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Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:55 pm

can people from china be sues?

also cliffjumper would be a complete re-shell with a new head. I'd like to see it but I'd be suprised if they did it.

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:00 pm

Man, all this third-party awesomeness is just killing me. A lot of this stuff makes Hasbro look weak, and they've been doing great lately. (In my book, anyway.)

News Credits: 2 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:27 pm

nobody1898 wrote:can people from china be sued?

Yes they can. It will be very interesting to see if VW allows this to continue. If they won't let a big company like Hasbro with tons of money to roll with an actual VW vehicle, a little company like iGear doesn't stand a chance.

News Credits: 767 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:34 pm

First-Aid wrote:
nobody1898 wrote:can people from china be sued?

Yes they can. It will be very interesting to see if VW allows this to continue. If they won't let a big company like Hasbro with tons of money to roll with an actual VW vehicle, a little company like iGear doesn't stand a chance.

I believe it depends if this toy comes with a gun or not. since, if I recall correctly, VW was OK with Hasbro making an Alt Bumblebee based of the New Beetle as long as it has no gun, it was Porsche who absolutely didn't want to be associated with Transformers.

News Credits: 4 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:59 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
nobody1898 wrote:can people from china be sued?

Yes they can. It will be very interesting to see if VW allows this to continue. If they won't let a big company like Hasbro with tons of money to roll with an actual VW vehicle, a little company like iGear doesn't stand a chance.

I believe it depends if this toy comes with a gun or not. since, if I recall correctly, VW was OK with Hasbro making an Alt Bumblebee based of the New Beetle as long as it has no gun, it was Porsche who absolutely didn't want to be associated with Transformers.

I wouldn't be so sure.
Car companies are notoriously protective of their copyrights and trademarks. This could be seen as a major violation of that if the lawyers decide that the toy looks close enough to the vehicle to warrant a court case.

Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:39 pm

This kitbash came to mind immediately after seeing these pics.
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36845

Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:54 pm

Looks great! But i probably wont get it a little too pricey for me at the moment.

Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:35 pm

Looks good but i'm still waiting for that Sharkticon! That's the figure fans really need. It's pretty expensive for many to buy on ebay and hard to find complete.

Maybe this will see a release 2 years from now if at all. So i won't hold my breath or even care.

News Credits: 5749 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:11 pm

iGear just updated their Facebook page with an image of the bot mode.

News Credits: 33 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:14 pm

Dead Metal wrote:I believe it depends if this toy comes with a gun or not. since, if I recall correctly, VW was OK with Hasbro making an Alt Bumblebee based of the New Beetle as long as it has no gun, it was Porsche who absolutely didn't want to be associated with Transformers.

It won't matter at all any more, as Porsche and Volkswagen have merged as of some time this year (if my memory serves me correctly)

On a side note - I don't see the point of this. When G1 Bumblebee was actually first made, the Beetle was one of the most popular cars in the world, and a fairly common sight (and as a kid I knew what a Lancia Stratos, Contach, Corvette, DatsunZX as well, since they were all still pretty cool cars at the time). I like to see Transformers "evolve" as new cars come into fashion, its kinda neat to see design fads in cars change over time, especially when its through a hobby like toy collecting.

Further note - the old Beatles actually have the same mount as a Porsche911, making an engine swap much easier than it seems, although it will stick out the back somewhat (engines sticking out of cars only adds to the cool anyways)

Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:55 pm

Well the bot mode is a fail. I love 3rd party stuff but not with legends articulation. I expect high detail, articulation, and a collectors focus if I'm going to shell out 3rd party dollars.

News Credits: 5749 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:59 pm

nobody1898 wrote:Well the bot mode is a fail. I love 3rd party stuff but not with legends articulation. I expect high detail, articulation, and a collectors focus if I'm going to shell out 3rd party dollars.

Agreed. I was in until I saw the bot mode. Unless the final product is a lot better I'll be passing on this.

Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:11 pm

Wow how can the car look so good and the robot look so crappy ??? Ill pass because the arms really suck. And that Binaltech version should not have been cancelled. Volkswagon not wanting to be associated with war ??? What BS !!! What P***ys !!!

Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:36 am

WOW!...........now i REALLY don't care. FAIL

Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:37 am

Rated X wrote:Wow how can the car look so good and the robot look so crappy ??? Ill pass because the arms really suck. And that Binaltech version should not have been cancelled. Volkswagon not wanting to be associated with war ??? What BS !!! What P***ys !!!

They're trying to give germany a clean new slate free of the past... don't want a poor jewish kid to see the beetle, and then transform it, and then see the gun in his hand, and tear up.... and have a wierd memory that...is more of a day dream nightmare about a big robot beetle running around commiting genocide, riiigghhhttt?

News Credits: 402 · Updated Oct 21, 2022

El Duque wrote:iGear just updated their Facebook page with an image of the bot mode.

Looks like they re-skinned the Universe Legends Class Bumblebee.

Easy pass, thanks for playing.

News Credits: 17 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:58 am

Amelie wrote:I don't see the point of this. I like to see Transformers "evolve" as new cars come into fashion.

Its probably just to please all the "GEEWUNERS" out there. :roll:

News Credits: 767 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:11 am

I-Gear have updated their Facebook page again, they added 5 new images to their "New WIP small stuff" album. These updates show the robot-mode of their new Bumblebee figure, which is a a "re-shell" of Universe 2.0 Legends Class Bumblebee with VW Käfer car parts.
We have mirrored one image, if you wish to see the rest just click here.

And as a Comparison, the original Universe 2.0 Legends Class Bumblebee:

News Credits: 767 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:13 am

This sucks.

News Credits: 2 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:56 am

easy pass for me, why even bother with such a weak mold?

News Credits: 3 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:06 am

This is going to flop. I wouldn't spend a dime on it.

This is less than meets the eye or more crap than meets the eye, I don't know what to choose from.

News Credits: 5749 · Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:14 am

Since I don't collect Legends figures I didn't even realize it was basically a reskin on an existing BB, that sucks.

Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:44 am

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Rated X wrote:Wow how can the car look so good and the robot look so crappy ??? Ill pass because the arms really suck. And that Binaltech version should not have been cancelled. Volkswagon not wanting to be associated with war ??? What BS !!! What P***ys !!!

They're trying to give germany a clean new slate free of the past... don't want a poor jewish kid to see the beetle, and then transform it, and then see the gun in his hand, and tear up.... and have a wierd memory that...is more of a day dream nightmare about a big robot beetle running around commiting genocide, riiigghhhttt?

Yeah I know, horrors !!! After all these WW2 vechicles somebody might compare Good ol Bumblebee to Hitler. Forget about Lugnut looking like the Enola Gay. Forget that Highbrow looks like the P-38 Lightning that won the battle of Midway. Forget Divebomb looks like the Red Baron. Lets pick on poor little Bumblebee instead because he is such a war-monger :lol: