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[Sabrblade]

Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

[JelZe GoldRabbit]

Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

That's why I keep WFC and Prime separated by applying the concept of Time Streams. Same Universal Stream =/= Same Character.

[orangeitis]

Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.

Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.

[Sabrblade]

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.

Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.

What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity.

The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.

[Sodan-1]

That new Bumblebee looks crap in those colours, yet it still gets two to a case while the only new figure gets one. Not sure why the case needs Cliffjumper either. I hope I can find Airachnid.

REVISION: Airachnid's not actually that great, but she'll do.

[orangeitis]

What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity.

Because one Hasbro representative might not know a thing about how universes, continuities, and universal streams work?

We need more solid ground to go by than that. I'm sorry, but we still need some clarification on the matter.

The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.

It's not the same simply because Beast Wars/Machines had aspects of both the G1 cartoon and the comics. Not only that, but Beast Wars was done by primitive CGI. We don't have that excuse now.

Not to mention that Beast Wars had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place from G1(from Autobot/Decepticon to Maximal/Predicon), and Beast Machines had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place from Beast Wars(namely, technorganic shiz). Once there is fiction that explains how WFC/FoC Cybertron got invaded by the nose-snatchers, there's no need to jump to any conclusions.

[Va'al]

Nah, Airachnid is a serious pass for me.

[JelZe GoldRabbit]

Nah, Airachnid is a serious pass for me.

More for me to grab then. Dead End is also a must-get, like all things Wheeljack.

[DISCHARGE]

5 dollar foot long



All she's missing is a Subway logo behind her?

[Sabrblade]

Because one Hasbro representative might not know a thing about how universes, continuities, and universal streams work?

We need more solid ground to go by than that. I'm sorry, but we still need some clarification on the matter.

Um, Aaron Archer is Vice President of Intellectual Property Development at Hasbro. He's the man responsible for keeping all the continuities stable and in order, and the one (along with Rik Alvarez) who's completely developed the entire history of the Aligned continuity, from it's ancient past of WFC and the novels, to its present day of TF: Prime, and well beyond into whatever its future may be. He's well above being "one Hasbro representative".

It's not the same simply because Beast Machines had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place(namely, technorganic shiz). Once there is fiction that explains how WFC/FoC Cybertron got invaded by the nose-snatchers, there's no need to jump to any conclusions.

Not everything between the two looks complete different.