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[Sabrblade]

TFP Voyager Breakdown was revealed by Takara 1st, and not Hasbro.

That was a dual Hasbro/Takara panel. Both companies were present for that convention.

[Hypershock]

swoop's probably just gonna be a repaint of dreadwing or starscream :/

[gavinfuzzy]

TFP Voyager Breakdown was revealed by Takara 1st, and not Hasbro.

That was a dual Hasbro/Takara panel. Both companies were present for that convention.

Yes, both companies were present, but it was revealed in the Takara panel, as part of the AM line, but not showed in subsequent hasbro presentations. Well, takara does create most of the molds anyways. But I still doubt it's the Dinobot swoop. More like Skyquake-repaint-swoop.

[Sabrblade]

TFP Voyager Breakdown was revealed by Takara 1st, and not Hasbro.

That was a dual Hasbro/Takara panel. Both companies were present for that convention.

Yes, both companies were present, but it was revealed in the Takara panel, as part of the AM line, but not showed in subsequent hasbro presentations. Well, takara does create most of the molds anyways.

It was still the Hasbro version of the prototype, as, like you said, Takara makes the molds.

But I still doubt it's the Dinobot swoop. More like Skyquake-repaint-swoop.

It'll probably be like a "what if" body, since it'll be an Aligned Swoop toy. Or, then again, since Japan isn't getting the video games, it'll be a Japanese Prime coninuity version of Aligned Swoop, who is a jet instead of a dino.

[Dead Metal]

TFP Voyager Breakdown was revealed by Takara 1st, and not Hasbro.

That was a dual Hasbro/Takara panel. Both companies were present for that convention.

Yes, both companies were present, but it was revealed in the Takara panel, as part of the AM line, but not showed in subsequent hasbro presentations. Well, takara does create most of the molds anyways.

It was still the Hasbro version of the prototype, as, like you said, Takara makes the molds.

But I still doubt it's the Dinobot swoop. More like Skyquake-repaint-swoop.

It'll probably be like a "what if" body, since it'll be an Aligned Swoop toy. Or, then again, since Japan isn't getting the video games, it'll be a Japanese Prime coninuity version of Aligned Swoop, who is a jet instead of a dino.

Takara has revealed plenty of figures before Hasbro, like for instance Airachnid and PRID Voyager Bulkhead.

[Sabrblade]

Takara has revealed plenty of figures before Hasbro, like for instance Airachnid and PRID Voyager Bulkhead.

When did they reveal Bulkhead first?

And the only pics we've seen of Airachnid have been of the Hasbro version in scans of a Chinese magazine.

[Dead Metal]

Takara has revealed plenty of figures before Hasbro, like for instance Airachnid and PRID Voyager Bulkhead.

When did they reveal Bulkhead first?

And the only pics we've seen of Airachnid have been of the Hasbro version in scans of a Chinese magazine.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... nid/23767/
It's just concept art from the show, but we heard of the existence of these by Takara first. And Swoop is a likely repeat.

There are even older cases than these, like Universe Ratchet, and Dinobot.

[Sabrblade]

Takara has revealed plenty of figures before Hasbro, like for instance Airachnid and PRID Voyager Bulkhead.

When did they reveal Bulkhead first?

And the only pics we've seen of Airachnid have been of the Hasbro version in scans of a Chinese magazine.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... nid/23767/
It's just concept art from the show, but we heard of the existence of these by Takara first. And Swoop is a likely repeat.

There are even older cases than these, like Universe Ratchet, and Dinobot.

Okay, I'll concede on new molds being announced by Takara. You got me on that. Though, it's lately been the Hasbro versions that have been revealed (as in "seen") first.

So, it could be a new mold, yes. Though, if it is, we'll probably see Hasbro's version before we see Takara's.

[kirbenvost]

Swoop, eh... interesting news, hopefully it'll be a new mold!

[Dead Metal]

Takara has revealed plenty of figures before Hasbro, like for instance Airachnid and PRID Voyager Bulkhead.

When did they reveal Bulkhead first?

And the only pics we've seen of Airachnid have been of the Hasbro version in scans of a Chinese magazine.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... nid/23767/
It's just concept art from the show, but we heard of the existence of these by Takara first. And Swoop is a likely repeat.

There are even older cases than these, like Universe Ratchet, and Dinobot.

Okay, I'll concede on new molds being announced by Takara. You got me on that. Though, it's lately been the Hasbro versions that have been revealed (as in "seen") first.

So, it could be a new mold, yes. Though, if it is, we'll probably see Hasbro's version before we see Takara's.

Irrelevant, fact is Takara often announces stuff before Hasbro does, even brandnew molds. That was the whole point behind this, that the possibility of this being a new mold is there.