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[Wigglez]

Okay. I watched the show when it was on tv years ago. But I've just recently watched it again since then and I forgot how good that show was. Especially when I didn't know who Optimus Prime was when the show was on tv. I was young and not old enough to know about G1 at the time. But I do know who OP is by now and the way season 3 was amazing. The whole show was great. I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible. But other than that, the show was so good. I wish that there were more seasons to along with the show. I know there's Beast Machines but I didn't really like that show.

[BeastProwl]

once you get used to the crazy art styling of Beast Machines, it turns out to be very ingaging,plus they eventually stop the "I Am transformed" nonsence, and The story is very dark and compelling, so I say give it a shot. I hated it at first, but it eventually came to be one of my personal favorites.

[Sabrblade]

I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.

Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".

[Rodimus Prime]

Since we're on TF religion. Who would be the Jim Jones of the TF Universe? (Yes, I realize some of you are too young to get this. Google "Jonestown.") And don't drink the tainted Energon!

[Wigglez]

I get the fact thet they have their religions. What I'm saying is that megatron reading out of the autobot bible was too religious. Especially for a kids show that not all the watchers are going to follow the first testimate (or however it's spelled. sorry towards who follow it.) Because that seemed pretty close to it. And I know BW went into BM, but I think they should do a prequal series. There is the Timelines comic and that Botcon special "Theft of the Golden Disk," But I'm talking about before that, writen by the show writers. IMO, that'd be sweet. I just feel BW was a bit too short for how seasons 2 and 3 got way better than season 1 and then it just ends.

[Sabrblade]

I get the fact thet they have their religions. What I'm saying is that megatron reading out of the autobot bible was too religious.

Only the "good parts", as he called them. Remember, he ignored the other stuff in it that didn't glorify himself (or rather, didn't glorify the Megatron of myth).

Especially for a kids show that not all the watchers are going to follow the first testimate (or however it's spelled. sorry towards who follow it.) Because that seemed pretty close to it.

So what if the kids wouldn't get a deeper stuff? To them, they'd just see it as some fancy talk and would focus more the robots fighting each other with giant spaceships. The kids don't have to get, but that doesn't mean they can't leave it in for the older audiences who watched it to get.

And I know BW went into BM, but I think they should do a prequal series. There is the Timelines comic and that Botcon special "Theft of the Golden Disk," But I'm talking about before that, writen by the show writers. IMO, that'd be sweet.

Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio were the story consultants for "Dawn of Future's Past".

I just feel BW was a bit too short for how seasons 2 and 3 got way better than season 1 and then it just ends.

I don't follow. 52 episodes is too short? It "just ends"? The ending came at its appropriate time. All episodes leading up to it foreshadowed its approach. Line from Optimus indicated that the Beast Wars had to be won. And soon. Megatron's actions got so intense with the fabric of time that he had to be stopped once and for all. They couldn't drag it out any longer, unless you squeeze in some unimportant fillers like what season 1 had.

[Wigglez]

I don't know. IMO, what made season 1 good and got me hooked was the "alien" stuff. I know they involved that one ship that transported Tigertron and Air Razor and then came back to bring in Tigerhawk. I think episodes battling the aliens would of been cool. And what I mean by "just ending" was that season 1 was good. Season 2 was way better and then season 3 was crazy awesome. I'm aware that they reached the end by capturing Megatron before he tried to kill Optimus Prime a second time. But the way the show was getting better and better, reached and ending when it was so good. I just feel that it should've been longer based on how good the show was. And BM had different writers so it's kind of "blah/what ever."

[Sabrblade]

I don't know. IMO, what made season 1 good and got me hooked was the "alien" stuff. I know they involved that one ship that transported Tigertron and Air Razor and then came back to bring in Tigerhawk. I think episodes battling the aliens would of been cool. And what I mean by "just ending" was that season 1 was good. Season 2 was way better and then season 3 was crazy awesome. I'm aware that they reached the end by capturing Megatron before he tried to kill Optimus Prime a second time. But the way the show was getting better and better, reached and ending when it was so good. I just feel that it should've been longer based on how good the show was. And BM had different writers so it's kind of "blah/what ever."

Even then, the Vok have some religious context to themselves, due to their connection to The One.

Not to mention the budget constraints limited season 2 and 3 to 13 episodes each instead of 26. Beast Wars a very expensive show to be made at the time.

[SlyTF1]

I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.

Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".

That's the best damn part of the entire TF universe IMO.

[Sabrblade]

I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.

Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".

That's the best damn part of the entire TF universe IMO.

One of, at least. I like it too.