The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Has anyone heard how they're planning on doing the four CW Autobots, Prowl, Ironhide, Mirage, (I forget who the other is)?

If they're just redecoing Stunticons with new heads, that's going to be a little lame. (look at the new legends Rodiums for example)

And Ironhide was said to be a redeco of a new mold used for First Aid, so its not all just stunticons.

[Mindmaster]

From a user on TFW2005 that was present at the Nuremburg Toy Fair.

First Aid and Streetwise for Combined Wars were also there.
First Aid looks like he's going to get an Ironhide repaint, while Streetwise reminded me a lot on Beast Hunters Prowl.

First Aid was an entirely new mold, I think. He was glued to the shelf

[Dr. Caelus]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

[Moosey]

I thought that's what Harley Quinn was.

Well, that without the insufferable "LOL RANDOM FTW" humor.

I could go on a rant of my own about modern Harley Quinn.

Even about her totally needed reimagined look?





Just messing, its terrible.

Or how she has no qualifications to be on the Suicide Squad except to be DC Deadpool.

Shaddup you two. Modern Harley is freakin great!!!! There's a reason that she's DC's best selling book currently.

[Moosey]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

Starscream: I'm going to overthrow you and become the leader of the Decepticons! Your doom has arrived, Megatron!!!

Megatron: *combines*

Starscream: You've got to be kidding me..........

[Shuttershock]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

Starscream: I'm going to overthrow you and become the leader of the Decepticons! Your doom has arrived, Megatron!!!

Megatron: *combines*

Starscream: You've got to be kidding me..........

Starscream could probably counter with his own, given all the Aerialbots and all the different incarnations he's had.

GRAND EMPEROR HELLSCREAM!

[shajaki]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

that has got to be the coolest notion ive heard yet!

[shajaki]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

that has got to be the coolest notion ive heard yet!

[Peridot]

I thought that's what Harley Quinn was.

Well, that without the insufferable "LOL RANDOM FTW" humor.

I could go on a rant of my own about modern Harley Quinn.

Even about her totally needed reimagined look?





Just messing, its terrible.

Or how she has no qualifications to be on the Suicide Squad except to be DC Deadpool.

Shaddup you two. Modern Harley is freakin great!!!! There's a reason that she's DC's best selling book currently.

Her costume is still terrible, though.

[Shuttershock]

I thought that's what Harley Quinn was.

Well, that without the insufferable "LOL RANDOM FTW" humor.

I could go on a rant of my own about modern Harley Quinn.

Even about her totally needed reimagined look?





Just messing, its terrible.

Or how she has no qualifications to be on the Suicide Squad except to be DC Deadpool.

Shaddup you two. Modern Harley is freakin great!!!! There's a reason that she's DC's best selling book currently.

Her costume is still terrible, though.

And are we really led to believe that the chemical bath gave her evenly split two-tone hair? Who's the joker here?

[Peridot]

I thought that's what Harley Quinn was.

Well, that without the insufferable "LOL RANDOM FTW" humor.

I could go on a rant of my own about modern Harley Quinn.

Even about her totally needed reimagined look?





Just messing, its terrible.

Or how she has no qualifications to be on the Suicide Squad except to be DC Deadpool.

Shaddup you two. Modern Harley is freakin great!!!! There's a reason that she's DC's best selling book currently.

Her costume is still terrible, though.

And are we really led to believe that the chemical bath gave her evenly split two-tone hair? Who's the joker here?

It also gave her the ability to contort unnaturally for the sake of gratuitous T&A and also somehow fit into that terrible hypersexualized "outfit".

[Moosey]

Y'know what? Let's all agree to disagree. This thread is meant to be about combiner wars, not whether or not Harley Quinn is cool or not. I have my opinion and you guys have yours. I really don't want to draw out a huge argument. K?

[Mindmaster]

Y'know what? Let's all agree to disagree. This thread is meant to be about combiner wars, not whether or not Harley Quinn is cool or not. I have my opinion and you guys have yours. I really don't want to draw out a huge argument. K?

This.

Let's please get back on topic. We don't want threads derailing and all.

[peaces]

yes, i don't want to hear about harley and definitely don't want to hear feminism crap.

[Sabrblade]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

that has got to be the coolest notion ive heard yet!

Seeker combiners from Aerialbot molds!

Starscream gestalt (G1)
Body: Machine Wars Starscream
Limb 1: G1 Starscream
Limb 2: G2 Starscream
Limb 3: e-HOBBY Black Starscream
Limb 4: Masterpiece MP-3 Starscream (original teal deco)
Legends: Waspinator

Starscream gestalt (non-G1)
Body: Movie Starscream
Limb 1: Armada Starscream
Limb 2: Energon Starscream
Limb 3: Shattered Glass Starscream
Limb 4: Prime Starscream
Legends: BWII Starscream

Thundercracker gestalt
Body: Armada Thundercracker
Limb 1: Action Master/Shattered Glass Thundercracker
Limb 2: Machine Wars Thundercracker
Limb 3: Cybertron Thundercracker
Limb 4: G1 Thundercracker
Legends: Action Master Thundercracker's Exo-Suit jet

Skywarp gestalt
Body: Armada Skywarp
Limb 1: Machine Wars Skywarp
Limb 2: Cybertron Skywarp
Limb 3: Alternity Skywarp
Limb 4: Hellwarp (G1 colors but with Hellwarp name for funsies)
Legends: BWII Maximal Skywarp

Thrust gestalt
Body: G1 Thrust
Limb 1: Armada Thrust
Limb 2: BWII Thrust
Limb 3: ROTF Crash Landing Attack Thrust
Limb 4: Armada Powerlinx Thrust
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Thrust

Dirge gestalt
Body: G1 Dirge
Limb 1: ROTF Dirge
Limb 2: Animated Dirge
Limb 3: Shattered Glass Dirge
Limb 4: BotCon 2005 Descent Into Evil Dirge
Legends: BWII Dirge

Ramjet gestalt
Body: Universe Ramjet
Limb 1: G2 Ramjet
Limb 2: Armada Mini-Con Ramjet
Limb 3: Energon Mini-Con Ramjet
Limb 4: G1 Ramjet
Legends: Cybertron Legends Ramjet

Sunstorm gestalt
Body: G1 Sunstorm (carrot)
Limb 1: G1 Sunstorm (gold)
Limb 2: G1 Sunstorm (tangerine)
Limb 3: G1 Sunstorm (cheddar)
Limb 4: G1 Sunstorm (lemon)
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Sunstorm

[Shuttershock]

Y'know what? Let's all agree to disagree. This thread is meant to be about combiner wars, not whether or not Harley Quinn is cool or not. I have my opinion and you guys have yours. I really don't want to draw out a huge argument. K?

K. That was a minor tangent that went on too long anyway.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Sunstorm gestalt
Body: G1 Sunstorm (carrot)
Limb 1: G1 Sunstorm (gold)
Limb 2: G1 Sunstorm (tangerine)
Limb 3: G1 Sunstorm (cheddar)
Limb 4: G1 Sunstorm (lemon)
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Sunstorm

Someone is having fun there

[Sabrblade]

Sunstorm gestalt
Body: G1 Sunstorm (carrot)
Limb 1: G1 Sunstorm (gold)
Limb 2: G1 Sunstorm (tangerine)
Limb 3: G1 Sunstorm (cheddar)
Limb 4: G1 Sunstorm (lemon)
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Sunstorm

Someone is having fun there

Well, there aren't that many uniquely-colored Sunstorms out there to choose from (most just go with a deco based on some version of G1 Sunstorm), while there are plenty of inconsistent shades of yellow/orange that have been used for G1 Sunstorm over the years.

[Moosey]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

that has got to be the coolest notion ive heard yet!

Seeker combiners from Aerialbot molds!

Starscream gestalt (G1)
Body: Machine Wars Starscream
Limb 1: G1 Starscream
Limb 2: G2 Starscream
Limb 3: e-HOBBY Black Starscream
Limb 4: Masterpiece MP-3 Starscream (original teal deco)
Legends: Waspinator

Starscream gestalt (non-G1)
Body: Movie Starscream
Limb 1: Armada Starscream
Limb 2: Energon Starscream
Limb 3: Movie Starscream
Limb 4: Prime Starscream
Legends: BWII Starscream

Thundercracker gestalt
Body: Armada Thundercracker
Limb 1: Action Master/Shattered Glass Thundercracker
Limb 2: Machine Wars Thundercracker
Limb 3: Cybertron Thundercracker
Limb 4: G1 Thundercracker
Legends: Action Master Thundercracker's Exo-Suit jet

Skywarp gestalt
Body: Armada Skywarp
Limb 1: Machine Wars Skywarp
Limb 2: Cybertron Skywarp
Limb 3: Alternity Skywarp
Limb 4: Hellwarp (G1 colors but with Hellwarp name for funsies)
Legends: BWII Maximal Skywarp

Thrust gestalt
Body: G1 Thrust
Limb 1: Armada Thrust
Limb 2: BWII Thrust
Limb 3: ROTF Crash Landing Attack Thrust
Limb 4: Armada Powerlinx Thrust
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Thrust

Dirge gestalt
Body: G1 Dirge
Limb 1: ROTF Dirge
Limb 2: Animated Dirge
Limb 3: Shattered Glass Dirge
Limb 4: BotCon 2005 Descent Into Evil Dirge
Legends: BWII Dirge

Ramjet gestalt
Body: Universe Ramjet
Limb 1: G2 Ramjet
Limb 2: Armada Mini-Con Ramjet
Limb 3: Energon Mini-Con Ramjet
Limb 4: G1 Ramjet
Legends: Cybertron Legends Ramjet

Sunstorm gestalt
Body: G1 Sunstorm (carrot)
Limb 1: G1 Sunstorm (gold)
Limb 2: G1 Sunstorm (tangerine)
Limb 3: G1 Sunstorm (cheddar)
Limb 4: G1 Sunstorm (lemon)
Legends: Cybertron Mini-Con Sunstorm

this is so great!!!! The combiners should be able to combine into an even bigger combiner. Now THAT would be impressive.

[Dr. Caelus]

Right, so here's another preposterous Combiner Wars wish list:

CW Silverbolt => IDW Stealth Megatron (seen the digibash online, looked nice)
CW Skydive => Machine Wars Megatron
CW Deadend => G2 "Go-bots" Megatron
CW Offroad => Dark of the Moon Megatron
CW Alpha Bravo => Shattered Glass Galvatron
CW Groove = Cy-Kill

Combined form would be Megalomaniatron?

that has got to be the coolest notion ive heard yet!

Thanks. Really, I just want to see it happen in fiction - a combiner made of all the same character from different universes, because I'd like to see how the narrative is dealt with. Doesn't have to be Megatron - Starscream would be good too.

Tangentially related note, I had fun this afternoon because a restaurant we go to has an 'icebreaker' game on the tables with tons of inane questions, and my wife and I always each pick a 'character' and then try to use the questions to figure out who we are - I picked Menasor.

[RiddlerJ]

I still want a Go-Bots combiner.

Leader 1 - Air Raid
Baron Von Joy - Dead End
Van Guard - Offroad
Royal T - Fireflight
Stacks - Optimus Prime (keep the head folded in)
Turbo - Blackjack

Cy-Kill - Groove
Crasher - Drag Strip
Cop-Tur - Alpha Bravo
Fitor - Fireflight
Spoiler - Breakdown
Crain Brain - Hot Spot (may need a crane arm instead of a ladder)

[Peridot]

All that talk about Harley Quinn just gave me an idea.
DC COMICS COMBINER. Think about it:
Torso- Superman
Left Arm- Martian Manhunter
Right Arm- Batman
Left Leg- Wonder Woman
Right Leg- The Flash
And Aquaman is the Legends figure.

[Dr. Caelus]

Cy-Kill - Groove
Crasher - Drag Strip
Cop-Tur - Alpha Bravo
Fitor - Fireflight
Spoiler - Breakdown
Crain Brain - Hot Spot (may need a crane arm instead of a ladder)

I remain disappointed at the lack of a Cy-Kill remold from Generations Wreck-Gar, but I'm holding out hope for a Generations Whirl remold as Cop-Tur. He's got the clamps and everything. THE CLAMPS!!!

[Sabrblade]

For those wondering why neither Hasbro, Takara, nor the Club has done GoBot redecos beyond Movie Fracture and BotCon 2007 Bug Bite, it's because they really sorta can't. Hanna-Barbera and Bandai own the GoBots characters and likenesses, preventing there from being a Transformers toy done up in the colors of a GoBot and with the name and identity of said GoBot its deco is homaging.

When e-HOBBY did their six-pack Minibot G1 GoBots redeco set, they got around the legal trouble by using prototype Transformers decos that didn't resemble any of the GoBot decos, and by not even giving the six of them names or identities. The toys were all nameless and bio-less.

BotCon 2007 Bug Bite had its deco based on the nameless e-HOBBY toy, and while Club fiction has established him as officially being the GoBot Renegade of the same name, his bio did not directly identify him as such, instead remaining ambiguous about his true nature, writing him as an enigma among his peers:

Bugbite is a Decepticon shrouded in mystery. Many serving under Bludgeon are unsure as to why he gained such favor. commander of one of the finest ships within Bludgeon's army, Bugbite enjoys unusual freedom of action, often disappearing for months at a time with his eclectic crew of ne'er-do-wells on missions of which none of them ever speak. Many under his command have abandoned partners and friends without a word leading many to suspect even greater duplicity than is typical among the Decepticons.

And Movie Fracture was a very borderline case that played at least a part in TF companies' current reluctance to do any more direct GoBot homages. That figure was intended to be the GoBot Crasher, but couldn't be due to Crasher's character and likeness being owned by Hanna-Barbera and Bandai, and so became the different character of Fracture. But, its deco was still very much that of Crasher, making it walk the thin line of what TF companies could and could not do. Since then, there haven't been any more direct GoBot deco homages made, with any others being only "loose" or "indirect" homages in toys like ROTF Deadlift. But Fracture wasn't exactly an example of something that all parties felt "okay" with.

So if we ever want something like an official Transformers Cy-Kill toy, it'd either have to be in some deco that doesn't remotely resemble that of Cy-Kill, or it would have to be just a generic red and blue deco figure that isn't named "Cy-Kill", and either case's bio wouldn't be allowed to directly identify him as the GoBots Cy-Kill character. An official Transformers Cy-Kill toy that's colored like Cy-Kill, named "Cy-Kill", and identified as the GoBots Cy-Kill character cannot legally happen.

Same goes for all other GoBots.

[peaces]

hasbro recently said they were going to make go-bots movies and toys. will that change anything?