The Energon Pub

[Evolution Prime]

I know. I still haven't seen one show up though.

[Wingspan]

I know. I still haven't seen one show up though.

Psychout suggested including the Arena in round 5 for G1 only (like they did in the scalp) to which I asked how it should score. If agreed, beasts would remain unchanged, but some input is still needed.

Let's move the discussion over to the chatter where this discussion began. (Link)

[Psychout]

Score it 1-for-1, mission kills count double?

...I dunno, just throwing ideas out currently.

[Redimus]

I cant see that working very well. If only one side stands to gain from arena bouts, only that side will bother to turn up. Admitedly, there's plenty of billy-no-mates who live in there and dont read the forums or do anything else comunity related...

I know this has been whinged about repeatedly, but surly it'd take OS all of 5 seconds to up the chances of G1 vs beast missions, becuase that's the only real way to get a fair representation in Beast vs G1 tournie right now.

[Editor]

In that entire range I saw a single beast/G1 mission.

[Psychout]

I know this has been whinged about repeatedly...

We've got what we've got until V2 now, that's just the way it is dude.

Its one-on-one rammer combat that will have to decide this.

[Redimus]

Well Im sorry, but the G1 factions can count me off their target list... I dont see why I should go in the arena when they can can claim *any* kill, and I can claimn no kills. If you want this to be in anyway balanced, it has to be all or nothing.

[Psychout]

Oh, dont get me wrong Red, I completely agree with you, I dont think it cant be scored the same way either.

Problem is, the best I can think of right now is that we only count fights between registered charcters on all sides and score it from there, or we start as a full team and have our minions knocked out one by one, but both of those present xp and level problems, althouhg they could be solved by enacting 'weight categories' similar to UFC/boxing etc.

I dunno im still not that keen, can anyone else think of another suggestion?

[Redimus]

Why cant the bots n cons not just bash the crap out of eachother too? The they can have all G1 missions ending with 0 or 5 count as well, and the game is naturally balanced. Sure, a bit or rwwriting is needed in the story, but it makes for a fairer game (and means we can either have cross era missions being worth 2 points for whichever side wins it, or have cross era missions being worth no more than normal missions for both sides).

[Psychout]

That works for me, but considering their frequency I'd figure cross-gen would be worth more than 2.

Wingspan?
Everyone else?

I think I know how this could fit into the story too.

[Wingspan]

I am not tracking missions which lacked opposition these final rounds. Frankly, it's just a little too much

Full mission listings follow, broken up by winners. Other tallies will follow shortly.

Autobot Wins (7)

63365 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Predacon}
63370 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63443 (Autobot) {4 v 1 Predacon}
63580 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63685 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Maximal}
63885 (Autobot) {4 v 4 Predacon}
63984 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Predacon}

Decepticon Wins (3)

63487 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63564 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63822 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Predacon}


Maximal G1 Wins (4)

63388 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63493 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63734 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Autobot}
63841 (Maximal) {4 v 3 Decepticon}


Predacon G1 Wins (2)

63182 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}
63749 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}


Maximal Wins (16)

63075 (Maximal) {2 v 2}
63340 (Maximal) {4 v 3}
63345 (Maximal) {3 v 2}
63410 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63430 (Maximal) {6 v 5}
63465 (Maximal) {6 v 2}
63650 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63670 (Maximal) {4 v 2}
63690 (Maximal) {5 v 6}
63710 (Maximal) {5 v 4}
63720 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63775 (Maximal) {6 v 6}
63800 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63845 (Maximal) {6 v 2}
63910 (Maximal) {4 v 4}
63915 (Maximal) {2 v 2}


Predacon Wins (26)

63015 (Predacon) {6 v 2}
63045 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63070 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63095 (Predacon) {5 v 4}
63145 (Predacon) {6 v 3}
63230 (Predacon) {1 v 3}
63300 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63495 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63510 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63530 (Predacon) {4 v 3}
63600 (Predacon) {4 v 4}
63675 (Predacon) {4 v 4}
63680 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63705 (Predacon) {6 v 6}
63745 (Predacon) {5 v 5}
63780 (Predacon) {6 v 3}
63790 (Predacon) {6 v 4}
63815 (Predacon) {6 v 5}
63820 (Predacon) {6 v 2}
63850 (Predacon) {6 v 5}
63865 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63870 (Predacon) {5 v 2}
63880 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63965 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63985 (Predacon) {2 v 2}
64000 (Predacon) {3 v 3}

[vaporretarder]

Autobot Wins (7)

63365 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Predacon}
63370 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63443 (Autobot) {4 v 1 Predacon}
63580 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63685 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Maximal}
63885 (Autobot) {4 v 4 Predacon}
63984 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Predacon}

Decepticon Wins (3)

63487 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63564 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63822 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Predacon}


Maximal G1 Wins (4)

63388 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63493 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63734 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Autobot}
63841 (Maximal) {4 v 3 Decepticon}


Predacon G1 Wins (2)

63182 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}
63749 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}

DANG!!

I didn't realize there were that many cross missions that actually spawned!

at least I got to get my licks in there though

[Redimus]

Cant say I saw any, then again, I cant say I spent more than 2 hours playing over the whole round.

[Wingspan]

Now that the PEBKAC has been solved... here's the final tallies. Breakdown sheets in the next post.

Round 4 Results

G1 Overall: Autobot
Autobot(10 {7 wins, 3 vs. Maximal}), Decepticon (4 {3 wins, 1 vs. Predacon})

Autobot Champions
Commander: Electron (2 mission wins)
Character: Korona, WindBreaker, Omega Annihilator, Decay (1 mission wins each)
Wasteland Slayer: Electron (3 confirmed stasis locks)

Decepticon Champions
Commander: Chronic, Omega Charge (2 mission wins each)
Character: Hammerstein (2 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: Chronic, Omega Charge (3 confirmed stasis locks each)

Beast Overall: Predacon
Maximal (17 {16 wins, 1 Decepticon vs. Predacon}), Predacon (29 {26 wins, 3 Autobot vs. Maximal})

Maximal Champions
Commander: Zordon (11 mission wins)
Character: Windstalker, Opium (3 mission wins each)
Wasteland Slayer: Zordon (13 confirmed stasis locks)

Predacon Champions
Commander: ChesiredaCat (14 mission wins)
Character: Hellsfury (7 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: ChesiredaCat (24 confirmed stasis locks)

[Wingspan]

G1 Breakdown




Beast Breakdown




Cross-Generational Stasis Confirmation

[CheshiredaCat]

Now that the PEBKAC has been solved... here's the final tallies. Breakdown sheets in the next post.



Predacon Champions
Commander: ChesiredaCat (14 mission wins)
Character: Hellsfury (7 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: ChesiredaCat (24 confirmed stasis locks)

Hazaa!! finally some good results

[Redimus]

I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

[CheshiredaCat]

I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

[Absolute Zero]

AZ was playing RE5 with a buddy.

[Redimus]

I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

NEVAR!

I'd rather admit Burn has nice tits!

[Absolute Zero]

I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

NEVAR!

I'd rather admit Burn has nice tits!

Well, it's true at least. Burn does.