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by **Doubledealer93** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:01 pm

Do these things use 5mm ports and pegs? I wanna get drift for the swords and bulkhead for The guns.

by **mblase75** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:02 pm

Anybody tried to build Autobot X / Autobot Spike out of these things yet? He's always the first thing I think of.

by **Fifo** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:10 pm

More "Transformers" that don't transform! What is the point?!

News Credits: 2 · by **NovaSentinel** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:20 pm

Va'al, I think you may need to take some Maths classes... :lol:

I'm interested to know whether Ultra Magnus, Cliffjumper and Skywarp will be released without their respective arms, or whether they'll be available as parts with each of the larger figures as a collector incentive, similar to the Marvel build figures like Iron Monger.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:32 pm

Doubledealer93 wrote:Do these things use 5mm ports and pegs? I wanna get drift for the swords and bulkhead for The guns.

I second the inquiry

News Credits: 1 · by **Erailea** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:46 pm

Fifo wrote:More "Transformers" that don't transform! What is the point?!

I dunno. Personally I really enjoy the revoltech Transformers figures and they don't transform. These Mashers just look like a dumbed down, less detailed (and cheaper) version of the Revoltechs. 'course I haven't gotten my hands on one to know for sure, but that's what they look like.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:58 pm

Optimizzy wrote:
Doubledealer93 wrote:Do these things use 5mm ports and pegs? I wanna get drift for the swords and bulkhead for The guns.

I second the inquiry

Unfortunately, they don't fit in his hands.

I thought it'd be cool if Drift could hold HM Drift's swords, but alas they aren't compatible.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:31 pm

It's a good concept, but the figures themselves just look cheap as hell. Wouldn't be so bad if they actually took the time to give them better paint detailing.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:39 pm

Mindmaster wrote:It's a good concept, but the figures themselves just look cheap as hell. Wouldn't be so bad if they actually took the time to give them better paint detailing.

Obviously, it all depend of the price point. You get what you pay for.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:10 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:It's a good concept, but the figures themselves just look cheap as hell. Wouldn't be so bad if they actually took the time to give them better paint detailing.

Obviously, it all depend of the price point. You get what you pay for.

Yah, they are what they are. I knew what I was getting when I picked them up. They're basically just Transformers versions of the existing Marvel Hero Mashers.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:48 pm

Tried to like them, and Prime and Megatron look good ... but then along comes Springer who is just plain boring, and the rest ... meh.

They will however, be great for the kids.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:53 pm

If I get any Hero Masters figure, it'll probably be Heatwave.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:54 pm

Sabrblade wrote:If I get any Hero Masters figure, it'll probably be Heatwave.

Yeah, that's probably the only one I'd be willing to go for. I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave. :-?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:57 pm

Mindmaster wrote:I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

It's even got RB Heatwave's Energize dual-nozzle cannon.

Another point of weirdness from the new design team, on top of:

Generations Whirl and Roadbuster based more on their G1 toys and not as updated as other "Classics-style" toys
G2/IDW-esque Generations Jhiaxus colored like the RiD toy.
AOE Evolution 2-Packs using Energon Grimlock and the DOTM dino Mini-Cons
G1 Strafe box art on the AOE Strafe Evolution 2-Pack to represent the G1 Swoop-esque toy
Walmart getting exclusive AOE redecos of Beast Wars molds from over a decade ago
MP Sunstorm not colored like G1 Sunstorm

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:03 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.
It's even got RB Heatwave's Energize dual-nozzle cannon.

Another point of weirdness from the new design team, on top of:
Generations Whirl and Roadbuster based more on their G1 toys and not as updated as other "Classics-style" toys
G2/IDW-esque Generations Jhiaxus colored like the RiD toy.
AOE Evolution 2-Packs using Energon Grimlock and the DOTM dino Mini-Cons
G1 Strafe box art on the AOE Strafe Evolution 2-Pack to represent the G1 Swoop-esque toy
Walmart getting exclusive AOE redecos of Beast Wars molds from over a decade ago
MP Sunstorm not colored like G1 Sunstorm

Hey, that's a copy-pasta from the AoE thread. [-(

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:35 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.
It's even got RB Heatwave's Energize dual-nozzle cannon.

Another point of weirdness from the new design team, on top of:
Generations Whirl and Roadbuster based more on their G1 toys and not as updated as other "Classics-style" toys
G2/IDW-esque Generations Jhiaxus colored like the RiD toy.
AOE Evolution 2-Packs using Energon Grimlock and the DOTM dino Mini-Cons
G1 Strafe box art on the AOE Strafe Evolution 2-Pack to represent the G1 Swoop-esque toy
Walmart getting exclusive AOE redecos of Beast Wars molds from over a decade ago
MP Sunstorm not colored like G1 Sunstorm

Hey, that's a copy-pasta from the AoE thread.

Nay. It's from the MP Sunstorm thread, but still no less true since the info is still accurate.

News Credits: 1 · by **QBKiller94** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:49 am

mblase75 wrote:Anybody tried to build Autobot X / Autobot Spike out of these things yet? He's always the first thing I think of.

Brilliant! I almost spit my coffee on my keyboard.

I saw these at ToysRUs in Middletown, NY yesterday. Megatron and Bulkhead are pretty cool. Bumblebee is horrible. These are a pass for me, even though I love the Marvel Mashers.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:58 am

As an adult collector I have no interest in these, but the 10-year-old me would have LOVED these.

by **Peridot** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:01 am

Mindmaster wrote: I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

My guess is that he's supposed to represent a non-kiddie, G1 equivalent of Rescue Bots Heatwave.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:12 am

Metro Prime wrote:
Mindmaster wrote: I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

My guess is that he's supposed to represent a non-kiddie, G1 equivalent of Rescue Bots Heatwave.

It's more likely that the new design team members wanted to make a Heatwave Hero Mashers figure, looked for the name in the archives, found the Timelines/SG toy before the Rescue Bots toy, and went with that instead.

Same thing happened with Generations Jhiaxus's orange RiD deco despite the mold clearly being designed to resemble G2/IDW Jhiaxus (they looked in the archives and found the RiD toy first and used that for reference instead of the comics' deco).

After all, this Hero Mashers Heatwave even has the dual-water cannon tool that belongs to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

by **KREOFAN85** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:25 pm

for those who say kre-o fails, are dumb as dirt. ya'll have no idea how many collectors of kre-o continue to buy them. same for construct-bots. over on tfw2005 forums, there are threads for those two type of sublines. i myself love kre-o and contructbots. if people buy them, they sell. and they sell well with fans of these two lines.

i AM tempted to buy a masher figure. never was into the marvel stuff, but this tf **** might be good. i am confused as to why rime comes with an ultra magnus hand. i do hope to see an ultra magnus in the future.

as for those saying dumb down toys are for stupid kids, well, maybe its you who are stupid with a superiority complex.

you know what toyline was great but everyone hated them with a passion, but still gain a huge fanbase of collectors who LOVED the style and posability? ----GI JOE SIGMA 6.

And these are what they remind me of, in style, both transformers and marvel mashers........hasbro...make GI JOE version of these mashers. PLEASE!

by **Peridot** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:14 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:
Mindmaster wrote: I still find it very odd that they used this Heatwave as opposed to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

My guess is that he's supposed to represent a non-kiddie, G1 equivalent of Rescue Bots Heatwave.
It's more likely that the new design team members wanted to make a Heatwave Hero Mashers figure, looked for the name in the archives, found the Timelines/SG toy before the Rescue Bots toy, and went with that instead.

Same thing happened with Generations Jhiaxus's orange RiD deco despite the mold clearly being designed to resemble G2/IDW Jhiaxus (they looked in the archives and found the RiD toy first and used that for reference instead of the comics' deco).

After all, this Hero Mashers Heatwave even has the dual-water cannon tool that belongs to Rescue Bots Heatwave.

It seems like the new design team has been making some weird double homages, like the new Protectobot Groove's deco being based on the G2 version, or the Jhiaxus thing, along with a bunch of other stuff that you posted in the MP Sunstorm thread. I might be giving them more credit than they deserve, then.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:15 am

Metro Prime wrote:It seems like the new design team has been making some weird double homages, like the new Protectobot Groove's deco being based on the G2 version, or the Jhiaxus thing, along with a bunch of other stuff that you posted in the MP Sunstorm thread. I might be giving them more credit than they deserve, then.

G2 Groove was orange and teal, not blue.

They seemed to have based this Groove's deco off of Universe Groove instead.

And I really would give the new team too much credit since, when they admitted to basing Jhiaxus's deco off of the RiD toy because that's what they found first, the whole reason they had to go looking in the archives for a Jhiaxus deco was because they weren't even aware that the Generation 2 comics Jhiaxus deco existed.

The new team is comprised mostly of freshly new people who came from other brands like Star Wars and G.I. Joe, and aren't really that familiar with the Transformers brand's 30 years of history. There are simply a lot of things that they aren't aware of, and thus keep making these kinds of awkward decisions not knowing that the fans are going to be raising a few eyebrows over each of these choices they make.

by **Peridot** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:21 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:It seems like the new design team has been making some weird double homages, like the new Protectobot Groove's deco being based on the G2 version, or the Jhiaxus thing, along with a bunch of other stuff that you posted in the MP Sunstorm thread. I might be giving them more credit than they deserve, then.
G2 Groove was orange and teal, not blue.

They seemed to have based this Groove's deco off of Universe Groove instead.

And I really would give the new team too much credit since, when they admitted to basing Jhiaxus's deco off of the RiD toy because that's what they found first, the whole reason they had to go looking in the archives for a Jhiaxus deco was because they weren't even aware that the Generation 2 comics Jhiaxus deco existed.

The new team is comprised mostly of freshly new people who came from other brands like Star Wars and G.I. Joe, and aren't really that familiar with the Transformers brand's 30 years of history. There are simply a lot of things that they aren't aware of, and thus keep making these kinds of awkward decisions not knowing that the fans are going to be raising a few eyebrows over each of these choices they make.

I did some research. It seems the Jhiaxus we're getting is based on the IDW design, which is actually orange and grey. Then again, I may be reading too far into it and the new design team is just not that knowledgeable when it comes to Transformers. .
Some of them coming from G.I. Joe makes sense, considering we're getting figures like Whirl and Roadbuster who are essentially G1 figures with more posability. I have Whirl in hand right now, and he really does feel like a transforming G.I. Joe vehicle. The decals, the opening cockpit, just everything about it just seems different from the other Generation Voyagers.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:26 am

Metro Prime wrote:I did some research. It seems the Jhiaxus we're getting is based on the IDW design, which is actually orange and grey. Then again, I may be reading too far into it and the new design team is just not that knowledgeable when it comes to Transformers. .

Yes, the Jhiaxus mold is sculpted to take inspiration from the IDW version of the character, but said version still used a deco akin to his G2 self. Red head, even.

The new guys just didn't know at the time.

It's also likely why the Strafe Evolution 2-Pack uses G1 Strafe's art for the Swoop-looking Mini-Con toy.