can't wait!

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:15 pm

You know, if they'd make the card back just big enough to stick the bubble onto and get rid of some of the void space int the package they could cut $4 off each figure, ship more to a case, and put more figures on more pegs. If they are going to reduce the size of the figure, reduce the size of the packaging to save costs too. I'd buy everyone of these without hesitation or a grimace on my face if they came in as minimalist of a package as possible and at a $10-$11 dollar price point.

As it is, if it comes to a decision between these and a handful of Bot Shots or a Prime figure at a lower price point, I'm not choosing the FOC figure.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:24 pm

This all sounds great (to us collectors).... but bottom line to a successful corporation is making money. If they can't grab the kids attention with a GIANT visual (whether a big package OR a big card backer) then they lose out to other toys on the shelves.

SOOOooooo those cards aren't going away any time soon. :-?

I'd still love to see them switching to a resealable version like the Japanese ones. That's still a feasible possibility.

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