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[jlogano20]

cant wait for the deluxe nascars (im guessing deluxe)
too bad it missing the guns and stuff but it is a legends now anyone see mirage in the nascar though MB doesnt care about g1 at all

[LiKwid]

Nice! but gonna pass on all Bayformers this year, unless Shockwave turns out to be badass or something.

Agreed. I'm only eyeballin a few select bots this year. The wreckers( if their in deluxe forom or higher) Shockwave and maybe that megatron. Other than that Fansproject is gonna bank on me this year..

[Malevolus]

Not to nitpick, but it's incorrect to say "a NASCAR" or "the NASCAR" when referring to a vehicle. NASCAR is an acronym that stands for "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing." So it's actually correct to say "a NASCAR car."

[OlivusPrime]

now anyone see mirage in the nascar though MB doesnt care about g1 at all

Good point, I can see a little Mirage in the design. Mirage would be awesome, but like you say, Michael doesn't particularly focus on G1. Makes me wonder whether we'll get other G1 Autobot cars as the NASCAR cars (eg Wheeljack, Smokescreen etc). Is it just me or is this Legend Wrecker different in colouration to any of the rally cars on set? Maybe it's just the lack of weapons/metal stuff/awesomeness.

Anyway, not too fond on the NASCAR bot, will probably be better as a Deluxe. The SUV looks great though (maybe it's one of the "Dreads" seen in filming?).

EDIT - My mistake, the car is the same.

[Mindmaster]

Well, for one, this kinda proves that the now-known "Wreckers" are indeed Autobots. As for the Decepti-SUV... either Stockade reborn or Soundwave. And what a coin-key-dink, they both start with an S!

[jlogano20]

Not to nitpick, but it's incorrect to say "a NASCAR" or "the NASCAR" when referring to a vehicle. NASCAR is an acronym that stands for "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing." So it's actually correct to say "a NASCAR car."

i know im a huge nascar fan but its easier to say nascar than nascar car

[Noideaforaname]

Interesting how the got the "real" logos on the NASCAR... car.

The SUV Con has a Blackout/Grindor vibe to it. I wonder if any/all other SUV Cons will just be duplicates or if they'll each get unique robot modes. It'd be interesting to see the same vehicle transform in totally different ways.

[griftimus prime]

shelf warmers

[Bounti76]

Okay...gotta say this, and I'm gonna be polite about it, because there's no need to be negative about it. G1 is over. The cartoon ended in the late 80s. The toyline ended 20 or more years ago. I grew up with the cartoon and the toys and the comic books, too. I still have several G1 toys and even the first 40 or so issues of the comic book. I got a few seasons of the cartoon on DVD, and frankly, I don't see how it appeals to anyone but kids now, but I understand how it's a part of many Seibertronians childhoods, as it is mine.

But I don't quite understand absolute G1 purists. Sure, Devastator isn't green and purple and now looks like he's made up of actual construction vehicles instead of random blocks of green metal. Okay, Elita-1 is a purple motorcycle rather than a pink boat-thing. Soundwave turns into a futuristic satellite rather than a small, anachronistic blue tape deck with a cannon on his shoulder and turns into a 20 foot tall robot. It's okay! Things don't need to be exactly like the G1 cartoon series to be good.

Personally, I find the movieverse aesthetic really great. It's nice to see vehicles that don't change size and robot modes that actually look robotic and alien, or like they were actually formed from the parts of their alternate mode. That's what got me interested in the franchise again as an adult. It was a world I enjoyed as a kid, re-imagined as a more realistic looking movie and toys. So what if Ironhide isn't red? Would purists rather see him as a red minivan like he was in G1? What kid nowdays is gonna root for a minivan? Their personalities are still fairly similar (save for Ratchet's), their functions (Ironhide as field general/weapons specialist, Ratchet as medic, Starscream as groveling sycophant, Megatron as a calculating tyrant) are still the same. Just because they have a different, MORE REALISTIC, vehicle/alternate mode and are a different color than their counterparts of more than two decades ago, it doesn't make them horrible.

[Optimum Supreme]

I always thought of Ironhide as a full sized van. If Ironhide's a rockin, don't come a knockin.